lower and upper control arms - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

shakn · 01-09-2014, 04:51 PM

Hey guys I was wondering witch brand i should go with for my control arms. Hotchkis, QA1, or maximum motor sport. My mach is my DD, i just do a little of street racing

. Im looking for something thats built with good quality and will last a good long time, so if you guys know of something better let me know. Im also installing H&R Race Springs along with Bilstein shocks/struts.

j rick kirby · 01-10-2014, 07:31 AM

Stock uppers and MM standard duty lowers and don't let anyone tell you any different but you will get plenty of opinions.

96gt02 · 01-10-2014, 09:24 AM

I really like the steeda 3 part bushing control arms, the MM ones are also very similar and good, Whatever you get just make sure it has a 3 piece bushing on the chassis side as most do not.

Tommy Z · 01-10-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by j rick kirby

Stock uppers and MM standard duty lowers and don't let anyone tell you any different but you will get plenty of opinions.

Yup, this guy knows. Or if you can swing it, I'd go MM lowers, remove one stock upper control arm, and add the MM panhard bar.

TKat13 · 01-10-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by j rick kirby

Stock uppers and MM standard duty lowers and don't let anyone tell you any different but you will get plenty of opinions.

I went with the same recipe but change one ingredient, I used Wolfe race craft lowers.

311-420 · 01-10-2014, 02:50 PM

I'm running stock uppers and MM heavy duty lowers.

TKat13 · 01-10-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 311-420

I'm running stock uppers and MM heavy duty lowers.

those are great lowers as well.

fastlane · 01-10-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by j rick kirby

Stock uppers and MM standard duty lowers and don't let anyone tell you any different but you will get plenty of opinions.

This is a great recipe for decent all around performance.

When I replaced my control arms, I went with CHE Performance lowers, uppers, and aluminum spherical rear end housing bushings. It was a big difference over stock and had great straight line performance. The lateral grip was decent as well but it would step out hard to either side with very little warning. Way too much binding in the suspension. I am ditching the uppers all together as soon as I can install my MM panhard bar and torque arm.

311-420 · 01-10-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fastlane

This is a great recipe for decent all around performance.

When I replaced my control arms, I went with CHE Performance lowers, uppers, and aluminum spherical rear end housing bushings. It was a big difference over stock and had great straight line performance. The lateral grip was decent as well but it would step out hard to either side with very little warning. Way too much binding in the suspension. I am ditching the uppers all together as soon as I can install my MM panhard bar and torque arm.

And that's why MM recommends leaving the stock uppers in place.

311-420 · 01-10-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TKat13

those are great lowers as well.

My car will not fish tail anymore, whatsoever, with these lowers. Found that out last week when I was intentionally trying to get sloppy. Car wouldn't do it.

shakn · 01-12-2014, 04:07 AM

Well sounds good guys thanks for the info...only doing lower control arms then... im going with MM

http://www.americanmuscle.com/maximu...rms-99-04.html

not a gt · 01-12-2014, 11:00 AM

Well, as usual I guess I am the dumba** with UPR upper and lowers, so as usual I have bought the wrong s***, are you guys using the MM stock uppers or your ACTUAL "came with the car" uppers?? If actual, did you cahnbe bushings on them?? How about some part #'s, guess I will make due with what I have for now.

Wonder if I could get away with putting stock uppers back in (or the MM stock uppers since mine had 100,000 miles when removed), and just leave the UPR lowers, though some of the stuff be described I haven't experienced (or have and just don't know it), all mine does driving down the road is it seems to want to wander, at the track it spins so who know what is going on back there??

WalkrTexasRngr · 01-12-2014, 11:06 AM

The ones that came on the car from the factory. The stock uppers MM sells are stock motorcraft ones I think.

not a gt · 01-12-2014, 11:14 AM

I was just on there website looking, my stock one's rubbers are slap wore out. Guess this will have to wait, I JUST put on the UPR stuff last spring (this was also part of the wasted money when I put the UPR rear coilover kit and took off a week later

mach1z · 01-12-2014, 02:04 PM

Nothing wrong with UPR rear suspension. Are you having problems or just itching to spend more?

not a gt · 01-12-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mach1z

Nothing wrong with UPR rear suspension. Are you having problems or just itching to spend more?

No seems to be fine, I just read post and others get me paranoid, I don't know enough to know if it isn't working right lol.

311-420 · 01-12-2014, 03:31 PM

Original factory uppers with mm heavy duty lowers. My uppers are slightly dry rotted, but nothing major.

I'd look for a stock take off pair of uppers with low miles. They go for cheap on here all the time.

mach1z · 01-12-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by not a gt

No seems to be fine, I just read post and others get me paranoid, I don't know enough to know if it isn't working right lol.

