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HAHA the Skins were also 3-1 at one point this season so being undefeated for a few games means about as much as well nothing. Dallas also scored 27 points on the niners, so were those absent WR's playing Defense? And who was absent... Michael Crabtree?? HA! Plus wasn't Dez missing from that game for the boys?? Don't even get started on the injury thing it can go both ways. On top of that you are talking about stats against average and below average teams.

Pittsburgh has transitioned from a run to a pass team. Mendy has only 1 game all year over 100 yards. Ben doesn't need a run game, Ben hasn't needed a run game in a long while. Good luck covering any of our WR's. Possibly the most explosive group in the NFL hands down.

Hate to tell you but you can throw all over that secondary in SF. I love the match up in our favor. Alex Smith won't win this game for you and he will be exposed for the average Qb that he is.

Like I said earlier not knocking them just saying intersted to see them play a good team and see how they stack up. You back your team :orange: It's been a while since Niners have been relevant but its nice to see.


For what it's worth Steelers don't deserve a #3 power ranking. We haven't done enough. Let's beat Baltimore then we can talk about being #3 and actually deserving to be there.

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Crabtree and Braylon Edwards.

By your own definition of Elite team, your team has not beaten one this year.

The Patriots have the worst defense in the NFL.

And even if you beat Baltimore, their offense is ATROCIOUS.

Furthermore, in the Dallas game, the Niners lead the whole game and like I said.. it was a blown coverage play away from being a big win. If you want to talk about losses, I could bring up Baltimore. Your team sure looked great in that one didn't they! And 10 points against Houston? MIAMI got 13.

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You are taking it to heart. Steelers have been a top 5 team in the NFL for 10 plus years. We beat quality teams year in and year out. Your team is having a good first half of one season. THATS IT!! It will be perfect when our teams meet. All the bugs worked out everyone should be hitting their stride from the shortened pre season. No excuses, just good football.

Remember who started the **** talking when you actually play some decent competition. I sure will :laugh:

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Anybody have a defense for sale. The pats are in need

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cowboys win, steelers lose, pats lose....what a superb day.

looks like next week they'll all have identical records too bahahaha

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Go back to the 1st grade. Pitt's record is 6-3. Buffalo is'nt any slouch either.

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Not bragging about that ugly azz cowboy win.

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Steelers will beat bengals this week:yes:

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Demarco Murray is gonna be a great running back. I saw him play the week before he got his 253 yards, and you could tell already that he was better than Felix Jones.

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LOL Steelers suck.

And the Niners should have beat the Redskins 26-3, but the refs got a call wrong on an endzone dive for us that WAS a touch down. And the redskins got a TD in garbage time with most of the second string on defense. Meh. I'll take a W, but the game was way more lop sided than the score shows.

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Here we go. Nobody has been a 49ers fan in 15 yrs. Now that they are winning, "I ve always been a 49ers fan". The band wagon is loading....

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LOL, K. My old username is 04AzureMach. Go back to last year when they sucked. I was still here talking *****.

I rooted for them during their 2-14 season just as much as I am now on their season on pace for 14-2. You know what they say about assumptions...

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One thing you can say about me is that I'm here talking (or complaining) about my Bears whether they are 12-4 or 4-12.

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Its football season, smack talk and assumptions are part of it. :D A few 49er fans have popped up at work. And I know go and well they were pulling for someone else last yr.

I m a Steeler fan, this is my 36th yr. When they won the last Superbowl, I had on my jacket and this guy tells me, "I ve always been a Steeler fan". Then goes on to talk about Hines Ward playing defense and called someone a linebacker that played on the offensive line. I tuned him out after that. :smack:

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You can have your #1 seed in the Playoffs at 14-2. Then promptly watch them get their azzes handed to them.

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By whom? We almost beat the Saints and Falcons last year with a moron for a head coach. They were both better teams last year than they are this year. Can't say that about the Niners though. Also, we already beat the Lions IN DETROIT. The Eagles won't be there. The only other team we could possibly play in the first round is the Giants. We'll see how we handle this this weekend. Also could be the Bears, but all they have is a running game and all we do is stop the run better than anybody. They on the other hand don't stop the run nearly as good. The only team I'm worried about (as is every other team) is the Packers. And looks like we wouldn't play them until the conference game. That wouldn't be promptly losing. With a backup QB, we were competitive with them last year. Actually led at the half, but just like every other game last year, the team collapsed. Hasn't happened this year though.

