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np_mach1 12-13-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by punishermach (Post 1445113)
but i thot you only tackle people who still have the ball? I understand its a physical game,**** one of my favorite players of all time was Ronnie Lott. I enjoy the big hits of the NFL. I agree with THUNDERBOLT about the bulshit calls that happen because of players acting like it was bigger hit than it was, But this hit wasnt one of those bs calls.

Yeah I did say colt could have slid before he threw the ball after that point JH was going to hit him he couldn't stop. I posted a vid of the play. It's clear what happened. Colt was running at him then tried to be cute with the pass. He threw it just before contact for all JH knew he pumped faked. You are always taught to play the man.

If you like Ronnie you would know he couldn't afford to play in this league with all the head leading and defenseless hits he made in his career.

Like I said I'm done. Let's talk about some thing more important....

So who thinks tebow and the broncos can beat the pats?? Haha. I hope they do :)

np_mach1 12-13-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1445089)
I'm sick to death of all these pansy penalties. It's almost like now players are jerking their head backwards during a tackle just to simulate that they were hit in the head to draw a penalty. I saw one hit on a QB yesterday and the QB got tackled in the chest and the blind refs call a forearm to the head. Not even close. :angry:

Was that the Fletcher to Brady hit? Even Tom said the hit was clean after the game. He used that penalty to his advantage by faking a slide later on too. Rules made the defense soft. That's what JH was making sure didn't happen.

gbranton 12-13-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1444999)
come on NFL is be come p***y Football that's not right

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Originally Posted by shadowmaker (Post 1445105)
Its a physical game.

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1445089)
I'm sick to death of all these pansy penalties.

On the surface of it, I understand these sentiments, I really do. I want to see the guys who are meaner and tougher carry the day, that's part of the mythos of football and why we, as Americans love it so much. BUT there is a flip side to this coin and that is what becomes of these guys we "love" so much in the (hopefully, but sadly usually not) fifty years of their lives after they aren't smashing into each other for our enjoyment. Do we really love them or do we just want them turned into dog meat for our entertainment? Has anyone seen Earl Campbell lately? An awesome physical specimen in his prime, thrilling to watch, he gave so much on the field but he is a near cripple now.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...1_CD77MB5.html

If you were a "fan" of Campbell's do you really enjoy seeing him like this? Looking like a crippled old, Grady from Sanford and Son? My second favorite football player ever, Jim McMahon has developed neurological problems from his time in football which effect his memory. JM was as tough as almost anyone who ever played. Do I want to see Jimmy suffer and end up like a vegetable? Hell no. So again, I ask: Do we care about them at all or do we stop caring about them when they can't hit the open man anymore?

Men like Earl and Jim are the most manly men among us, they wouldn't protect themselves when they were playing because like all of us they were young, invincable and tougher than the other guy. Unfortunately when they get a little older and realize they should have ran out of bounds or threw the ball away it is too late. I for one, want guys like McMahon, Campbell and all the others to live long, healthy lives after football. Not saying anyone here does, but I can't throw people aside whom I have cheered for in the past. I cheer for them in life just like on the field, the ice, the ring, the cockpit or the stage.

And it's not just football, has anyone read about the enforcers in the NHL committing suicide? Due to brain injuries. It's sad.

I think now that we realize how serious the effects of all these blows are on the human body the League has a responsibility to protect their employees just like any other company. If not for humanity's sake, then to protect themselves from litigation that WILL come.

IF we really care about these athletes as human beings a part of us should support protecting them when they are on the field.................even if it's from themselves.

np_mach1 12-13-2011 10:13 PM

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Earl was a special player. It is sad to see him the way he is. These guys know what the potential outcome is though. Not everyone is an earl when they get out. Plenty are a jerry rice or many others who have normal lives. I see a few former skins every once on a while who played as long as earl did and they are fine. Business men nice guys good shape still working out at the gym and all that.
On that subject of bein beaten up I do think retired players or former players should get some type of assistance. Nfl makes enough money to help the ones who made the game what it is today.

punishermach 12-13-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1445125)
Yeah I did say colt could have slid before he threw the ball after that point JH was going to hit him he couldn't stop. I posted a vid of the play. It's clear what happened. Colt was running at him then tried to be cute with the pass. He threw it just before contact for all JH knew he pumped faked. You are always taught to play the man.

If you like Ronnie you would know he couldn't afford to play in this league with all the head leading and defenseless hits he made in his career.

Like I said I'm done. Let's talk about some thing more important....

So who thinks tebow and the broncos can beat the pats?? Haha. I hope they do :)

well i guess we will have to agree to disagree,that ok with me thats what makes it interesting, with that said i hope the broncos beat the pats, i cant stand the patriots.

gbranton 12-13-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1445134)
On that subject of bein beaten up I do think retired players or former players should get some type of assistance. Nfl makes enough money to help the ones who made the game what it is today.

