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I agree with you, they are not "America's Team" by any stretch. The Atlanta Braves used to go by that moniker also.

Actually I'm a Lions fan, and they definately are not America's Team (at least not yet) by any means LOL.

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Being a Lions fan now and a being a Saints fan for the last 40-odd years are not all that different. At least your fans (the ones that actually do attend games) don't wear paper bags over their headslike we saw back in the days of the Aints. It will get better!

:borg:

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Speaking of Lions fans, the Chicago Bears hired a new defensive coordinator today......... Rod Marinelli. I AM SO THRILLED I COULD JUST PUKE. He was d-line coach and since the defense did SO WELL last year (21st in points allowed, 17th in yards allowed, 13th in pass yards allowed and 23rd in rushing yards allowed) they made the obvious decision that they needed to promote from within!!!! Fantastic!!!! I need a boat captain, where's the captain of the Exxon Valdez?

This dovetails nicely with their decision to hire ANOTHER one of Lovie Smith's out of work buddies to be the offensive coordinator, Mike Martz, who was fired from his last three gigs. He will lineup five wideouts on nearly every play. That will leave five o-linemen who couldn't block when there were seven of them to get Jay Cutler maimed and end his career WAY before we get any real value out of him.

So to recap, we have those two castoffs, plus Mike Tice, another failed head coach and some dudes I have never heard of to turn the team around.

Lovie is like a seventeen year old, I can imagine the conversation:

Lovie: "You got fired again?"

Rod (or Mike or any of his other buddies he has drug through Chicago): "Yeah man, it sucks can you hook me up?"

Lovie: "Dude, how did you get fired again?"

Rod: "I dunno, they kept sayin' something about 10 and 38 and then 0 and 16. Man I don't know, they just suck."

Lovie: "It's cool man, let me talk to the owner, they're idiots dude, I should be able to hook you up."

Rod: "Cool."

The only good that come out of all this is that hopefully after this 5-11 season it will be the blessed end of the Lovie Smith show in Chicago and we can look forward to the Bears hiring Raheem Morris to guide them to a 4-12 season in 2011.

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New Orleans needs to win cuz 99.21% of the people just want to see Kim Kardashian jumping up and down :23: :claus:

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I thought 99.11% had already seen it.

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Great...just what we need, our own version of Dallas' Jessica Simpson curse.

:borg:

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They've been called America's team since 1978 and were first referred to as that by the current VP of NFL Films

In 1979 during their game vs. the Cardinals the CBS Announcer referred to them as America's Team

They are also #1 in the NFL for franchise value passing every other team by leaps and bounds at $1.5 billion. This gives credence to the fact they probably have the largest fan following of any NFL franchise.

Really though, "America's Team" is a 30+ year old tradition....you should let it go

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Well I always thought they reenforced the America's Team label by being #1 in America in drug arrests(the 90's):23: :23:

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The weather looks good for Superbowl

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The "America's Team" label is an anachronism, as stated above it was created by the media back in the days when they controlled what came into your living room. Back then when somebody like Brent Musbuerger or Walter Chronkite told us how to think, that's how it was and we had nowhere else to go for information. In today's world fans can follow their teams with NFL Sunday Ticket, Sirius satellite radio, streaming webcasts and a wealth of alternate media available to us. It allows us to follow whatever team we choose no matter where we live, so to say that there is one "America's Team" is nonsense. Do they have the most fans? Who knows, or who cares?

Dale Earnhardt Jr has more fans that any other NASCAR driver pricipally because he has a name that annoying fanboys can easily latch onto, just like the Cowboys. Just like the Cowboys, he hasn't won anything important in a long time. Is he "America's Driver". No.

I happen to think many Cowboys fans never try to think about what appeals to their values or what they can identify with in some way, they just go the easy route, pick an established "winner" and grab the biggest, lowest swinging nut they can find and hang on for dear life without giving a single thought to how the teams were built and established or the faces behind the logos.

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It's a 30 year old crock of chit. As far as I'm concerned they never have nor ever will be worthy of such a title....nor is any other single sports collective. Luckily, the media in recent years picked up on the fact that while the Cowboys may have alot of fans, they've also generated an equal (if not greater) amount of haters................ironically, as a result of them being continuously referred to over the years as "America's team".

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not every1 has seen her p0rno vid sucka :smack: :23:

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I was just stating the facts. Ive never referred to them as America's Team or even cared. But i just get aggravated at the fact most people act like the fans created it in the 90's or something.