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Don't worry you will have your chance to come back down to earth. At some point your team will have to throw and then we will all get to see the real Alex Smith. Giants have the team to get up on the Niners and force them to play a style of ball they don't want to.

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The Niners have had no problem scoring (more points so far than the Steelers). The Giants can't stop the run to save their lives.

That being said, the Niners were down by 20 and 10 behind the Eagles and Lions respectively and still came back and won. Smith threw 200 yards in the third quarter against the Eagles and led a game winning drive against the Lions. He has the 3rd best 4th quarter quarterback rating. He's been pretty clutch. What people don't seem to get is, just because they don't throw it a lot doesn't mean they can't. If you can run the ball at will (which is less risk than throwing as well as shortens the game), why risk interceptions and injuring receivers?

When it comes down to it, the Niners have a top notch receiving core. Better than the Steelers. Yes, I said it. Braylon Edwards, Mike Crabtree, Vernon Davis and Delanie walker are all big receivers/tight ends that are match up problems with the exception of Crabtree who is more of a finesse receiver. 3/4 are first round draft picks. The O-line is nothing but first and second rounders. Smith has a lot of help. He doesn't have to be Peyton Manning for the Niners to win. He has the fewest interceptions thrown per attempt and he's really starting to learn the offense (lots of audibles recently) and is only going to get better. He's already miles ahead of last year.

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:23: Sounds strangely familiar to what a Patsy fan would say. "My team's shiite don't stink". :rolleyes:

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I just don't see them losing their first play off game. If they lose to the Packers in the second game (NFC Championship), then that won't exactly be anything to be ashamed of.

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I can't even talk to you anymore about this. You are delusional. You really think the WR's for the Niners are better... never mind this is retarded. Like arguing with a 10 year old. :crazy:

:12: are you on drugs?

Haha hey man good luck though for real. It's good to see you supporting your team like you did back in the 90's. Break out your starter jacket baby!!

You sound like all the Skins fans here trying to support your belief with stats. People don't believe you becasue the team is suspect. They haven't done anything yet.

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IF they make it to the playoffs. Playoff births haven't been given out yet have they?

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I watch all of your games. My fiance is a Raven's fan. My two best friends are Steelers fans. Unlike you, I actually know something about your team. You clearly know nothing about mine. Mike Wallace is all you got. Ward is old and slow. Brown is having a break out season, but it won't be long until defenses adjust. Heath Miller doesn't even belong in the same conversation as Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Crabtree makes Santanio Holmes twinkle toes catches. Kind of like how he DIDN'T actually get both feet down against the Cards in the SB. Speaking of which... kind of funny how much you struggled against them in the SB when we not only swept them that year, but beat them handily.

They can clinch their terrible division in two games. They're up by 5 games already. The #1 and 2# seed are many games away, but they could slip and fall into the #4 seed without much effort at this point. If the niners beat the Giants, the rest of the division loses (arizona vs philly, st louis vs cleveland, seattle vs baltimore) and then next week the Niners beat the Cards and the Rams beat the Seahawks, they clinch the division with 9 wins. That would put the rest of the division at 2-8. I know how weak of a division it is, but so far they have only played 1 division game. They have 5 more games against terrible teams. Even if they only win 4 of those 5 and none against the Ravens, Steelers and Giants, they still finish 11-5. A record that is statstically impossible for the rest of the division.

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All the Steelers have is Wallace? Are you drunk? Wallace, Sanders, Brown, Crotchery, Ward, Miller, and an back field that can catch and run as well. SF doesnt have ONE player in the top 50. Steelers have 3, Heath being one of them. SF passing game is ranked #31, Steelers are #6, 2nd in the AFC. SF defense is good at stopping the run, #1 to be exact but #22 against the pass. Times have changed, running the ball doesnt win football games anymore. You have to be able to pass....ALOT.

Ward maybe old but hes no way slow and he can still get the job done. The only WR in the league that a top ranked LB calls out.

We have a make shift OL and a put together defense. All of the starting defense has yet to be on the field at the same time.


Take our starting QB away last yr for 4 games and where did we end up? And lose with a QB that had a broken foot and broke nose. A star LB that had 2 back surgeries in the offseason.....

