Performance rotor/pads suggestions - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

AzureMach1auto · 03-15-2010, 05:36 PM

I had an alignment done the other day and the shop told me my rotors are too thin to turn and my brakes probably will not pass safety inspection at the end of the month. Then gave me some crazy estimate for all of it, I told them I do my own work and thanks for the info.

Anyway, I was wondering about crossdrilled or slotted since they need replacing.

Anybody suggest a particular brand of rotor and front brakes?
Should I just get OEM style?
Are there any pros/cons with slotted or drilled??

I don't do any track driving. Just do a couple drag days a year with my local Mustang club.

Mudd92 · 03-15-2010, 06:23 PM

Well I, and alot of other guys have been buying some rotorpro's for a really good deal (all 4) I chose EBC pads.

TRmachwon · 03-15-2010, 07:03 PM

Drilled/slotted is a gimick and will just reduce rotor integrity if anything. Go with OEM (brembo) blank replacements. Tirerack sells them. They aren't cheap. Hawk HPS pads are probably your best bet for a performance street pad, though I've heard good things about EBC pads.

DSPTurtle · 03-15-2010, 07:17 PM

Slotted Brembo's (from tirerack.com) and Porterfield R4S pads FTW!!! Drilled rotors tend to microcrack around the holes. One of my cars has drilled as the only option and it is always a concern. Slotted does nothing to reduce the integrity of the rotor but makes a boatload of difference when driving in the rain since it can shed the water quicker (the theory of cleaning the pad/allowing pad gasses to vent works well for wet rotors also). I have heard great things about Powerslot slotted rotors but no firsthand experience.

MY MONSTER · 03-15-2010, 07:54 PM

I just replaced (literally) all four rotors and pads for $226.00 shipped from Rotorpros.net after hearing about them from this forum. I went with the slotted rotors just for kicks. I did bed them in as suggested, I couldn't believe the smoke that came off of them.

rich1 · 03-15-2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSPTurtle

Slotted Brembo's (from tirerack.com) and Porterfield R4S pads FTW!!! Drilled rotors tend to microcrack around the holes. One of my cars has drilled as the only option and it is always a concern. Slotted does nothing to reduce the integrity of the rotor but makes a boatload of difference when driving in the rain since it can shed the water quicker (the theory of cleaning the pad/allowing pad gasses to vent works well for wet rotors also). I have heard great things about Powerslot slotted rotors but no firsthand experience.

Just a little info ..

..ANY Rotor can crack .

..
(If it was just a case of the style of rotor used everyone would be using the same ones ...they do not...Drag racing,Road racing and HP street cars brakes differ. Most suffer from abuse or mis-application ) Solid ..Drilled ...Slotted...Both !.. Solid rotors cannot vent the gases well off the rotors . Drilled rotors are not bad if drilled properly or the holes are cast into rotors. Slotted rotors are ok but will warp if overheated. The general rule is control the heat ! Heat is what cracks rotors . Use the proper pad material on the discs and run vents to the rotors. Also the larger the brakes used for the car, the less they have to work ...less heat less problems.Different disc materials can also make a differance too. Cars makers put just enough braking power to stop a Stock car .If the car is modded and made faster the brakes need to be upgraded too. I like Brembo and have not had any of these problems .

bris09 · 03-15-2010, 08:06 PM

I went with the Powerslots and Hawk pads. Noticed a difference in braking and have no signs of warping after close to 20K miles.

Lonestar7 · 03-15-2010, 08:13 PM

I second Brembo sloted! I have them with ceramic pads and the Cobra R calipers car really stops well.

LS

birdman941 · 03-15-2010, 08:33 PM

I am trying to put together a M1R brake deal along with Joe Charles,
if you want to stay OEM Ford/FRPP/Motorcraft.

Personally I am not a fan of slotted/drilled rotors.

3150Mach1 · 03-15-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

I am trying to put together a M1R brake deal along with Joe Charles,
if you want to stay OEM Ford/FRPP/Motorcraft.

Personally I am not a fan of slotted/drilled rotors.

I bought the excat OEM front pads from joe. The part number is: F5ZZ-2001-A. But I paired them with some slotted and drilled rotors from Baer.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...29&postcount=1

AzureMach1auto · 03-15-2010, 10:15 PM

Wow. All these post were very helpful. I have to get all this within 2 weeks so I can get it installed and inspected.

I'll do some research on pricing and look at braided brake lines too. From the looks I'll stick with Brembo replacements and Hawk or EBC pads. Thanks all.
Now I just got to look at the sticky on installing it.