You will be fine.

01-09-2014, 04:51 PM	#1
shakn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 92	lower and upper control arms Hey guys I was wondering witch brand i should go with for my control arms. Hotchkis, QA1, or maximum motor sport. My mach is my DD, i just do a little of street racing . Im looking for something thats built with good quality and will last a good long time, so if you guys know of something better let me know. Im also installing H&R Race Springs along with Bilstein shocks/struts. __________________ shakn, not stirred

01-10-2014, 07:31 AM	#2
j rick kirby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 1,802	Re: lower and upper control arms Stock uppers and MM standard duty lowers and don't let anyone tell you any different but you will get plenty of opinions. __________________ 2003 Azure mach1 5 speed with IUP Maximum Motorsports R&T Box with Torque Arm and lots of other bits and pieces here and there 2012 Candy Red Metalic Premium GT with Brembo/Trak Pak and 373s HPDE Instructor

01-10-2014, 09:24 AM	#3
96gt02 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 442	Re: lower and upper control arms I really like the steeda 3 part bushing control arms, the MM ones are also very similar and good, Whatever you get just make sure it has a 3 piece bushing on the chassis side as most do not.

01-10-2014, 02:50 PM	#6
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: lower and upper control arms I'm running stock uppers and MM heavy duty lowers. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

01-12-2014, 04:07 AM	#11
shakn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 92	Re: lower and upper control arms Well sounds good guys thanks for the info...only doing lower control arms then... im going with MM http://www.americanmuscle.com/maximu...rms-99-04.html __________________ shakn, not stirred

01-12-2014, 11:00 AM	#12
not a gt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waaayy out in the country,leave your GPS at home! Posts: 4,825	Re: lower and upper control arms Well, as usual I guess I am the dumba with UPR upper and lowers, so as usual I have bought the wrong s, are you guys using the MM stock uppers or your ACTUAL "came with the car" uppers?? If actual, did you cahnbe bushings on them?? How about some part #'s, guess I will make due with what I have for now. Wonder if I could get away with putting stock uppers back in (or the MM stock uppers since mine had 100,000 miles when removed), and just leave the UPR lowers, though some of the stuff be described I haven't experienced (or have and just don't know it), all mine does driving down the road is it seems to want to wander, at the track it spins so who know what is going on back there?? __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1-03 Cobra Term/T56 swap: 2.3L Whipple,3.37 Upper,4 lb.lower, ID 1000 injectors,LCD cooling mod,Billetflow idlers,200A Alt,oil cooler delete with MMR adapter plate,MM oil filter kit,FrozenBoost Heat Exchanger Flowtech L.T., Maganaflow O/R X with Magnapacks, FRRP D.S.,T-56 with 26 spline input shaft and anti venom mod with reverse lockout box, FR steel flywheel,Spec Stage 3+,Moser 31 spline axles,FR 3.73 gear Tuned by B.Kurgan* 601Hp/558/Tq

01-12-2014, 11:06 AM	#13
WalkrTexasRngr 2003 AB Mach 1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SW Pennsylvania Posts: 872	The ones that came on the car from the factory. The stock uppers MM sells are stock motorcraft ones I think.

01-12-2014, 11:14 AM	#14
not a gt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waaayy out in the country,leave your GPS at home! Posts: 4,825	Re: lower and upper control arms I was just on there website looking, my stock one's rubbers are slap wore out. Guess this will have to wait, I JUST put on the UPR stuff last spring (this was also part of the wasted money when I put the UPR rear coilover kit and took off a week later __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1-03 Cobra Term/T56 swap: 2.3L Whipple,3.37 Upper,4 lb.lower, ID 1000 injectors,LCD cooling mod,Billetflow idlers,200A Alt,oil cooler delete with MMR adapter plate,MM oil filter kit,FrozenBoost Heat Exchanger Flowtech L.T., Maganaflow O/R X with Magnapacks, FRRP D.S.,T-56 with 26 spline input shaft and anti venom mod with reverse lockout box, FR steel flywheel,Spec Stage 3+,Moser 31 spline axles,FR 3.73 gear Tuned by B.Kurgan 601Hp/558/Tq

01-12-2014, 02:04 PM	#15
mach1z Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodstock,GA Posts: 544	Re: lower and upper control arms Nothing wrong with UPR rear suspension. Are you having problems or just itching to spend more? __________________ I/E, 4:10's, tune

01-12-2014, 03:31 PM	#17
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: lower and upper control arms Original factory uppers with mm heavy duty lowers. My uppers are slightly dry rotted, but nothing major. I'd look for a stock take off pair of uppers with low miles. They go for cheap on here all the time. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

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