I know it all falls on deaf ears, you learn over the years as a Steeler fan, everyone loves to see you lose. Dont make excuses and just go with the flow. Heck even with 2 Superbowls, they are just now putting Ben in the same category as Brady and the other golden QBs of the NFL.

All I hear is the packers packers packers....WHO have the played? How in the world did they get that schedule? Only tough game they have are the Lions, Bears, and maybe the chargers.

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Have you and Fastback 2-2 been talking? You both sound like twin brothers. Oh, and 3 turnovers tend to make you struggle in any game. As I remember, it took till the last 1 minute of the game to decide the winner.

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So because they have more catches they are better receivers? Heath Miller is a bum compared to Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker. No one outside of Pittsburg would argue otherwise. The Niners are 32nd in pass attempts. You're going to base talent of the WR off of total yards when they don't get half the opportunities? All I can say is SCOREBOARD because the Niners have scored more than you have. The niners may run the ball a lot, but if you put too many in the box they DO have the wide outs to make you pay for it.

Right, because LINE BACKERS are great at evaluating WR talent. He called him out so there'd be no excuses, not because he's some kind of amazing receiver like Calvin Johnson.

Niners have dealt with injuries on both sides of the ball, but they're still rolling. Every team has injuries.

So let me get this straight. Your team wins 3/4 games without Ben and you want to call him elite because he has two rings? Trent Dilfer has a ring. Big Ben is better than Dilfer, but do you think Big Ben would be as successful with the Colt's defense? Ha. Look how bad that team is without Manning. That's proof he's an elite QB. When your team wins 75% of it's games even without your starting QB, that doesn't help your argument.

I agree with you there. The Saints and Bears are the only teams with a winning record they've played this year. However, no one can even come close to the level of play Rogers is putting up this year. 24 TD's to 3 INT's. That's an 8:1 ratio. Most consider 2:1 good, so he's doing extremely well. The Packers D is really looking suspect though.

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You are delusional. All I know is football. I am one of the most real and honest people break down of talent and teams you will ever meet. You argue out of both sides of your face. You argue for stats then against them. Look, honestly and truth... the Niners are good so far this year. They just have not done enough to say WOW they are a bad *** team. I like the Niners, I do follow all teams closely. Fantasy football, me coaching football part time, and just a love of the game keeps me interested. I can tell you anything you want to know about your team. (just about :)) I just don't look at them through rose colored glasses like you do.

When was the last time Braylon edwards or Michael crabtree were relevant?? What? When? Braylon hasn't been the same guy since Cleveland and still dropped the big passes, and Crabtree can't stay healthy, he isn't a burner, and his hands are so-so. You say they could break out if they had to... Jeez talk about hypotheticals. Davis is a beast. top 5 TE in the league easily. He is a physical freak. No way Heath Miller is a better field stretcher, but he has great hands and can block his *** off, which is what Steelers tight ends do. They probably won't have the Tony G, Fred Davis type of TE... just not in their DNA I guess.

Hines ward is a comparable talent to crabtree. Hines gets it done though AND can actually block down field. Hines is the #1 WR for yardage in Steeler history... He is a bad dude. You may watch the games but you dont see the games LOL.

How can people figure out antonio Brown and leave Wallace alone?? pick your poison BUT either way you die. Don't forget about sanders and cotchery. I mean this is full WR corp. Not just 2 guys and some tight ends. We have legit #1 in Wallace, but those other guys are equally as good as the other in Brown and Sanders. our 3rd wr is our #1 wr of all time. **** talk about a shitty squad huh? laughable///

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yeah Rodgers is sick. He has been ever since he got his start. Packers D just has to keep teams to around 21 points and let Aaron do the rest. It's silly the way he pitches it all over the yard HAHA

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Robby, BTW you really are trying to say Santonio didn't get both feet down?? please stop... Just please stop with the crazy

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No one is relevant until they make noise in the play offs or unless you're Calvin or Andre Johnson. I'm surprised Patrick Willis gets any respect after playing for the joke of the NFL for the past decade. That doesn't mean they aren't talented. The person you're really not focusing on (nor are defenses) is Delanie Walker. He's lined up at 15 different positions. He can block as good as Miller and catch as good as Vernon Davis. He'd be a starter on 28 other NFL teams. Most of Gore's big runs came behind Walker. He has as many TD's as Davis. If you ever watch a 49ers game, watch number 46. He's not well known, but he's probably the biggest part of the offense no one is talking about. People double up on Vernon, but Walker makes them pay. If they both played in New England in place of hernandez and gronkowski, they'd both be household names.