And I hope your last paragraph isnt referring to me. I was born and raised in Texas. To me, the cowboys are the home team....I'll always love em win or lose.

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65f/b, I'm proud of the fact you've stood by your team, win or lose. So amny would find a way to bow out and pretend that the season didn't end on the note it did. I remember the years that Miami was 'the' team, then the 49ers, and so forth. It's easy to jump on a band wagon, and just as easy to bail off. You haven't.

But today, it's the day. We've waited over 40 years for it. The pride in this state is tremendous. The black and gold colors are painted all over the state (as well as Miami from what I've seen). There is an insanity that makes Mardi Gras look like a tea party. People are packed in New Orleans just to be there. It's jammed.

My hope is a win, most certainly. Do I blind myself to the facts, the stats and the opinions of the 'experts'? Certainly not. Is that going to change my opinion of who I root for? Certainly not. Am I going to be mad if we lose? Not really. We got this far, and only one other team did that this year. This is a year of memorable games, both good and bad. But at least this years it's mostly good.

So to everyone here. Enjoy the game. Root for your favorite. Spend the time with friends and family and talk smack. It's gonna be fun!

And:
Who Dat!
Bless ya' boys.
Black and Gold in the Super Bowl.
There's a Brees blowin' into Miami.
Mainning on the ground!
Who Dat says we can't put Who Dat on a T-Shirt!?
(And if I can think of other recent cliche's, I'll post them, too!)

:borg:

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hehe...thanks for the comment...doesnt mean imma take it easy on you though

After today, what will the Colts and Cowboys have in common?



they both beat the Saints

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"New Orleans linebacker Scott Fujita left the Cowboys after the 2005 season and signed with the Saints seven months after Katrina.

"The Saints are America's adopted team. There's no question about it," he said. "When I chose to leave Dallas, everybody said, 'Why would you leave Dallas? They're America's team.'

"Well, they were self-proclaimed America's Team a couple decades ago, and they have really, really good, loyal fans, but the rest of the country hates them. I mean, let's be honest," he said."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100207/...america_s_team

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and most of America is SICK of the Katrina junk....hence why im pulling for the colts

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That was absolutely stupid for the Saints to go for it on 4th down. It's not like it was 2:00 minutes left in the 4th Quarter. They had a chance to cut the lead and stay close with it still being way early. It should be 10-9.

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What a time to throw an INT, looks like my Saints might pull this out, oh wait I'm a Deadskin fan.Well lets hope for a close finish.

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gahhh....i dont really hate the stains...but I am SICK of "they should win because of all they dealt with from Katrina"

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WHo the hell cares about Katrina. Nobody down in Louisiana drones on and on about that anymore. We've moved on. YOu can thank the stupid media for all that crap.

That being said, it's official.............the Colts did NOT run all over the Saints. :butt:

The better team was gonna win this thing....and that's exactly what happened. Respect owed...:worship:

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Saints Win Super Bowl XLIV :worship: :COOL: :D :yeh:

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Ya...thats why the Saints owner's speech just now included "The city and state has been through a lot and deserves this".....i guess he's media?

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Oh man, are you kidding me? Now that the Saints have proved themselves all you detractors can complain about is the Katrina thing???? Are you kidding me? Whatever man. Complain all you want. Nobody down here cares.

It's all over. Let the haters keep hating. Us Saints fans have some proper celebrating to do.:smokin:

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im a cowboys fan and could care less who won the superbowl

but im not kidding you that im sick of the katrina thing....just like i was sick of freeny's ankle

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I'm gonna make just this one statement about Katrina and the city of New Orleans, several players from the Saints,Brees and Bush just naming a few have been instrumental in New Orleans rebuilding effort. Thats IMHO is the reason why people in America(Except Cowboy fans) were pulling for a Saint win, Including myself. Now I won't even compare how the players of the Cowboys would react to a natural disaster in the Dallas area, has'nt happened, can't compare. Fastback 65, don't be an a$$ and just be happy for a community that is still recovering from Katrina........................................... .......Kevin.

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Personally, I was sick of hearing about f***ing Peyton Manning. But you didn't see me complaining. Too many people held that guy up to be some kind of god that could not be stopped. The man is human. He's a great football player,and a hell of a quarterback, but he is as fallible as the next man. Like I said days ago to all the people here who gave the Saints no chance at this thing.........anything is possible and the Saints have as good a chance as any.

