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You just proved my point regarding Eli becoming one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. Thanks.:smokin:

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I'm not going to say that Eli is not a good qb or the leader to this Giants team. He is both. However, Eli is not a great qb. He is very solid but far from great. He is part of the puzzle of a VERY GOOD team. I don't think he makes those around him greater. Another qb like him would be Roethlessburger(hate him) in Pittsburgh(hate the team as well). He's far from great, but solid and a part of the puzzle. However, like Roetlessburger he is showing an ability to not get rattled and do something good in a key moment of the game.

A qb that I would say is having a great year and is the best in the NFL right now is Drew Brees. This guy looses his running game, his top receiver, then his tight end, then another receiver, then another running back and he still puts up great numbers. He is making those around him better. He may not be winning like Eli, but then Eli don't have the defense that Bree's does.

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If you would have seen the game at the beginning you would have sworn that Pitt was gonna get it's butt kicked. Pitt started the game with an onside kick they failed to recover, and then Pitt had another turnover right after that. Luckily Pitt held them to just 6 points from those turnovers. From then on it was downhill for Washington.

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I agree that Eli is a solid piece of a great team made up of merely good parts. Part of the credit would have to go to the coaching staff, they are a well coached team.

For all the talk about Tony Romo, he is a very average quarterback and he cannot save a team that is struggling in many areas of the game right now. Maybe even more important are the personalities on this team, I don't think they are a great recipe for a winning team. They are great front runners but they SUCK under adverse conditions.

+1 for the Drew Brees comment. I likewise am not a Saints fan, but they have got the qb in the league right now.

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Steelers open up can whip **s last night.

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romo, average? you do realize his numbers and style compare nearly identical to brett farve who happens to be one of the best of all time, right?

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His style compares to Brett Farve!?!?!?!?!? What? Brett Farve in his prime could do things that Tony Romo can't even comprehend. He could made throws that Tony Romo will never, ever, ever be able to make. Not to mention when the game is on the line, Brett won it and didn't choke like that chokey assed choker Tony Romo.

You are truly delusional.

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:wtf:

:23: :23: :23: :23:

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Yeah I saw the early lead, but since I had to work on graveyard Sunday morning and stayed up late Sunday night doing work for a class I was dead tired and fell asleep in my chair...wasted a beer too.

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Brett Favre doesn't f**k up because he's paying more attention to Jessica Simpson.

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I will not say that Romo is average, but nor will I call him great either. He needs to put more than 2 years under his belt before being called a great one. He has the potential to be a very good if not great qb. However, have the numbers and wins for 10 years and then we'll talk greatness.

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Little Robbie is in the 5th grade.


> Yesterday morning when the teacher asked the children what
> their fathers did for a living.
> All the typical answers came up; fireman, policeman,
> salesman, etc.

> The teacher noticed that little Robbie was being
> uncharacteristically quiet and so she asked him about his father.
>
> 'My father's an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes off all his
> clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer's really good,
> he'll go out to the alley with some guy and do it with him for money.'
>
> The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement,
> hurriedly set the other children to work on some coloring, and took
> little Robbie aside to ask him, 'Is that really true about your father?'
>
> 'No,' said Robbie, "He plays for the Detroit Lions, but I was too
> embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids."

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agreed

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Career

Brett Favre
61.6% completion %
1.52 TD's per INT thrown

Tony Romo
64.6% completion %
1.86 TD's per INT thrown

weird...oddly very similar

Farve has 1 superbowl for the 17 years he has played. If Romo has less championships in 17 years of his career....then I'll believe you

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Here ya go dreamer.

Career

Brett Farve:

Honors and awards

Favre has won the Associated Press's MVP Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award three times, all in consecutive years (1995, 1996, and 1997; the last shared with Barry Sanders).
In 1999, he was ranked number 82 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. In 2005, TSN published another special feature honoring the 50 Greatest Quarterbacks. With his career statistics considerably augmented, Favre was ranked number 4, behind Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and John Elway, and just ahead of previous Packer quarterback legend Bart Starr.
Favre was named the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 2007.
Favre has been selected to play in the Pro Bowl nine times in his career.
Favre is a six-time All-Pro selection.
Favre was named to the NFL 1990s All-Decade Team.
Has received the NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 12 times.