Crabtree has blocked fine down the field and there's lots of Gore highlights you can see it in. Braylon might block even better. If you look at Braylon's drops, they have gotten less each consecutive season. He is a legitimate receiver and can do the fade route just as good as anyone not named Calvin or Andre. The Niners also lost their most productive receiver in Josh Morgan during their 48-3 rout of the Bucs.

I still say you CAN win in this league without airing it out for 300 yards a game. When it comes to scoring, 200 yards with 0 ints is better than 300 yards with 1 int. In most of the games, the Niners played with a lead and they get super conservative when up by 10 points (minus the bucs game, but they got so many turn overs from them inside their own 40, it made scoring easy). They don't shoot themselves in the foot. Might not be flashy, but it's smart. Alex can throw for 300 yards if need be (he has in previous years).

More about Alex.. did you know under Singletary, he would not allow Smith to audible? He was basically hand cuffed last year. Not allowing one of the smarter QB's in the league to audible is probably the most detrimental thing you can do to an offense. He had no trust. So far, this year, Harbaugh has shown trust and Alex's mistakes have been minimal. Less than any other QB.

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Every time I watch it, it looks like his right foot is touching his left foot, but his toe is above the ground. I always remind people that pick 6 before the half was what determined the game. That's a 14 point swing that should have never happened, but hey, that's football.

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I know who Delanie Walker is :) Probably one of the more versitle players in the game becasue someone finally recognized his talents... well let me say he has always had the talent just not in the position to show case it the way he can. Could be his height, honestly I don't really know what it is but he does fly under the radar quite a bit.

I am not saying the other guys can't do things... I am saying that they probably dont do it on the same level. Braylon isnt a blocker like the Steelers WR's are. That comes from Hines who is easily the best down field blocker in WR recent history. braylon just has to step up. He was let go from his other homes because of his hands. He can get out, there is no doubt but who do you trust on a fade route Wallace or Edwards? All I am saying is that Wallace catches just about all of those balls with authority and can run behind anyone in the NFL.

I agree, I think you can win on a solid D and running. Pittsburgh, Baltimore and others have done it for years. Even with an average QB (even though Ben wins, he isn't elite). The only thing those teams struggle with is being able to score when and if you get down. It throws your entire game plan out the window. Patriots made a living doing this to Pittsburgh. If the Niners had a Troy P or an Ed Reed in that secondary I might be a little more inclined to show some love :3b:

Singletary was one hell of a player, is probably a great assistant coach, but I think we all know he wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. Love the guy, just went baout things in a wrong way I think.

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C'mon man. His ankle bends on contact when is feet hit the ground.

There were a couple of big plays in that game for both teams. Little bit of luck and determination and its in the history books as one of the greatest finishes of all time.

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No I call him an elite QB bc everyone compares QBs to Brady. Compare the stats Brady vs Ben and see what you got. Compare Bradshaw to Ben and see what you got. Heck, compare him to Joe Montana. :COOL:

He simply doesnt get the respect he deserves bc the Steelers are hated by everyone, especially the media. Put him in Dallas or NE or NO or Indy and he would be the best thing since sliced bread. Not a QB in the league could do the things hes done or does with the OL hes got. NOBODY. They broke his nose in Baltimore last yr, no flag. They took out Hines this yr, no flag. We re hated, I accept it.... I love it.

The colts have been on a downward spiral for several yrs. It didnt help moral when you bring in not only a RETIRED QB but a so so one at that. Instead of giving your #2 guy a shot. Moral means alot on the field and in a locker room. They pretty much slapped the whole team in the face with that move. With Peyton in his last yrs, is this a plan to pick up Andrew Luck?


For you to even try to down play Hines tells me you are looking at it with blinders. Yeah, Calvin Johnson is better than the future hall of famer. :crazy:
Hines had already hinted at retirement. If they had won the Superbowl, he was pretty much done. I was shocked after dancing with the stars thing that he came back.

Heath is far from a bum, again take off the blinders. Not only are his stats better but he has 2 Superbowl rings.

They didnt win 75% of the games without Ben, they only played 25% without him.

