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G 09-09-2007 11:52 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RnJstel (Post 855311)
You all seem to forget Toileta's comments early in the season, like:

"We (Toyota) are not interested in a set/established high profile team". "We are going to show how that we (Toyota) can build a sucessful championship team".

Well, lets look at Toiletta's M/O in Nascar:

1. To enter Trucks, throws bus loads of money at BDR threreby gaining access to Dodge's very sucessful Truck Powertrain development. Dodge even began a major lawsuit against BDR but, too little too late.
2. In Cup and Bush, now throwing Bus loads off Money at JGR. Think carefully about this, since JGR was one of the main players in Chevy's RO7 engine.
3. Toiletta's own "grown" teams (Red Bull, BDR, MWR) are Corporate teams meaning all R/D is done by the company (TRD) and has no where been competive in the Cup or "Major" Leagues
4. As such, they will now as Roush so correctly called it "spend Cubic Dollars" to just buy the technology.
5. Toiletta's own Nacar powerplant has no, absolute zero basis and any production anything and was custom designed for Nascar. 6. The COT was brought about for Toiletta, thereby wiping out years of R/D aero knowledge by Ford,Chevy and Dodge.

Basically, Nascar as the "sanctioning body" is no better than the Vichy French government in WW2.

Look what happened to Indy when they sold out. IRL is just as irrelevant as Nascar soon will be.

BTW, Toiletta has announced that all R/D and Engineering will be re-centralized back to Toyokowa City in Japan. American Company, my ***. Just beacuse they build a few B/S plants (paying almost zero Tax, and a disproportionate salary to workers since they get such sweet deals from sell-out Local Governments in poor states) don't make them an American Company. Stupid American lemmings, they just keep beliving the B/S you see on the boob-tube and Toyota's new "American Company" advertisements.
The R07 is also a NASCAR only engine (try to buy one for another purpose without GM oversight)

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/16/g...nascar-engine/

Ford is also developing and now testing a NASCAR design (which they have done numerous times in the past) to compete with the competition.

This is an interesting sight:

Ask Bill Bagwell, a lifetime Detroit-area General Motors employee, proud daily driver of a Pontiac, and he'll tell you that NASCAR is an American sport, and Toyota is a Japanese car company, regardless of where the Camry is built. Bagwell feels strongly enough to start a Web site, FansAgainstRacingToyotas.com, with the acronym FART - "We're creating a stink!"

He felt strongly enough to start a site to sell for $$$$$!!!
http://fansagainstracingtoyotas.com/

There are several people trying to just make a buck or gain fame by the arrival of Toyota.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/fea...s_terribl.html

The Ford stuff is developmental, the R07 has obviously seen track use, and the Toyota engine is on the track in 4 different versions in 3 Nascar divisions. The big issue is not Toyota - it's the fact that we have not seen a stock car race in many moons. It is an American Sport and should be run in American cars (stock cars) driven by Americans. :butt:

birdman941 09-09-2007 02:13 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Brian France is a boob that drives a Lexus.
Traitor.

falcongtho3 09-09-2007 07:42 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
:OFFTOPIC: But did you catch the IRL finale? Dario Franchetti (or Mr. Asley Judd if you will) won the race and the championship on the last turn of the last lap of the race when Scott Dixon ran dry on fuel. Very exciting!!! Hope when Dario drives next year in the Cup series he brings an energy with him, hopefully different energy than Montoya.
:borg:

gvervoren 09-16-2007 10:04 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Junior to drive the 88?

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...d=2&id=3019878

Azure Blurr 09-16-2007 10:21 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 858556)
That'll make some rednecks happy! Won't cost to much to add another "8" onto their arm! :MADNOEL:

wchamberlain 09-16-2007 11:36 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 652078)
What do guys and gals think of having a thread strictly about NASCAR. I know this subject can get pretty nasty sometimes though.
I think it *****, why should they call it NASCAR, I'm thinking more along the lines of Asscar, Hashcar......That's what you have to be on too sit there and watch em go round and round and round for hours on end, try sophisticated racing, lets say open wheel, just a tad bit more challenging IMO. Yeah i'm gonna go with F1 on this one.