Records and milestones

Favre currently possesses most of the well-known NFL career records for quarterbacks, including:

Most AP NFL MVP awards: 3 (1995, 1996, 1997)
Most consecutive starts by a quarterback (NFL): 261 (283 including playoffs)
Most wins by a starting quarterback (NFL) regular season career: 165(Regular season record: 165-96)
Most career passing touchdowns: 457
Most career passing yards: 63,467
Most career pass completions: 5,557
Most career pass attempts: 9,021
Most career interceptions thrown: 300
Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 65
(2nd) Most career playoff pass completions: 438 (Montana, 460)
(2nd) Most career playoff pass attempts: 721 (Montana, 734)
(2nd) Most career playoff passing yards: 5,311 (Montana, 5,772)
(2nd) Most career playoff passing touchdowns: 39 (Montana, 45)
(Tied 1st) Most career playoff interceptions thrown: 28 (Jim Kelly, 28)
(Tied 1st) Most career playoff losses as starting QB: 10 (Dan Marino, 10)

Favre's 261 consecutive starts trails only Jim Marshall's 270 consecutive starts as the longest such streak among players at any position.

In the playoffs, Favre stands behind only Joe Montana in pass completions, passing touchdowns, passing yards and passing attempts.

In addition, Favre owns a number of team records, having printed his name into almost every passing category in the annals of Green Bay Packers history. With 38 "come-from-behind" 4th quarter wins & 2 more overtime victories, Brett Favre is the Green Bay Packers record holder and second only to John Elway's 47 4th quarter or OT "come-back wins", in NFL history.

Consecutive starts streak

Brett Favre started every game his team played from their game against the Pittsburgh Steelers on September 27, 1992. He is currently in first place for the most consecutive starts by a quarterback in the NFL and one of only five quarterbacks to have started over 100 consecutive games in NFL history.

Tony Romo:

Two Pro Bowl appearances.
Holds Cowboys team record for 300 yd games.

Weird, not oddly similar.

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It's a lot easier to put up those stats over 4 years (with only 2 as a starting QB) than it is over 17 years. Let's talk about where he is in another 10 years...then we can decide if he is truly great. Right now, he is simply good.

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By the way, Romo is in his fifth season and after five seasons Farve had been to the Pro Bowl four times and MVP twice. Romo has been to the Pro Bowl twice.

I edited my above post to be fair and include TR's two pro bowls and the one team record I can find. I don't think he's awful, I just think it's an absurd comparison.

I really can't believe I am doing this, defending Farve. I hate the Packers.

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Like 'em or hate 'em...Brett Favre is a lot of fun to watch play.

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Yeah he is a lot of fun to watch. Plus he's from just down the road from here, a southern boy like me.

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Tonights game on NFL Network Brownings and Denver I take Denver:smokin:

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How dare you go and pick Denver to beat my Browns. I'm coming down to Hurricane WV and *itch slap you. :smack: j/k

Actually I think this is going to be a close game. Denver is pathetic right now.











But come to think of it so are my Browns. :23:

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Fixed!

I don't care who wins, I just got my HD system hooked up and I am dying to see a game, any game. Right now I am watching a replay of the Bills game just to see a game.

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I understand its 2 years starting vs. 17 years starting. But im talking about style on the field and results over career...they are similar.

heres one farve fact I found interesting since everyone wants to call romo the playoff "choker"....favre: Most career playoff losses as starting QB: 10 (Dan Marino, 10)

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Like I said, it's too early to compare him to "greatness." Will he ever achieve "greatness"? Don't know, let's see how many more pinky injuries keep him out of games.:butt:

Think about what playoff losses mean...you can only get one each year. If you don't get one, you either didn't make the playoffs or you got a SB ring.