As far as the feet being down, http://www.steelersdepot.com/2009/02...for-touchdown/ Every picture showing otherwise was after he touched and was hit by Francisco.

http://www.azcentral.com/closeup/art...pholmestd.html Look at 10 his feet are down and the defenders hands are on the bottom of the 10 of his jersey. Pic 11 is the one everyone uses to say he didnt touch but look at the hands, up near the shoulder pads. 12 is different angle, defenders hands down, grass coming off the toes where they touch. That my friend, was a touchdown.

I was at the packers/panthers game. Cam Newton is the real deal. For the Panthers to do what they did, the packers are lucky to get the win. A little better run game and some help on defense, look out. Granted the packers are winning, they are clicking, but as I said, they really havent played anybody.

I have nothing at all against the 49ers. Even pull for em when they play Dallas, NE, Baltimore or Cleveland. Greatest thing going right now for people who hate the cowboys is Jerry Jones. RIP Al Davis but that was the only thing holding the Raiders back for many yrs.

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Where in the hell have those Cowboys been? They didn't give the game up in the 4th.

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Romo = the greatest :machgod: QB of all time (well for at least one game)!






Big Ron

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Steelers won we are 1/2 game out 1st place:bigeyes:

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:machgod::butt::COOL::CHEERS::yes: Come on Seattle....

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I may need to revise this. Go Bears!

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My Redskins are BACK. We just needed sexy Rexy back at QB.
It was great to see us move the ball down the feild, get in the red zone....and go backwards, kick FG's, or just give the ball back to the other team.
I've been a REDSKIN fan since the 60's but as long as Danny BOY owns the team.........they will always SUCK.

On a positve note. It was nice to take a nap during th 2nd Quarter. :laugh:

Sorry for the RANT.

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My Wife is right there with you, ranting.

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I'll give you the Holmes catch. I hadn't seen those pictures.

But Hines Ward... yes, he has had a HOF career, but even Jerry Rice's production declined in his mid 30's. Hines Ward is not what he used to be. If this was 2005, you'd have a strong case for Hines being elite, but I don't think anyone considers him that anymore. Calvin Johnson is a better WR in 2011. Unfortunately for Detroit, he's all they got and defenses are starting to figure that out.


I've had the same argument with Packers fans. Outside of New Orleans in week 1 (that could have gone to either team the way the game was going), they have beat no one. I think the Bears might upset them.

Also, please don't blaspheme Joe Montana's name with Brady or Big Ben. Regular season stats notwithstanding, Montana never threw a single interception in a super bowl and routed Elway 55-10. He dominated big games, while Big Ben was inconsistent at best.

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Steelers are in 1st place:machgod:

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2nd Seed, tied for 3rd best record. Losing to the Texans will hurt you come playoff time. They are in good position to get #1 seed unless Baltimore wins your division, then they have the tie breaker over Houston.

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Why would Houston hurt us? They lost to Tennessee and Jacksonville.

Dont know where I want them to be. #1 is nice but I m scared they ll get lazy with the 1st round bye.

You can say what you want but all the fines against our defense has affected their play. They dont know how to hit anymore. I wish the Rooneys would just call em all together and go "F the commissioner and his definition of a hitting. Get out there and play football, I got your fines coverd." Heck, the refees dont even know what to call.

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Houston lost to Baltimore, Oakland and New Orleans. I meant if you end up with the same record as Houston, they get a higher seed than you due to heads up tie breaker. Baltimore doesn't matter who they lose to now... if they end up with the same record as you, Baltimore sweeped you so they get the tie breaker. My point was that the teams with records high enough to compete for a seed, you have lost to with the exception of cinci.

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Tell her she is not alone and I feel her pain. :frown:

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Hey Merril Hodge, how about Tim Tebow now?

I've never seen a GM look like somebody peed in his cornflakes when his team goes ahead with :58 to go util I saw John Elway just now. Elway sits in the owner's booth HATING every minute of this, looking like the woman who owned the Indians in Major League. Denver has done EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE to sabatoge Tim Tebow (which should be grounds for firing them all) and he continues to win games for them. Just imagine what he could do with a coach/GM/supporting cast who supported him.

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Jets! Jets! Jets! Crash! Crash! Crash!

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I don't know anything about the drama within the Broncos, but I like Tebow. The guy has the look in his eyes of a guy that's driven and wants to win. I told a co-worker before the season even started they should start Tebow from game 1. He's squirrely and winning games which is good to see, but I doubt that kind of play would cut it in the Playoffs. I think they'd get killed. He needs to find at least a small comfort zone in the pocket.