Azure Blurr 09-16-2007 11:45 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
1155 post in this thread and you just now wanna gripe? :??:

wchamberlain 09-16-2007 12:10 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure Blurr (Post 858599)
1155 post in this thread and you just now wanna gripe? :??:
Well considering I was browsing, did not realize some many people's lives evolve around Asscar, yeah I do have a life other than Hashcar.

gvervoren 09-16-2007 12:16 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wchamberlain (Post 858622)
Well considering I was browsing, did not realize some many people's lives evolve around Asscar, yeah I do have a life other than Hashcar.
My life doesn't revolve around it. I just like to watch and follow it. In fact, I will be sitting my azz down in front of the TV in about 45 mins cause pre-race starts.

falcongtho3 09-16-2007 01:31 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wchamberlain (Post 858590)
Yeah i'm gonna go with F1 on this one.
Sure, why not. There's no controversy there...other than that Ferrari/McLaren 'situation'. I really like a sport where there's a $100 Million
fine levied (say it...say it like Dr. Evil would say it...), while handing the Red Team the series championship as well as probably putting the series best driver 'Hamilton' in a Red car next season by driving the other team out of not only contention, but probably out of business as well.
:borg:

G 09-16-2007 01:59 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wchamberlain (Post 858590)
I think it *****, why should they call it NASCAR, I'm thinking more along the lines of Asscar, Hashcar......That's what you have to be on too sit there and watch em go round and round and round for hours on end, try sophisticated racing, lets say open wheel, just a tad bit more challenging IMO. Yeah i'm gonna go with F1 on this one.

Yep you got that right, that's why Juan is RUNNING away with a championship and has had no trouble on the track. :23:

NASCAR has open-wheel racing too.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ed/nshome2.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...websizzler.jpg


NASCAR has always done open-wheels
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...H_xwbred21.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...P35MiniMod.jpg

Azure Blurr 09-16-2007 02:40 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
G you can't teach them youngins nuthin'! Let him believe what he wants, hes probably mad cause there ain't no Honda out there yet! :31:

gvervoren 09-16-2007 05:45 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Congrats to Clint Bowyer. First cup win. That was quite the burnout too!!

G 09-16-2007 07:08 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 858737)
Congrats to Clint Bowyer. First cup win. That was quite the burnout too!!
I was working in the shop on the DD so I saw much of the race but dang it, I was under the car for the burnout.

Great win for Clint, man did he have a good car. :smokin:

TRMach1 09-17-2007 11:16 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Pony cars coming to Nascar Busch (or whatever new sponsor's name is) Series! Saw this on the SpeedTV website.

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/nascar/busch/40293/

gvervoren 09-17-2007 05:29 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRMach1 (Post 859091)
Pony cars coming to Nascar Busch (or whatever new sponsor's name is) Series! Saw this on the SpeedTV website.

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/nascar/busch/40293/
That's pretty awesome!!! Stangs in NASCAR!!

G 09-17-2007 05:37 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRMach1 (Post 859091)
Pony cars coming to Nascar Busch (or whatever new sponsor's name is) Series! Saw this on the SpeedTV website.

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/nascar/busch/40293/

That's a smart move. Real cars are always better than the COT crap. So we may see some V8 Supra's. :OUCH:

02mach1 09-17-2007 05:38 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Roush win alot races now in ATT= Bush races

02mach1 09-19-2007 12:45 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
It's time for Dover

Carl will win this week .:ORANGE:

03mach69mach 09-19-2007 04:53 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G (Post 859256)
That's a smart move. Real cars are always better than the COT crap. So we may see some V8 Supra's. :OUCH:
Toyota will use the Prius as thier car!!

birdman941 09-19-2007 05:01 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Maybe they will finally allow EFI and DOHC motors.
If so, we win!

ylopony 09-22-2007 08:30 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 858673)
Sure, why not. There's no controversy there...other than that Ferrari/McLaren 'situation'. I really like a sport where there's a $100 Million
fine levied (say it...say it like Dr. Evil would say it...), while handing the Red Team the series championship as well as probably putting the series best driver 'Hamilton' in a Red car next season by driving the other team out of not only contention, but probably out of business as well.
:borg:
Good point.


Let's not forget the fiascal a couple of years ago in Indy. :notsure:

I'll take my cold Budweiser, a bowl of Dorito's, and a Nascar race anyday over a glass of Chardonay, cheese cubes, and a F1 race. :LAUGH:

Blackpony04 09-22-2007 12:18 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 861857)
Good point.


Let's not forget the fiascal a couple of years ago in Indy. :notsure:

I'll take my cold Budweiser, a bowl of Dorito's, and a Nascar race anyday over a glass of Chardonay, cheese cubes, and a F1 race. :LAUGH:
Dang, I like cheese cubes....:( :D

Never been a huge fan of open wheel racing so I'll gladly keep my NASCAR any day too.