As far as the media's romance with post Katrina New Orleans (or Tom Benson's input for that matter)......screw that. This was a football game, not an act of God as repayment for a natural disaster. I'll agree that anyone who wants to run with that whole aspect of this thing should not be allowed to say anything about the Saints on air. But that doesn't diminish the fine bit of work by the Saints players tonight. They went in there an earned that victory.

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Gotta tip the cap to the Saints. I live just outside Indy, & all I heard the past couple of weeks was how many points the Colts would win by. I didn't see it. I saw how good the Saints most of the season, & I figured this would be a close game.

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Peyton isnt the QB that Brees was tonight ! The Saints played as a team .
Great game . :worship:

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Can I quote you on that??? :23: :23: :23:

:borg:

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Screw Dat!! :23: That interception was a stake through the heart. I did'nt agree with that 2 point conversion. At normal speed he never had control long enough. In super slow-mo it looked like he held it forever. Control is all the way to the ground even on a TD catch (or extra point). I did'nt think he held it long enough to be considered a catch. The Saints defense baled them out again. Takeaways wins games. That on-side kick threw me for a loop. Ballsy call. I think next year the Saints might not be as strong. I doubt they can get as many turnovers as they got this past year. Same thing happened to the Bears.

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Brees on the Right
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...1/DSCF1106.jpg

Drew Brees in my MRAP (FOB Stryker) RAKKASAN
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...1/DSCF1114.jpg

Drew Brees Pimpin a 240B RAKKASAN
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...1/DSCF1116.jpg

osi umenyiora in the turret RAKKASAN
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...1/DSCF1110.jpg

Me sporting Osi's SB ring!!!!
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...1/DSCF1115.jpg

Yeah I had to put my dollar in for the Saints since the Lions missed by a game or two....

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Congrats to Saints winning the Superbowl 44 another black gold team won Superbowl.:claus:

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Tracey Porter has huge plays in both the NFC Champ. game as well as the SB. He is one who came form obscurity to become a big local name. Brees stepped up and did what he does best. Bush, great. Shockey, tough as a $2 steak. The 'D'...they brought the whole package. No one could have asked for better from all of these guys. Thank you, thank you guys.

As far as Kartina, the media brought this to the forefront and have since it happened. You really don't hear the residents talk about it much. You still have a lot of destruction and rebuilding that may never be finished. It's no more done than the rebuilding in Hatei. My world wasn't destroyed by Katrina, but my city forever changed, as did the entire state. Sorry if you don't understand...but if you weren't affected, consider yourself a lucky person and don't judge those that were...you will never understand.

:borg:

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A big congrats to the Saints and the city of New Orleans.

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The only thing that I will add to that is my disappointment that all the talk about Katrina is 100% about New Orleans, LA. Yes NO was devestated, no it has not fully recovered by any stretch and maybe it never will BUT there were many places along the Gulf Coast that were devastated by Katrina and contrary to what you think if you watch the news, many were worse than New Orleans. Places like Pass Christian, MS and Biloxi, MS just to name two that were obliterated by the winds from Katrina. Pass Christian looked like Hiroshima on August 7, 1945. Thousands were driven out of their homes by flood waters as far east as Pascagoula, MS (maybe 8 miles from the MS/AL line), where they recieved 20 FEET of water in their downtown area, not because a system of poorly maintained levees burst but because of a 20+ foot storm surge. Many of these places aren't much further along in the rebuilding process than New Orleans, if any. Many will never rebuild. Their homes, their dreams for their families are gone forever. This was not just a tragedy for or about New Orleans, LA, it is one shared by many across the Gulf Coast.

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i understand...my 67 mustang has damage from katrina....roof off my parents barn was tore off. dad had to board up the windows, etc.

i guess thats why im growing tiresome from the media attention still surrounding it

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exactly my point...that and the major cities nearby like Houston (where my parents live) took damage and housed, fed/watered tons of people as well...not to mention mississippi and alabama.

shoot id rather talk about rest of louisiana....esp over some city that was BELOW sea level. Thats like someone parking their car on railroad tracks and carrying on about how bad the train wreck was for the next 5 years.

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this is how i feel....NFC won....im stoked about that

and the superbowl champs were knocked off their perfect season by my boys....so thats a nice consolation prize haha

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I told you there was an upshot to pulling for a Saint's win. ;) :D

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I'm sure there's a trophy for that...a special ed trophy. At least the Cryboys SHOULD be better than the Saints and Colts next season...they'll have three extra weeks to rest up!