Any suggestions on braided lines? Is it worth it?

bakers03 · 03-15-2010, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

I am trying to put together a M1R brake deal along with Joe Charles,
if you want to stay OEM Ford/FRPP/Motorcraft.

Personally I am not a fan of slotted/drilled rotors.

Please pm me if ya do this....I was going to give joe a call for f/r rotors and pads in the next week.

2k4mach · 03-15-2010, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich1

Just a little info ..

..ANY Rotor can crack .

..
(If it was just a case of the style of rotor used everyone would be using the same ones ...they do not...Drag racing,Road racing and HP street cars brakes differ. Most suffer from abuse or mis-application ) Solid ..Drilled ...Slotted...Both !.. Solid rotors cannot vent the gases well off the rotors . Drilled rotors are not bad if drilled properly or the holes are cast into rotors. Slotted rotors are ok but will warp if overheated. The general rule is control the heat ! Heat is what cracks rotors . Use the proper pad material on the discs and run vents to the rotors. Also the larger the brakes used for the car, the less they have to work ...less heat less problems.Different disc materials can also make a differance too. Cars makers put just enough braking power to stop a Stock car .If the car is modded and made faster the brakes need to be upgraded too. I like Brembo and have not had any of these problems .

+1 on that.

funny how many people just automatically assume drilled rotors will crack.

3150Mach1 · 03-16-2010, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzureMach1auto

Wow. All these post were very helpful. I have to get all this within 2 weeks so I can get it installed and inspected.

I'll do some research on pricing and look at braided brake lines too. From the looks I'll stick with Brembo replacements and Hawk or EBC pads. Thanks all.
Now I just got to look at the sticky on installing it.

Any suggestions on braided lines? Is it worth it?

I would still strongly suggest the OEM pads for DD.

SS lines - Got my fronts here:
http://www.speedconcepts.net/product...roducts_id=231

DSPTurtle · 03-16-2010, 02:54 PM

I installed the Goodridge braided lines (again from Tirerack) a few months back and I love the feel. But then again, I changed the fluid at the same time to ATE super blue brake fluid. That combo, paired with the R4S pad definitely changed the braking characteristics of the car for the better.

MikesMach · 04-25-2010, 09:10 AM

Do the brake lines. Makes a real difference in the feel of the pedal - much more solid, easier to modulate at the limit

ASH302 · 04-25-2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03Mach150BP

SS lines - Got my fronts here:
http://www.speedconcepts.net/product...roducts_id=231

i was looking for some, found steeda has some. this isn't a bad price what so ever, thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSPTurtle

I installed the Goodridge braided lines (again from Tirerack) a few months back and I love the feel. But then again, I changed the fluid at the same time to ATE super blue brake fluid.

This might not be a bad ideal to do it all at the same time the line lock, braided lines and change the brake fluid. might make it easier in the long run. thanks

PeteEpple · 04-26-2010, 12:06 AM

I have DBA rotors and Hawk HP Plus pads with stainless braided lines and Amsoil fluid... I also have Kenny Brown brake coolers up front and they are by far the best brakes I've ever had! my only complaint is the brake dust is bad with those pads...

ASH302 · 04-26-2010, 03:26 AM

i hate brake dust

G · 04-26-2010, 08:15 PM

I'm doing rotorpros in a few days. I need to paint the calipers too. Sounds like the hot rod will sit outside for a weekend to get this done. I have rotorpros parts on the hot rod too.

03-15-2010, 05:36 PM	#1
AzureMach1auto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 802	Performance rotor/pads suggestions I had an alignment done the other day and the shop told me my rotors are too thin to turn and my brakes probably will not pass safety inspection at the end of the month. Then gave me some crazy estimate for all of it, I told them I do my own work and thanks for the info. Anyway, I was wondering about crossdrilled or slotted since they need replacing. Anybody suggest a particular brand of rotor and front brakes? Should I just get OEM style? Are there any pros/cons with slotted or drilled?? I don't do any track driving. Just do a couple drag days a year with my local Mustang club. __________________ '03 Azure Mach 1: auto., IUP, JLT CAI. BUILD DATE:02/03/2003 Purchased: 01/02/07 '94 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL: 5-speed '87 IROC-Z: Crate 320rwhp Vortec T.P.I., many mods

03-15-2010, 06:23 PM	#2
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions Well I, and alot of other guys have been buying some rotorpro's for a really good deal (all 4) I chose EBC pads. __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

03-15-2010, 07:03 PM	#3
TRmachwon Parking Lot Racer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 790	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions Drilled/slotted is a gimick and will just reduce rotor integrity if anything. Go with OEM (brembo) blank replacements. Tirerack sells them. They aren't cheap. Hawk HPS pads are probably your best bet for a performance street pad, though I've heard good things about EBC pads. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Maximum Motorsports Equipped

