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jcooper0818 01-06-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450300)
I put up the play off projections on my site that I posted earlier. I won't keep putting up the URL and risk being accused of spamming lol.

There is also a chart that shows match up possibilities and who goes where for those of you that can't figure it out.

Nfl.com posted with a projection made from key statistics only that it would be the Ravens v.s Saints in the Super Bowl

RobbyB 01-06-2012 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jcooper0818 (Post 1450305)
Nfl.com posted with a projection made from key statistics only that it would be the Ravens v.s Saints in the Super Bowl

key statistics are different to different people. I've been more accurate than any human NFL analyst. Just saying.

RobbyB 01-06-2012 04:06 PM

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If you're referring to this:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...content_stream

I can punch a bunch of holes in this. Let me know if you want me to break down how worthless this is. I can break this down for you easily lol.

jcooper0818 01-06-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450308)
If you're referring to this:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...content_stream

I can punch a bunch of holes in this. Let me know if you want me to break down how worthless this is. I can break this down for you easily lol.

Go for it. I tried to find the link but couldn't. I saw it on the nfl app on my iPhone

RobbyB 01-06-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jcooper0818 (Post 1450311)
Go for it. I tried to find the link but couldn't. I saw it on the nfl app on my iPhone

Alright, one issue at a time. For starters, he's ranking everything 1-32. How does this really show how they rank? What if the average offense gains 235 yards passing, the #2 offense gains 320 yards, but the #1 offense gains 650? Yeah, I know that's ridiculous, but I'm just making my point more obvious. It's

1. Not taking into account the actual disparity between different ranks,
2. Not weighting any of the categories. Is everything equal? You can't be serious.
3. Not playing individual match ups. Best statistical teams can't always beat every team. Some bad teams match up with with 'great' teams. Consider point #1 if 3rd down defense # 12 is capable of making 3rd down offense # 3 much worse? What does that mean for defense #11 and better? Or offense # 1 and 2? In my formulas, I actually compare to league average and have no limit to how high a team can score in a category. 1 and 32 isn't enough for some things.
4. No consideration of home field advantage, current injuries
5. Where are the points/game, points allowed/game, points/drive etc,.? I thought teams with more points won? I didn't realize all points were scored in the red zone.
6. Special teams? Average starting positions?

Thunderbolt 01-06-2012 08:12 PM

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No predictions for Superbowl here. After last year's 7-9 Seattle Suckhawks butt kicking of the 'Aints, anything is possible.

np_mach1 01-06-2012 10:20 PM

Re: NFL Football Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450300)
I put up the play off projections on my site that I posted earlier. I won't keep putting up the URL and risk being accused of spamming lol.

There is also a chart that shows match up possibilities and who goes where for those of you that can't figure it out.

I checked you out, looks like you are on the same pick as earlier in the year right?

Well I have no stats to back me up on this one, going on the old gut. HAHA

np_mach1 01-06-2012 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1450355)
No predictions for Superbowl here. After last year's 7-9 Seattle Suckhawks butt kicking of the 'Aints, anything is possible.

BOOOORING! haha :teeth:

RobbyB 01-07-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1450393)
I checked you out, looks like you are on the same pick as earlier in the year right?

Well I have no stats to back me up on this one, going on the old gut. HAHA

Yeah, funny how it worked out like that. Steelers aren't getting there quite like originally projected though. #5 seed instead of #1. Good chance they'll play the Ravens at some point. That will be a tough game for both sides. I have it very, very close.

np_mach1 01-07-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450414)
Yeah, funny how it worked out like that. Steelers aren't getting there quite like originally projected though. #5 seed instead of #1. Good chance they'll play the Ravens at some point. That will be a tough game for both sides. I have it very, very close.

Burg and baltimore would make a fitting afc championship game. Wouldn't want it any other way to be honest.

RobbyB 01-07-2012 11:16 PM

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CALLED IT!!!!

45-28. I'll spam it LOL MachManRobby.BlogSpot.com

The teams games I have projected the most accurately: The Saints.

Guess who I have losing next week :)

Thunderbolt 01-08-2012 12:25 AM

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I hope they don't use that New Orleans ref crew in another Playoff game. They were friggin' blind. How does a negative rush get you a 1 yard gain and a 1st down? That one ref was 2ft. from that one TD catch that was bobbled and he called it a TD. Hilarious. The Lions had their chances though.

RobbyB 01-08-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1450567)
I hope they don't use that New Orleans ref crew in another Playoff game. They were friggin' blind. How does a negative rush get you a 1 yard gain and a 1st down? That one ref was 2ft. from that one TD catch that was bobbled and he called it a TD. Hilarious. The Lions had their chances though.