Agree 100%. NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry and the people suffering the most BUILT it.

My favorite sports figure of all time has been spearheading the fight, Mike Ditka. BUT he doesn't just whine about it while sitting on his wallet, he has spent quite a bit of money off the record to provide for players who weren't as fortunate as he has been. I LOVE Coach Ditka.

As for Sunday, the Patriots secondary is SO BAD that I think Tebow might be on the cusp of a 300 yard passing day, but will probably lose the game. Tom Brady's 300 yards will result in 38 points and Tebow's will probably result in 20.

np_mach1 12-14-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by punishermach (Post 1445138)
with that said i hope the broncos beat the pats, i cant stand the patriots.

I hope so, but I am a Pats hater too haha

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1445146)
Agree 100%. NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry and the people suffering the most BUILT it.

My favorite sports figure of all time has been spearheading the fight, Mike Ditka. BUT he doesn't just whine about it while sitting on his wallet, he has spent quite a bit of money off the record to provide for players who weren't as fortunate as he has been. I LOVE Coach Ditka.

As for Sunday, the Patriots secondary is SO BAD that I think Tebow might be on the cusp of a 300 yard passing day, but will probably lose the game. Tom Brady's 300 yards will result in 38 points and Tebow's will probably result in 20.

I'm a big fan of Coach Ditka as well. I didn't realize how involved he is with helping former players.

I have a feeling you might be right but I sure hope Pats can get knocked down a notch.

punishermach 12-14-2011 01:00 PM

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[QUOTE=np_mach1;1445200]I hope so, but I am a Pats hater too haha



hell yeah, i can admit they are a good team, but i just don't like them,and i dam sure don't like Brady. So if the broncos and tebow pull this one off that will make my weekend so much better, that and if my cowboys can pull it together and win.

gbranton 12-14-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1445200)
I'm a big fan of Coach Ditka as well. I didn't realize how involved he is with helping former players.

Chairman of the Board for the Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund, whose board contains ANOTHER one of my all time favorite players, The Kansas Comet, Gayle Sayers.

http://www.gridirongreats.org/gridir...sistance-fund/

np_mach1 12-15-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1445276)
Chairman of the Board for the Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund, whose board contains ANOTHER one of my all time favorite players, The Kansas Comet, Gayle Sayers.

http://www.gridirongreats.org/gridir...sistance-fund/

Wow. Thank you for sharing that. I'm going to read about it later today.

Love watching Gayle run. So smooth.

Thunderbolt 12-16-2011 09:00 PM

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First Cutler got hurt, then Forte got hurt, now Sam Hurd is a weed/coke kingpin. What next? :smokin:

gbranton 12-17-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1445790)
First Cutler got hurt, then Forte got hurt, now Sam Hurd is a weed/coke kingpin. What next? :smokin:

Sitting at home watching the playoffs.

serviceman1 12-18-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1445200)
I hope so, but I am a Pats hater too haha



I'm a big fan of Coach Ditka as well. I didn't realize how involved he is with helping former players.

I have a feeling you might be right but I sure hope Pats can get knocked down a notch.

Wow that was tough whats next hopefuly the tin cans in the playoffs bring it on.

un gm 12-18-2011 08:28 PM

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Thanks redskins:MADNOEL:

NTMAREMACH 12-18-2011 08:30 PM

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You have to love Tebow's last run, wow 29 yards. To bad it was in the wrong direction.

Thunderbolt 12-18-2011 11:07 PM

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This is a golden opportunity for the Steelers. Huge game tomorrow.

gbranton 12-18-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1445146)
As for Sunday, the Patriots secondary is SO BAD that I think Tebow might be on the cusp of a 300 yard passing day, but will probably lose the game. Tom Brady's 300 yards will result in 38 points and Tebow's will probably result in 20.

Final score: 41-23, so I shorted each team a field goal.

np_mach1 12-18-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by serviceman1 (Post 1446041)
Wow that was tough whats next hopefuly the tin cans in the playoffs bring it on.

Steelers already gave them boys more than they wanted earlier in the season. Be careful what you wish for. :eyebrows:

02mach1 12-19-2011 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1446081)
This is a golden opportunity for the Steelers. Huge game tomorrow.