G 09-23-2007 07:32 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
A bunch of my favorites up front at the end. Carl and the Biff would have put on a good show if they would have run longer between cautions. Nice run for Martin, Jr, and Burton. :CHEERS:

ylopony 09-23-2007 07:42 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
If it's not Gordon or Johnson running 1-2 you'll never see me complain about two class guys like Edwards or Biffle finishing in that order. Nice finish by Jr. as well. I can't wait till he crosses over to the good side of the force with the Hendricks team next year. :HOPPY:

falcongtho3 09-23-2007 08:05 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
I was sick to see Kenseths car go south so near the end. He was the class of the field for most of the day, including leading the most laps. Very happy to see a backflip at the end of the race!
:borg:

birdman941 09-24-2007 07:20 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Edwards' car failed inspection, being 1/2" too low in the RR.

02mach1 09-24-2007 12:10 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Carl didn't lose any points.

falcongtho3 09-24-2007 07:58 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Not today, he will tomorrow...
:borg:

birdman941 09-24-2007 08:18 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
You watch, Brian (Panzy)France will put the screws to Jack if he can.

gvervoren 09-24-2007 08:38 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
He always does!!

JakeTews 09-24-2007 11:44 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 863251)
He always does!!
Sad but true. Jack takes so much crap from NASCAR. :Flame:

ylopony 09-25-2007 10:27 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 863212)
You watch, Brian (Panzy)France will put the screws to Jack if he can.

It's been pretty consistent all year with the penalties. I don't think they(Roush) should be penalized as severe as the Hendricks team or DEI were earlier. However, they were not legal and a penalty is in order. I hate to say that because Edwards is a class act.

birdman941 09-25-2007 10:58 PM
ASSCAR screw Edwards and Roush for 25 points
 
And it had some bent brackets near the "low" area.
What a crock.

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ine/index.html

falcongtho3 09-26-2007 07:17 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Even though the 25 point hit drops him a few spots in the chase, the points spread is so tight right now that everone is still in the chase.
:borg:

04VAMach1 09-26-2007 08:37 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
I don't follow NASCAR anymore for precisely this reason. Jack Roush is still the only car owner to lose points after winning a race...now a second time.

02mach1 09-26-2007 12:42 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Carl will win this weekend .

birdman941 09-26-2007 01:21 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 864164)
Carl will win this weekend .
I hope so.
I also hope during the victory burnout,
he smacks the wall just a tiny bit to make height measurements pointless.

falcongtho3 09-30-2007 07:08 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
The 'right' guy smacked the wall yesterday...during practice. I hope he continues practicing smacking the wall all day today...
:borg:

gvervoren 09-30-2007 11:03 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Azure Blurr 09-30-2007 11:04 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 866143)
The 'right' guy smacked the wall yesterday...during practice. I hope he continues practicing smacking the wall all day today...
:borg:
Who da fool hittin da wall? Missed everything so far this weekend! :Flame:

falcongtho3 09-30-2007 11:29 AM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Jimmy took the pole (read into that what you will), and then was turning the fastes practice laps of the day when the wall jumped out in front of him. Darn...
:borg:

(PS, that last part was sarcasm...just in case there was any confusion in the Henricks organization. Kinda like Kyles illegal manifold yesterday)

G 09-30-2007 02:46 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Rain Rain Rain :SMASH:

weaver 09-30-2007 02:52 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 866143)
The 'right' guy smacked the wall yesterday...during practice. I hope he continues practicing smacking the wall all day today...
:borg:
Amen !

falcongtho3 09-30-2007 07:43 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
The never ending race.
I cannot believe the idiot comentators are praising Stewrat for his actions in the first lap wreck after the long red flag...
And now that *$#*& jerk took out Edwards!!!!
C'mon NASCAR,do somthign about this Robbie Gordon wannabe!
:borg:

Azure Blurr 09-30-2007 07:53 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 866438)
The never ending race.
I cannot believe the idiot comentators are praising Stewrat for his actions in the first lap wreck after the long red flag...
And now that *$#*& jerk took out Edwards!!!!
C'mon NASCAR,do somthign about this Robbie Gordon wannabe!
:borg:
:agree: Carl had a good attitude about it though. Stewrat may be a little pissed with Zippy!

Azure Blurr 09-30-2007 07:56 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
This is getting funny! Can they run 10 laps without wrecking?

G 09-30-2007 08:24 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
They will challenge the finish for sure. They should have let him start it up and drive to the pits. :eyebrows:

gvervoren 09-30-2007 08:33 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
The best part was watching Stewart in the car throwing things around. He will probably blame Kurt for the incident even though there was nothing he could do.

Azure Blurr 09-30-2007 08:36 PM
Re: NASCAR thread
 
BP will be happy! They sure can whine when they think it will get them a little more! I hate to see losers whine!


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