You're telling me. The Saints were BLATANTLY holding on a lot of plays. No call. Ever.

This has been happening consistently at least the last few weeks with the Saints. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist with a tin foil hat, but I swear they were doing anything to aid his record breaking passing yards.

falcongtho3 01-08-2012 07:54 AM

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Yeah, it's all a big conspiracy!?!:MADNOEL:
The Saints got off to slow and rocky start, but made the plays to bring it home. Going for it on forth down, runs when you expect passes, passes when you expect runs and poor coverage by the Lions (did you even see the wide open receivers?) helped the black and gold move on, but I will say that the Lions will be a team to watch out for next season.

:borg:

serviceman1 01-08-2012 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by np_mach1 (Post 1450541)
Burg and baltimore would make a fitting afc championship game. Wouldn't want it any other way to be honest.

good luck with that prediction chances are good the steelers will get a beat down in Denver today

MAD_MACh1 01-08-2012 11:25 AM

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As a Lions fan I do think they got hosed on a few calls. Worst one being an early wistle on the fumble. That's a 14 point swing becuase they would have ran it back and the Saints wouldn't have finished that drive. Also the spot on the 4th down play was just plain bad.

With that said if they would wrap a guy up and not try to just knock them down they might actually make a tackle or two. The Saints just wore out the defence at the end. The final should have been much closer than it was. Tackle drills from now it opening day for those guys.

stang8092 01-08-2012 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by serviceman1 (Post 1450607)
good luck with that prediction chances are good the steelers will get a beat down in Denver today

True story...Broncos have nothing to lose. Either way, my Denver flag will remain flying outside my house.

The Rapist vs Jesus Jr showdown.

RobbyB 01-08-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MAD_MACh1 (Post 1450625)
As a Lions fan I do think they got hosed on a few calls. Worst one being an early wistle on the fumble. That's a 14 point swing becuase they would have ran it back and the Saints wouldn't have finished that drive. Also the spot on the 4th down play was just plain bad.

With that said if they would wrap a guy up and not try to just knock them down they might actually make a tackle or two. The Saints just wore out the defence at the end. The final should have been much closer than it was. Tackle drills from now it opening day for those guys.

Yeah, a lot of atrocious tackling by the Lions. Saints won't have that luxury next week.

Thunderbolt 01-08-2012 12:09 PM

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:31: Yeah, the Brokback Broncos got nothing to lose, but when they don't have any kind of offense how the hell are they suppose to win? Tebow throws an accurate pass about 1 every 10 throws, and do you really think McGahee is gonna run all over the Pitt defense? The only way Denver has a chance is if Pitt has 5 turnovers.

stang8092 01-08-2012 12:18 PM

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I guess it will all depends on the performance of the 4th most sacked QB in league...on one good wheel. I see him coughing up the ball once in the pocket...maybe an INT or two.

RobbyB 01-08-2012 01:10 PM

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The Steelers will crush the joke of an offense that is Denver.

gbranton 01-08-2012 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by serviceman1 (Post 1450607)
good luck with that prediction chances are good the steelers will get a beat down in Denver today

Well it's 14-6 Broncos now. Whatever happens from here on out I doubt you'll be able to call this a beatdown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1450637)
Tebow throws an accurate pass about 1 every 10 throws.

Tell that to the team that just gave up three 50+ yard passing plays in one quarter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450657)
The Steelers will crush the joke of an offense that is Denver.

Uh huh.

falcongtho3 01-08-2012 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450714)
Well it's 14-6 Broncos now. Whatever happens from here on out I doubt you'll be able to call this a beatdown.

Tell that to the team that just gave up three 50+ yard passing plays in one quarter.

Uh huh.


Be nice now...these are experts we're dealing with after all.

Kinda like all of those Mach 1 'experts' out there...

:borg:

Thunderbolt 01-08-2012 06:26 PM

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:surprise: Murphy's Law. We'll see what happens in the 2nd half. If they lose it'll be the worst Playoff loss I've seen them play in almost 40 years. It would be an even bigger disgrace than last years Suckhawks-'Aints game. I'm sure their were no experts in that game either. (I even thought the Suckhawks had no chance)

RobbyB 01-08-2012 07:09 PM

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If Denver wins this game, I will happily admit I was wrong.

I do after all want them to win, despite giving them no chance to do so.

gbranton 01-08-2012 07:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450728)
If Denver wins this game, I will happily admit I was wrong.

So go ahead and admit it because you are already wrong. The Steelers may win but they DIDN'T "crush" the Broncos and the Broncos aren't a "joke".

kiler be 01-08-2012 08:06 PM

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:surprise: Denver. So much for that by week. lol


Oh my...........Its over.

falcongtho3 01-08-2012 08:09 PM

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Pittsburg got "Tebow'd"!!