We will get homefield if Steelers wins next 3 games

punishermach 12-19-2011 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by un gm (Post 1446048)
Thanks redskins:MADNOEL:


hell yeah

kiler be 12-19-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by un gm (Post 1446048)
Thanks redskins:MADNOEL:

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Originally Posted by punishermach (Post 1446121)
hell yeah

lol Your welcome. :MADNOEL:
That will cost you 2 draft picks next year. :eek:

np_mach1 12-19-2011 11:54 PM

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Nothing to say... Better team tonight won. No excuses. You were right Robbie

gbranton 12-20-2011 12:14 AM

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Wow. I guess Jim Harbaugh is a shoe-in for coach of the year.

kiler be 12-20-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1446287)
Wow. I guess Jim Harbaugh is a shoe-in for coach of the year.

+1...NO BRAINER......If I had a vote.

Thunderbolt 12-20-2011 10:03 AM

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Once again, turnovers kill the Steelers in a big game. Oh well, #1 seed is a curse anyway.

punishermach 12-20-2011 08:37 PM

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ok im a cowboy fan,so you know how i feel about the steelers but i was really surprised to see big Ben out there you could tell he was having trouble just walking, he must have been in alot of pain. I appluad the bravery but man he could have really gotten hurt worse, and that really would have put a damper on the steelers playoff run, I think they should have let batch play.

Thunderbolt 12-20-2011 09:50 PM

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After the first interception I knew what was coming. Myself, I would have pulled him after the sack/fumble that made the 3rd turnover. It may have been too late at that point anyway. Frisco is formidable, but we'll see how they do in afew weeks. No Playoffs in 8 years.

np_mach1 12-21-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by punishermach (Post 1446463)
ok im a cowboy fan,so you know how i feel about the steelers but i was really surprised to see big Ben out there you could tell he was having trouble just walking, he must have been in alot of pain. I appluad the bravery but man he could have really gotten hurt worse, and that really would have put a damper on the steelers playoff run, I think they should have let batch play.

Yeah. Coach Tomlin really could have pissed away our playoff chances with that decision. Ben couldn't be Ben best to have Dixon in there. He can run out of Swiss cheese pocket if he had too haha.

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1446479)
After the first interception I knew what was coming. Myself, I would have pulled him after the sack/fumble that made the 3rd turnover. It may have been too late at that point anyway. Frisco is formidable, but we'll see how they do in afew weeks. No Playoffs in 8 years.

He just wasn't the same guy. Hopefully a week or two of rest and mendy running the ball hard will help. We will see though.

shadowmaker 12-21-2011 11:01 AM

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As much as I wanted the win, I agree with playing Ben. With the exception of the last part of the 4th quarter bc we were still in the game. The only reason to have pulled him was to keep him from getting hurt. But even a healthy QB can get hurt.

We played better at home this yr than on the road. That 1st round bye wouldve gave some time to heal up some guys but the 1 week makes em rusty too.

We got beat, we played bad and thats that. But that was some of the worse officiating I ve seen in a while. "leaping"? Really? Guess they were making up for the first one that they complained about. :rolleyes: The punt interference call? Really? Go back and look, it hit the 49er player first. Kinda odd they wouldnt keep replaying those 2. Funny they made a comment about BOTH and then shut up. If that had been the Patriots, they would ve stopped everything in SF.

As far as ruining the playoffs, we would have to lose all 3 games for that to happen. And to be honest, the way they are playing, that might not be a bad thing.

Just frustrating the way they are playing...

shadowmaker 12-21-2011 11:04 AM

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Did you hear Big Ben when the guy ran onto the field? "WHERE'S James Harrison when you need him?" :yes:

James put up on twitter "if I cant play nobody can play. LIGHT outs". :yeh:

Thunderbolt 12-21-2011 09:25 PM

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Yeah I heard that, and it seems like in the past few weeks I've heard more F-bombs during the games than ever before. Funny to hear the commentators apologizing for it.

shadowmaker 12-21-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1446727)
Yeah I heard that, and it seems like in the past few weeks I've heard more F-bombs during the games than ever before. Funny to hear the commentators apologizing for it.

Thats bc they are forcing the line man to wear microphones. The refees use to wear them but Dictator Goodell decided it would more realistic for them to be on the lineman. One of them actually got fined like $15k for removing his a few weeks back bc it was bothering him. :12:

RobbyB 12-22-2011 11:08 AM

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I haven't been on the forum, because I decided that this winter I'm finishing my basement instead of rebuilding my engine. I'll be Machless for a year.

I did however, come here to gloat. GO NINERS.

Gold > Steel

I won a bet with my best friend who's a Steelers fan. For the next month, her facebook picture is her wearing a Niners jacket. Good times.

gbranton 12-22-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1445128)
If not for humanity's sake, then to protect themselves from litigation that WILL come.


Sooner than expected.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/E...njuries-122211

un gm 12-22-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kiler be (Post 1446160)
lol Your welcome. :MADNOEL:
That will cost you 2 draft picks next year. :eek:

With jerrys drafting decisions...... We'll take it.

