whipple, KB, eaton?
ok..after 8 years of enjoying my Mach, i'm at the point where i think i'm finally ready to take the PD "blower" plunge...
this is a 23k mile, stick "toy", no d/d responsibilities, BBK long tubes, 4:10's and all the usual bolt ons... i'm not looking for a million horsepower, maybe 450 ish..and i DO NOT want to take motor apart... lets assume money isn't an issue:frown: (even though it is!!!) what setup is netting the best results with the least amount of aggravation? thanks for any input! |
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1) kb doesnt make kits anymore, I saw something about ford stopped making the lower intake pieces they needed
2) whipple - have to do a full eaton swap then buy the whipple kit VMP does have a TVS coming for the terminators, it would probably work as well the eaton should get you to 450 though |
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I would say eaton swap if you only want 450ish. 450 is safe on a stock motor with a good tune like with any stock motor car. 4.10 maybe alittle much of a gear for a pd blower unless you have some good dr but still goin to be all over the place I think. I think a Whipple with a eaton swap or a Kb would be over kill on a stock motor. A vortech would love a 4.10 gear and sound great ay idle.
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Not to steer you away from a manifold blower, but have you also thought about centrifugals? If you want reliablity an eaton swap or a centrifugal with a very very safe tune can yield 430-450hp. It depends on your tuner and how safe you run it, 8psi as i sure you know is secure.
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I would say Whipple
I've talked it over a few times before and have thought about doing it for awhile now, but i'm thinking down the road i want to take the procharger off an do a whipple s/c on mine. the thing is that if i was going with a KB, i would want a 2.2 and up one, well with that, i would have to do the other little parts i would also need if i was going to a whipple, for budget wise a eaton swap is best bang for the buck ASh |
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i thought for use to do a whipple set up. We have to basically do a eaton swap kit and then order the whipple to throw it on there, what i also thought that to do a KB 2.2 and up you had to do a eaton wap and then could do a KB2.2 and up ASh |
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EDIT(now that i'm on a comp and not my phone): the forging of the bottom end only builds strength against power. not strength against bad tunes and ****ups. not even kryptonite will save you then. a correctly setup boosted car will reliably produce 420 easily, 450 depending on setup. and i mean reliably. i know 2 cars locally that have been boosted for over 100k miles now. only extra maintenance has been, of course, head unit rebuilds. |
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These stock engines have extremely soft rotating assemblys, and if you plan on pushing 125+ more horsepower, and pressures, than what they were intended for, you better have an insurance policy in the form of some decent rods and pistons, and that's a fact. Sure some people can walk that razors edge and get away with it, just like I'm still running the stock TR3650 tranny, after all the so-called experts claimed it would disintegrate under the kind of power I'm producing, but that doesn't make it the norm. You're exactly the kind of person I wouldn't let touch my car with a 10 foot pole! |
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Btw, I've noticed there's alot of "can't be done" stuff in your posts/replies. I'm sure your car rocks, but I wouldn't say that you are the "final" word by no means. |
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