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oh i know...its just, if we used romo wording as in other posts in this thread, it would read

"well, maybe favre can get the jets into the playoffs this year, but he'll prolly choke just like the last 10 times"

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Man that Kellen Winslow Jr is GREAT. He is my kind of player, he doesn't say much, he puts the team first and you can depend on him to make a play when it counts. WOW!

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That's funny, the Cowboys don't even believe they can win.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...=si_topstories

They'll be smokin' allright,

Smokin cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo once the playoffs start.

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Never once have I said anything to support this prema donna. Jr is nothing like the old man. But then again he is like most typical athletes today. It's all about their stats, showboating, taunting, stupid celebrations after a 3 yard catch while losing by 30, touchdown celebrations lasting 2 minutes again while down by 30, mouthing off teammates, and finally blaming everyone else for their failures.

Pick a team, any team, including the one that you root for and I'll guarantee you that there is a Winslow on it.

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I was right on Denver tonight.:smokin:

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I have no problem saying that...I never like GB and I don't like the Jets.:butt:

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Hey, I really am sorry if you took that the wrong way. I didn't think you were supporting him, nor did I think I was inferring that you were. I just saw you were a Browns fan and wanted to rib you a little. I agree with what you said above.

I will say I am a Bears fan and I feel like they do a bit better job than most teams of keeping egos in check, maybe that's because every other year they only win four games.

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Looks like Bills stay around with Pats sofar,

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The Jets play in too tough of a division to have any real chance. They're a decent football team who's just starting to build chemistry. I'd like to see Favre come back next year. I think they could do some real damage. They're killing the Rams right now 40-0 at halftime.

That said, I feel real good about the G-men against Philly tonight.

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Steelers will beat the Colts today.

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No problem, I'm sorry if you took my statement wrong as well. As a fan I love Winslow's ability. However, he is a grade a :butt: I'm tired of players like him, Owens, Moss, Chad "Ocho Cinco"(proof right there), and others who feel that they are bigger than the game and the team.

As for the Bears, I've never disliked them. That is until today. Dang, they limited Chris Johnson to 8 yards rushing. That is killing me on my Fantasy Football team. :23:

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It's a major problem in sports today and it really turns me off. I can't watch the NBA at all for this same reason. A player scores two points out of 210 scored that night and goes into an epileptic fit.


I was proud of the Bears' run defense today. If maybe every once in awhile they could have stopped a pass play they might have been in good shape. But you have to hand it to the Titans, the Bears took away their bread-and-butter, the run game and they still found a way to win on the road.

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Well, that was not pretty, but I'll take it. A win's a win. G-men go to 8-1 and increase their first place lead.:smokin:

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I think you need to edit your post .
Cant wait until they come to our house .

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what get beat:33:

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The stillers need to bench Roethlisberger until he's 100% and maybe beyond. He made some passes yesterday that were high school. His arm is not what it used to be due to injury (ies) - noodle arm. He is regressing, not progressing. His intercepts are way up the last 3 games, he takes too long to throw the ball, and he doesn't hardly ever check down to his RB as an outlet, even though Leftwich showed him how to on that Mon night game against the 'skins. For what he's getting paid he should be among the games elite QB's - he's nowhere close to playing that way. Maybe some bench for Ben would wise him up.

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Lefthwhich will start this sunday Ben out for two weeks,:mrt:

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This is going to be ugly. Leftwich can't move around like Ben and the Steelers can't pass protect, so the sackfest is about to get underway. Leftwich might not last long enough to get back to Roethlesburger.

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Parker is back for this week to run the ball, Leftwich is 100% now we got job done over Wash. he got ball out faster then Ben did.

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Like last year ! :butt:

Tied for the division with a 4 game win streak with a rookie QB ! :claus:

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Yea you going get by Gaints this week,

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It depends on which Eli shows up ? Its possible but i would not bet on it !

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We are doing surprisingly well this year! New coach rookie QB I’m impressed!

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Hey 02Mach1,

Where'd ya get this info from? Nothing 'bout it on the Steelers site. Thanks!

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Still doubting Big Blue. LOL

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Sportsbeat Steelers talk show on FSN/Fox Pitt.