Thunderbolt 12-22-2011 08:08 PM

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Mike Webster who was the Center for the Steelers for 15 years complained about head injuries way back 20 years ago. He sued the league or something and got compensation for it. The shots they took way back then were far worse than any injuries they say their suffering now. Imagine a guy head slapping you for 4 quarters each week, which was legal back then.

falcongtho3 12-26-2011 11:26 PM

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Looks like the Saints have the Falcons all wrapped up tonight, now for Brees to take his rightful place in history with a season long passing record. Hope it's tonight.

:borg:

jcooper0818 12-27-2011 12:14 AM

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No one wants to talk about the saints besides the Louisiana crew???!!!! Thought y'all would have more respect for greatness!

So proud this is hanging on my wall!!!
5,087 and counting!!!

Firebreed05 12-27-2011 01:29 AM

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The Saints are going to be more than a handful for everyone in the NFC playoffs. Their defense came to play tonight.

And big congrats to Drew Brees. A great athlete, a fantastic QB (that hardly gets mention amongst the Brady's and Rodgers' of the league), and an even better person. It was good to see him get the record on prime time football. Scarier yet...he's still got one game to air it out in. This record is going to stand for quite a while I have a feeling.

falcongtho3 12-27-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jcooper0818 (Post 1447742)
No one wants to talk about the saints besides the Louisiana crew???!!!!

It's no different than what we see at the college level. The talking heads on ESPN have a harder time sating 'LSU' than they do filing their taxes.
Congrats to Drew & Co. on such a great win and such an impressive accomplishment in beating the passing record. Love the post game show in the locker room...especially the the part about the equipment personel.

:borg:

NTMAREMACH 12-27-2011 08:29 AM

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Well I think the Pats will go all the way this year but only if they cancel the first half and just play the last 30 mins of the game. Don't know what there problem is in the first half. Should be a good playoff season and I can't wait.

Thunderbolt 12-27-2011 08:47 AM

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Breaking the passing record is nice, but it would'nt mean squat to me unless you win it all.

RobbyB 12-27-2011 09:21 AM

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Is it historic if you lose to the Rams and on the game you break the record, you throw two picks? Just curious.

falcongtho3 12-27-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1447782)
Is it historic if you lose to the Rams and on the game you break the record, you throw two picks? Just curious.

Considering that Marino never won a Super Bowl, and Brees already has (nearly breaking the passing record that season), I'd say...Yep!

:borg:

RobbyB 12-27-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1447799)
Considering that Marino never won a Super Bowl, and Brees already has (nearly breaking the passing record that season), I'd say...Yep!

:borg:

Oh, Sorry. I'm a Niners fan. I forgot a single super bowl was impressive to most other teams.

kiler be 12-27-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by un gm (Post 1446889)
With jerrys drafting decisions...... We'll take it.

lol....Thanks, Jerry does not get to make the picks for us.
We would like to screw that up our selves. lol

falcongtho3 12-27-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1447816)
Oh, Sorry. I'm a Niners fan. I forgot a single super bowl was impressive to most other teams.

Sorry to hear that. I'm sure there are shots or something you can take for it. You might also look at the final score of the game. For a team that threw two interceptions, I think we pretty much took them to the cleaners.

:borg:

RobbyB 12-27-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1447833)
Sorry to hear that. I'm sure there are shots or something you can take for it. You might also look at the final score of the game. For a team that threw two interceptions, I think we pretty much took them to the cleaners.

:borg:

When they go to candlestick, that running game won't be there for them and the receivers won't be that WIDE OPEN. That was a deplorable defensive effort by the Falcons.

falcongtho3 12-27-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1447835)
When they go to candlestick, that running game won't be there for them and the receivers won't be that WIDE OPEN. That was a deplorable defensive effort by the Falcons.

Yeah...let's say that...

:borg:

Firebreed05 12-27-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1447835)
When they go to candlestick, that running game won't be there for them and the receivers won't be that WIDE OPEN. That was a deplorable defensive effort by the Falcons.

I'll bet you're still bumping chests with your friends over that Pittsburgh game too, aren't you? (you know, the one with the half-crippled Steelers QB). How about that narrow escape from the Seahawks? Superbowl class effort there too. Greenbay got shut down by KC...I don't see you taking cheap shots at the Cheeseheads over it. Even great teams can flounder from time to time, even on red hot years.

And last time I checked, San Fran didn't have a better record than New Orleans. So maybe you should wait until your Niners actually accomplish something in the post-season before you spout off from the lip like a rabid gunslinger.

All we're doing here is congratulating a great QB on a great milestone. Stop being THAT GUY.


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