:borg:

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:09 PM

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6.8 yards per play on offense in regulation. I'm sure that figure went up a little after the one and only play of the overtime period. The "joke" is on the Steelers.

punishermach 01-08-2012 08:09 PM

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tebow time ftw!!!!!

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1450742)
Pittsburg got "Tebow'd"!!

:borg:

Tebow drops 316 on the Steelers!

RobbyB 01-08-2012 08:12 PM

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The joke tonight was the Steelers defense. They played horribly, which I'm ok with.

Good job Denver and GOOD BYE Steelers.

That's why you play the games.

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450748)
The joke tonight was the Steelers defense. They played horribly, which I'm ok with.

Good job Denver and GOOD BYE Steelers.

That's why you play the games.


I still don't see that word you promised.......... you know the one, it begins with a "w" but sounds like and "r". It rhymes with long.

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:16 PM

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I'm still waiting for Antonio Brown to strike another pose for us, just like he did every time he caught a pass no matter how far behind his team was. I guess I'll have to wait until next year.

un gm 01-08-2012 08:17 PM

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Ohhhh noooo. Steelers forgot to win the game AGAIN. Hope Tebow prays extra hard this week. He's gonna need another answered prayer.

RobbyB 01-08-2012 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450750)
I still don't see that word you promised.......... you know the one, it begins with a "w" but sounds like and "r". It rhymes with long.

I was wrong

About the outcome of the game. Your offense, however, is still a joke and time will prove this.

RobbyB 01-08-2012 08:27 PM

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Steelers fans have lost all right to talk smack for the next year.

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyB (Post 1450756)
I was wrong

About the outcome of the game. Your offense, however, is still a joke and time will prove this.

Whatever. That offense is still in the playoffs. And it's not "my" offense. I'm a Bears fan but since they stink I'll root for the Florida Gator or anyone else playing the Steelers.

Big Ron 01-08-2012 08:33 PM

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Can't wait for the Giants vs Packers next week.

Go Texans!:COOL:






Big Ron :D

Thunderbolt 01-08-2012 08:33 PM

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Nom nom nom nom. Alittle ketchup and salt and my words don't taste that bad. I'm still stunned. :bigeyes:

RobbyB 01-08-2012 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450759)
Whatever. That offense is still in the playoffs. And it's not "my" offense. I'm a Bears fan but since they stink I'll root for the Florida Gator or anyone else playing the Steelers.

They got in the play offs by winning the 2010 NFC West. Wait, I mean the 2011 AFC West. Same thing. They'll be out after next week.

I just assumed you were a Tebow fan. I hate the Steelers too. Bears were doing good until Cutler broke his thumb.

65fastback2+2 01-08-2012 08:54 PM

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so glad the squeelers got sent home!

there isnt a team I hate more.

gbranton 01-08-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt (Post 1450765)
I'm still stunned. :bigeyes:

I think you're not the only one...

serviceman1 01-08-2012 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stang8092 (Post 1450630)
True story...Broncos have nothing to lose. Either way, my Denver flag will remain flying outside my house.

The Rapist vs Jesus Jr showdown.

That flag will be burned next week

kiler be 01-08-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450774)
I think you're not the only one...

:laugh: There are a lot of people that looked like that after the game.

gbranton 01-08-2012 09:07 PM

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Oh and by the way..... was it just me or did the Giants look kind of scary? Like a team that could go on a run and end up in the NFC title game or Superbowl?

stang8092 01-08-2012 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by serviceman1 (Post 1450775)
That flag will be burned next week


I'm happy Denver even made it to the Playoffs after 6 years (where they beat the Pats).

Pats didn't beat Denver last month, they beat themselves with TOs. They ran up & down the field on them before self destructing.

If Brady wins...he'll be an astounding 3-6 vs. Denver. :rolleyes:

Thunderbolt 01-08-2012 09:14 PM

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The only silver lining to today was I have Manning/Nicks in my Fantasy Football and also Tebow/ McGahee and Decker. :31: I lost Heath Miller.

kiler be 01-08-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450782)
Oh and by the way..... was it just me or did the Giants look kind of scary? Like a team that could go on a run and end up in the NFC title game or Superbowl?

I thought the same thing. Reminds me of the last time they won the Superbowl.
Played so,so all year and got on a roll in the playoffs.

falcongtho3 01-08-2012 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbranton (Post 1450782)
Oh and by the way..... was it just me or did the Giants look kind of scary? Like a team that could go on a run and end up in the NFC title game or Superbowl?

They did look good, but they probably have a Saints team to look forward to in the Dome in the very near future...and that will be the end of that problem.

:borg:


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