03-15-2010, 07:17 PM	#4
DSPTurtle DIY Knuckle Buster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Viera, FL Posts: 244	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions Slotted Brembo's (from tirerack.com) and Porterfield R4S pads FTW!!! Drilled rotors tend to microcrack around the holes. One of my cars has drilled as the only option and it is always a concern. Slotted does nothing to reduce the integrity of the rotor but makes a boatload of difference when driving in the rain since it can shed the water quicker (the theory of cleaning the pad/allowing pad gasses to vent works well for wet rotors also). I have heard great things about Powerslot slotted rotors but no firsthand experience. Attached Thumbnails __________________ JB 2003 Mach 1 - Azure/5 Speed 1985 930S - Factory Slope 1983 944 - DE Car 2004 Cayenne - Family Tow Vehicle

03-15-2010, 07:54 PM	#5
MY MONSTER Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MCAS Cherry Point, NC Posts: 106	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I just replaced (literally) all four rotors and pads for $226.00 shipped from Rotorpros.net after hearing about them from this forum. I went with the slotted rotors just for kicks. I did bed them in as suggested, I couldn't believe the smoke that came off of them. __________________ 8.42 @ 85.54...1/8th 12.98 @ 107.13...1/4 on stock tires + 1/2 tank of gas... "Ya baby, I'll leave this one stock, promise! Ya, my fingers were crossed..."

03-15-2010, 08:06 PM	#7
bris09 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Middletown, PA Posts: 3,992	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I went with the Powerslots and Hawk pads. Noticed a difference in braking and have no signs of warping after close to 20K miles. __________________ Brian 04 Azure Mach 1 Mods: Enough to not be the slowest, but nowhere near enough to be the fastest. 17 Fusion Sport Now faster than the Mach 96 Laser Red Cobra Vert For those days you just wanna cruise with the top down 89 Shelby CSX Still rocking the VNT and Fiberides.

03-15-2010, 08:13 PM	#8
Lonestar7 Guest Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,152	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I second Brembo sloted! I have them with ceramic pads and the Cobra R calipers car really stops well. LS

03-15-2010, 08:33 PM	#9
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I am trying to put together a M1R brake deal along with Joe Charles, if you want to stay OEM Ford/FRPP/Motorcraft. Personally I am not a fan of slotted/drilled rotors. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

03-15-2010, 10:15 PM	#11
AzureMach1auto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 802	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions Wow. All these post were very helpful. I have to get all this within 2 weeks so I can get it installed and inspected. I'll do some research on pricing and look at braided brake lines too. From the looks I'll stick with Brembo replacements and Hawk or EBC pads. Thanks all. Now I just got to look at the sticky on installing it. Any suggestions on braided lines? Is it worth it? __________________ '03 Azure Mach 1: auto., IUP, JLT CAI. BUILD DATE:02/03/2003 Purchased: 01/02/07 '94 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL: 5-speed '87 IROC-Z: Crate 320rwhp Vortec T.P.I., many mods

03-16-2010, 02:54 PM	#15
DSPTurtle DIY Knuckle Buster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Viera, FL Posts: 244	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I installed the Goodridge braided lines (again from Tirerack) a few months back and I love the feel. But then again, I changed the fluid at the same time to ATE super blue brake fluid. That combo, paired with the R4S pad definitely changed the braking characteristics of the car for the better. __________________ JB 2003 Mach 1 - Azure/5 Speed 1985 930S - Factory Slope 1983 944 - DE Car 2004 Cayenne - Family Tow Vehicle

04-25-2010, 09:10 AM	#16
MikesMach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 10	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions Do the brake lines. Makes a real difference in the feel of the pedal - much more solid, easier to modulate at the limit __________________ Borla Cat Back Roush Stage 3 Suspension Roush Offset Steering Rack Bushings Steeda Strut Tower Brace Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter K&N Filtercharger RotorPro Cross Drilled and Slotted EBC Yellow Stuff pads

04-26-2010, 12:06 AM	#18
PeteEpple Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 738	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I have DBA rotors and Hawk HP Plus pads with stainless braided lines and Amsoil fluid... I also have Kenny Brown brake coolers up front and they are by far the best brakes I've ever had! my only complaint is the brake dust is bad with those pads...

04-26-2010, 03:26 AM	#19
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions i hate brake dust __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

04-26-2010, 08:15 PM	#20
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: Performance rotor/pads suggestions I'm doing rotorpros in a few days. I need to paint the calipers too. Sounds like the hot rod will sit outside for a weekend to get this done. I have rotorpros parts on the hot rod too. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

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