:borg:

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Being that a Indiana State Patrol gave me a BS ticket on the way back from Bermingham I have never prayed:wings: so much in my life for the Saints to win the Super Bowl. They made my day and to officer Smith :butt:

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Ummm, yeah. Like your not paying for Katrina.

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Attachment 46453




Saints become America’s Team
By BEN WALKER

AP National Writer

MIAMI — Marshall Faulk ran as far as he could from the dead-end Desire Projects. He bolted the New Orleans streets to play college ball in San Diego, then blossomed into an NFL star with the Indianapolis Colts.

Forced to take sides in this Su¬per Bowl, it was easy. Faulk rooted for his roots.

From President Barack Obama to a Queen, from Mr. Big to Miss America, the retired All- Pro had lots of company. For one game, the Saints were America’s Team — champions, too, after a 31-17 win over the Colts on Sunday night.

“We played for so much more than ourselves,” quarterback and Super Bowl MVP Drew Brees said.

That’s for sure, Faulk said.

“This is very important to the city,” he said a few days ago. “For the last five, maybe 10 years, whether it’s Katrina, or the crime rate, the city’s always in a bad light. Now ... you’re getting to see some of the great things that we have to of fer.”

French Quarter hotels and restaurants filled up as Sunday’s game between the Colts and Saints approached, with fans streaming into Louisiana hoping to begin cel¬ebrating a week ahead of Mardi Gras.

Almost 4½ years after flooding from Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and nearly chased the Saints out of town for good, the c l ub ’ s first Super Bowl win may well represent the city’s rebirth.

“You can’t put it into words,” r e¬ceiver Marques Colston said after the win. “This city and region have been through so much.”

Even the Colts grasped the soulful connection between the Saints and their town.

“ Ther e’s a reason America is pulling for New Orleans, and why w o u ld n ’ t they? They’ve been through a lot,” Indianapolis safety Antoine Bethea said recently. “Sports tends to pull people togeth¬er, so it’s commendable for New Orleans to be, as I guess you’d say, America’s Team right now.” Who Dat! That’s the shortened version of the team’s rally cry: “Who dat, who dat, who dat say gonna beat dem Saints?”

Egged on by New Orleans play¬ers, Saints fans started that loud, fa¬miliar chant inside Sun Life Stadi¬um an hour before kickof f . Adorned in black-and-gold beads, toting parasols in team colors and stirred by a brass band, they parad¬ed outside. Clearly, they needed no prompting to start the party.

Long after the final whistle, Saints fans lingered inside, chant¬ing and cheering. It was a win many of them thought they may never see. The franchise began playing in 1967, one year after the first Super Bowl, and had never reached the big game.

Perhaps the Saints’ biggest fan — literally — is the NBA’ s Shaquille O’Neal, the 7- foot- plus Cleveland Cavaliers center who got his start at LSU.

“It’s good for the city, the econ¬omy and the organization. When I went to school, they had, like, a 99¬year curse and hopefully that curse is over,” O’Neal said. “They haven’t won it at all. They haven’t always had bad seasons but they’ve always had, like, one play — a missed field goal or a fumble or somebody get¬ting hurt — and now this is their chance.”

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^^^^Yea, that's not stirring the pot TOO much.:mean!:

No, the Saints don't need to get tagged as the next America's Team. Like I said earlier, no one team deserves that title. I'm still a little bewildered as to why people are tying this victory to a tragedy that happened almost 5 years ago. The special connection that the people of this area have to the team is there for sure.......but it was there long before Katrina came along. Too many people trying to stretch this thing to make some sort of delayed Cinderella story out of it.

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Every team will eventually have their year to at least make it to the Superbowl. Heck, the Arizona/St. Louis Cardinals were even a worse team than the Saints before last year. They made it to the Playoffs like twice in 35 years. It's either 4 or 5 teams that have'nt made it to the Superbowl yet.

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I think it's amazing that this Super Bowl became the most watched TV event, ever! Surpassing even the well known MASH finale, over 106 million people watched this past weekends game. I think they got their moneys worth.

There's a report that the next SI cover will have Brees holding his son. If you haven't seen it, it's a very cool shot. Funny, only yesterday I told a lot of people that shoudl be the cover shot. Looks like I finally got somethign right...

:borg:

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The Lions are one of those 4 or 5 teams :D

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I'm not a Saints fan, but I LOVE this.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,225075

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:23:...It was on ESPN radio last night. I laughed my a$$ off.
Cowboys lose again! :23: