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I'm not going to say that Eli is not a good qb or the leader to this Giants team. He is both. However, Eli is not a great qb. He is very solid but far from great. He is part of the puzzle of a VERY GOOD team. I don't think he makes those around him greater. Another qb like him would be Roethlessburger(hate him) in Pittsburgh(hate the team as well). He's far from great, but solid and a part of the puzzle. However, like Roetlessburger he is showing an ability to not get rattled and do something good in a key moment of the game. A qb that I would say is having a great year and is the best in the NFL right now is Drew Brees. This guy looses his running game, his top receiver, then his tight end, then another receiver, then another running back and he still puts up great numbers. He is making those around him better. He may not be winning like Eli, but then Eli don't have the defense that Bree's does. |
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I agree that Eli is a solid piece of a great team made up of merely good parts. Part of the credit would have to go to the coaching staff, they are a well coached team.
For all the talk about Tony Romo, he is a very average quarterback and he cannot save a team that is struggling in many areas of the game right now. Maybe even more important are the personalities on this team, I don't think they are a great recipe for a winning team. They are great front runners but they SUCK under adverse conditions. +1 for the Drew Brees comment. I likewise am not a Saints fan, but they have got the qb in the league right now. |
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You are truly delusional. |
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Little Robbie is in the 5th grade.
> Yesterday morning when the teacher asked the children what > their fathers did for a living. > All the typical answers came up; fireman, policeman, > salesman, etc. > The teacher noticed that little Robbie was being > uncharacteristically quiet and so she asked him about his father. > > 'My father's an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes off all his > clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer's really good, > he'll go out to the alley with some guy and do it with him for money.' > > The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, > hurriedly set the other children to work on some coloring, and took > little Robbie aside to ask him, 'Is that really true about your father?' > > 'No,' said Robbie, "He plays for the Detroit Lions, but I was too > embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids." |
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Brett Favre 61.6% completion % 1.52 TD's per INT thrown Tony Romo 64.6% completion % 1.86 TD's per INT thrown weird...oddly very similar Farve has 1 superbowl for the 17 years he has played. If Romo has less championships in 17 years of his career....then I'll believe you |
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Career Brett Farve: Honors and awards Favre has won the Associated Press's MVP Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award three times, all in consecutive years (1995, 1996, and 1997; the last shared with Barry Sanders). In 1999, he was ranked number 82 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. In 2005, TSN published another special feature honoring the 50 Greatest Quarterbacks. With his career statistics considerably augmented, Favre was ranked number 4, behind Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and John Elway, and just ahead of previous Packer quarterback legend Bart Starr. Favre was named the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 2007. Favre has been selected to play in the Pro Bowl nine times in his career. Favre is a six-time All-Pro selection. Favre was named to the NFL 1990s All-Decade Team. Has received the NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 12 times. Records and milestones Favre currently possesses most of the well-known NFL career records for quarterbacks, including: Most AP NFL MVP awards: 3 (1995, 1996, 1997) Most consecutive starts by a quarterback (NFL): 261 (283 including playoffs) Most wins by a starting quarterback (NFL) regular season career: 165(Regular season record: 165-96) Most career passing touchdowns: 457 Most career passing yards: 63,467 Most career pass completions: 5,557 Most career pass attempts: 9,021 Most career interceptions thrown: 300 Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 65 (2nd) Most career playoff pass completions: 438 (Montana, 460) (2nd) Most career playoff pass attempts: 721 (Montana, 734) (2nd) Most career playoff passing yards: 5,311 (Montana, 5,772) (2nd) Most career playoff passing touchdowns: 39 (Montana, 45) (Tied 1st) Most career playoff interceptions thrown: 28 (Jim Kelly, 28) (Tied 1st) Most career playoff losses as starting QB: 10 (Dan Marino, 10) Favre's 261 consecutive starts trails only Jim Marshall's 270 consecutive starts as the longest such streak among players at any position. In the playoffs, Favre stands behind only Joe Montana in pass completions, passing touchdowns, passing yards and passing attempts. In addition, Favre owns a number of team records, having printed his name into almost every passing category in the annals of Green Bay Packers history. With 38 "come-from-behind" 4th quarter wins & 2 more overtime victories, Brett Favre is the Green Bay Packers record holder and second only to John Elway's 47 4th quarter or OT "come-back wins", in NFL history. Consecutive starts streak Brett Favre started every game his team played from their game against the Pittsburgh Steelers on September 27, 1992. He is currently in first place for the most consecutive starts by a quarterback in the NFL and one of only five quarterbacks to have started over 100 consecutive games in NFL history. Tony Romo: Two Pro Bowl appearances. Holds Cowboys team record for 300 yd games. Weird, not oddly similar. |
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By the way, Romo is in his fifth season and after five seasons Farve had been to the Pro Bowl four times and MVP twice. Romo has been to the Pro Bowl twice.
I edited my above post to be fair and include TR's two pro bowls and the one team record I can find. I don't think he's awful, I just think it's an absurd comparison. I really can't believe I am doing this, defending Farve. I hate the Packers. |
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Tonights game on NFL Network Brownings and Denver I take Denver:smokin:
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Actually I think this is going to be a close game. Denver is pathetic right now. But come to think of it so are my Browns. :23: |
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I don't care who wins, I just got my HD system hooked up and I am dying to see a game, any game. Right now I am watching a replay of the Bills game just to see a game. |
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heres one farve fact I found interesting since everyone wants to call romo the playoff "choker"....favre: Most career playoff losses as starting QB: 10 (Dan Marino, 10) |
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Think about what playoff losses mean...you can only get one each year. If you don't get one, you either didn't make the playoffs or you got a SB ring. |
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"well, maybe favre can get the jets into the playoffs this year, but he'll prolly choke just like the last 10 times" |
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