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My only sad thought is that i didnt see any beer bottles actually hit the 24 car.. It woulda been nice to see just one land squarely on the roof or something.. i woulda bailed the guy out & paid his fine for that! :tongue:
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I dont agree with the finishing of a race on a yellow flag.. kinda lame. But i geuss its fine for now because Jr placed 5th instead of running out of gas and going back to 30+. Oh well.. good race.
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Here's a pretty good article that I found online this morning mentioning the very thing that happened to my daughter. I hope that some of you with kids or soon to be proud poppa of twins never experience watching your child in tears after being hit on the head with a beer can by an idiot like I did and then have to hear the drunk azz point to his #3 shirt and yell obscenities to an 8 year old.
Here's the solution. Since a MINORITY of fans cannot act responsibly and find this funny. The $5.29 six packs of Budweiser will have to stay back with the car in the parking lot. Then you can go into the track and now pay $5.00 for a 20oz draft of Budweiser in a plastic cup. Not every can that was thrown made it out on the track. I'm sure that several fans were innocently hit. Sorry about the rant. But reading intelligent people on this site that I've enjoyed reading their posts in the past, I find no humor in a potentially deadly act as this funny. http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/opin...wer/index.html |
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Well, I must say, the Earnhardt fans that I've met/seen don't strike me as intelligent folks. The funniest part is, when NASCAR says they can no longer bring cans or bottles into the stands, do you honestly expect them to be smart enough to figure out that they screwed themselves. A result of their own classless and ridiculous actions? No. That'll probably be Gordon's fault, or Rick Hendrick's fault. After all, when the ounces printed on your Bud can are directly proportional to your I.Q. you get statements like..."Gordon's gay, and he sucks as a race car driver." That's why he's #6 on the all-time win list, and married to yet another stunning woman.
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Jeffy will never be as well liked as guys with "0" championships like Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, and Ricky Rudd. He and his car owner have history and problems that make them unattractive to the knowledgeable fan. :tongue:
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If they ban beer cans from coolers being brought in and you can only buy beer in cups, then they better ban ALL water bottles from being brought in also, and plastic bottles of water being sold at the concession stand, because that's what they'll move onto next. I saw it happen at an Ozzfest I went to about 8 years ago. People were heaving hundreds of those things into the crowd and some were even pissing in the water bottles and tossing them. I never got hit but I was constantly looking in back of me because they were being heaved from up on a hilly grass area. Tons of people were getting pelted.
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As for the containers. It will end up being ALL containers banned if this keeps up. That includes beer, pop, water, and the kiddies Kool-Aide. I have brought in water and even a couple of beers to the track in the past and even with my least favorite driver winning I was never temptd to through it at the driver in the #20 car. |
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I think Jr. is 10x the driver his old man was.
Sr. couldn't pass anyone without hitting them. All those years of purposely messing with Bill who nearly always drove CLEAN. I still remember Sr. as Ironhead. |
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Gordon got into this sport young, and had a lot of success young. We've seen him grow up a lot over the years. I can't understand people hating him anymore. 12 years after his first championship, he's still driving hard and winning races. I believe Dale Sr. is proud of him.
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I was in Charlotte, N.C. when the booing started.
It was the week of the first Night Winston race. (One Hot Night they called it) It was the Winston that Davey won crashing with Kyle Petty at the finish. Anyway, Jeffy was driving the Baby Ruth Tbird for Bill Davis Racing. Ford had helped Jeffy through Daytona, etc. and had sent engineering help to his team. This was back when the Busch series was running V6's. (annoying bumblebee sound) Ford and Jeffy had a handshake deal where Ford would move him up to (then) Winston Cup when he and Bill Davis were ready. Well, convicted felon Rick Hendrick offered Jeffy a ton of money to jump ship, and Jeffy did. He did not go to Ford or Bill Davis and say "Hey you guys have helped me, and I got this offer. Match it.....". That didn't happen, He just signed and the deal was done. Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think) and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race. The press was all over him and so were the fans for not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford. Legal, yeah. Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly? Heck no. Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be. |
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The normal rules don't apply to Gordon, Johnson, and Stewart. Haaaa don't drive for the cat in the hat or the rules apply double. I don't know that JJ might be a good person but he is associated with AzzClown Gordon. I like Robby Gordon better than jeffy. |
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But when you make opinion fact, have your facts straight first. He was not crying. Gordon spoke up and the drivers agreed with what Gordon had to say. http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ega/index.html http://www.adelphia.net/sports/read....=auto%20racing |
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Careful how you use the word integrety along with NASCAR. Here is the rule, learn it, love it and believe it, NASCAR is about one thing and one thing only....
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You hit the nail right on the head. Just about any one of us would have done the same thing if the $$$ were flashed in front of us. We see it every year in every sport, athletes with integrity, athletes without integrity, leave their teams to free agency and chase the last dollar. Why shouldn't they? A team will let them go without a warning themselves if they so choose. Very few of us in our current jobs would not leave it in a heartbeat if someone was offering us far more money and a greater opportunity. Jeff Gordon did nothing that most of us wouldn't have done themselves. When you are an athelete or a driver it's a business, it's about the money. |
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I'm nowhere close to being a Stewart or Gordon fan but the only thing I respect about them is their skill and that they HATE to lose. If you show me a driver that's happy to just run with the Cup crowd but is ok with not winning. I'll show you someone who is acustomed to losing. I want my driver to never be happy with second but have normal reactions to stress. Look at Burton, Martin, Kenseth, and the other drivers with class. :cool: EVEN Harvick is learning from Jeff Burton and growing up some. :yes: |
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Wishing well to one of the greats in LMS and Busch racing.
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Look at what my wife caught me doing. Introducing NASCAR to my 4 month old son. He seems to like it. :OUCH:
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My dad was a modified racer in the late 50's thru the 60's. Dale Sr was a few years older than me and I remember him from those early days (we were both kids hanging at the track). Comparing Jeff Gordon to Dale is like Andy **** vs Chuck "freaking" Norris. :headbang: Sorry to let you in on this but racers back then would not put up with some of the stuff we see today. Example Jeffy pushing Kenseth post race for the camera, do that to even a modern era modified racer and you will need more teeth. Kurt B. learned that messing with Jimmy Spencer. :CHEERS: :11: Don't make me throw a Bud can at ya. :23: |
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The comments about Gordon's voice replacing Big E is silly. Mark Martin and Jeff Burton are the only guys that come close to taking up the role Dale played. The friendship between Dale and Rusty was real and always made me laugh. Dale never found a replacement for Neil Bonnett who was probably the most talented driver I ever saw and clearly his friend for life. I'll take a Joe Weatherly or Glenn Roberts over Gordon, it won't matter how many wins on his resume. I just don't like his character. Sorry. |
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Well, another week and another pole for Grodon. And lookie! Not only no Mikey in the race, but our 'buddy' Dale J. has managed to use up all of his provisionals and so...he's not in, either!
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