|
01-23-2004, 01:33 PM | #1 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Sheffield Lake, Ohio
Posts: 482
|
Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Ran across this web site, thought some of you might be interested!
www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_suspension.htm
__________________
Fill (Phil) Nitrous Run 100 shot (10/01/04) 11.769 @ 117.26 mph 1.733.....60' Best 60' 1.712 (09/01/04) Factory Suspension & Gears Welded in Subframes With Crossovers Nitto 275/40/17 DR's on 17x9 AFS Replicas ZEX Nitrous Wet 100 shot Electric Water Pump & 160 Thermostat Cobra R 2000 Alternator & P.S. Pullies A/C By-pass Kit Mac Pro Chamber & Pro Dumps Line Lock Weight Reduction Raptor Shift Lights |
01-23-2004, 02:38 PM | #2 |
700 HP Mach
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 8,384
|
good find! thanks
__________________
03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater |
03-17-2004, 03:19 PM | #3 |
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Longwood Fl
Posts: 3,724
|
Stock Suspension Explained (05 Also)...No Bull
http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_suspension.htm
Hi Guys...For anyone interested in this stuff. Forgot I had it in my favorites. Don't remember where I got it, maybe from one of you.
__________________
Ralph Greene SOLD 03 Mach 1 (Torch Red) 5 Speed Manual Real Ford FR 500 18X9 Wheels 255X40X18 Michelin Tires Steeda Sport Springs (isolators in) Tokico HP Struts/Shocks Steeda 4 bolt CC Plates Poly Offset Steering Rack Bushings Steeda TriAx Shifter Magnaflow X/Cats Bassani Catback with Removable Baffles Last edited by Ralph Greene; 03-17-2004 at 03:53 PM. |
03-17-2004, 04:12 PM | #4 |
WTF?
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 336
|
Good info, thanx for sharing Ralph
__________________
03 GT 73 Mav |
03-17-2004, 04:58 PM | #5 |
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Longwood Fl
Posts: 3,724
|
Remember when he is talking about possible bump steer problems when car is lowered over about 1 1/2", he is talking about from stock GT height. We're already lowerd about 1/2" from that, so many of us have limited further lowering to the 3/4-1" range for that reason. My Steeda Sports lowered no more than 3/4" from stock height, which is already lowered about 1/2". So I figure I'm lowered about 1 1/4" from stock height for our suspensions. I believe for a little stiffer springs than mine, H&R race springs from MM limit lowerering to that amount also, for good steering. You will notice that spring kits designed for good handling on our crude suspension cars don't usually lower very much.
__________________
Ralph Greene SOLD 03 Mach 1 (Torch Red) 5 Speed Manual Real Ford FR 500 18X9 Wheels 255X40X18 Michelin Tires Steeda Sport Springs (isolators in) Tokico HP Struts/Shocks Steeda 4 bolt CC Plates Poly Offset Steering Rack Bushings Steeda TriAx Shifter Magnaflow X/Cats Bassani Catback with Removable Baffles |
01-20-2005, 01:39 PM | #6 |
used to be BrianWannaMach
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,468
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
I came across this site a while back and saved it to my favorites. And I'm glad I did.
I'm in the middle of getting a lot of suspension work done. This site helped me a lot.
__________________
Brian 03 DSG Mach 1, 5-Spd, w/IUP VIN 387483, Mustang Dyno: 321 rwhp/326 rwtq; 371 rwhp/466 rwtq on 100 shot - old numbers, new numbers pending - See pics of my first 86 SVO - I have two - See pics of my 67 Mustang Fastback w/ 427 Small Block - See pics of my 2003 Mach 1 Web Page, needs update for new motor, etc. - See pics of my wife’s 06 Mustang |
06-30-2006, 11:56 AM | #7 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: inverness,fla
Posts: 7
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
did any 04 machs have subframe connectors?. i have them on mine. the technical specifications under rear have a misc. subframe connectors. thanks JOE
|
06-30-2006, 10:05 PM | #8 | |
Centrifuged
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Quote:
__________________
'04 - Black - 6spd. F1A @ 17psi, 8-rib, built motor, built IRS, T56, 4.10s, open-track goodies |
|
11-04-2007, 09:49 PM | #9 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Ok guys, I am opening up this thread again because I know nothing really about suspension. I heard that the mach's suspension could be better and that upgrades are often done...is this true? What kind of suspension upgrades would be recommended on a stock mach?
|
11-04-2007, 09:52 PM | #10 |
Centrifuged
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
basic? springs, shocks/struts, swaybars, CC plates. then if your budget allows, some subframe connectors, strut brace, upper/lower control arms
__________________
'04 - Black - 6spd. F1A @ 17psi, 8-rib, built motor, built IRS, T56, 4.10s, open-track goodies |
11-05-2007, 11:31 AM | #11 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Wow, see yeah I am a noob when it comes to anything suspension. Is it wise to think about lowering the mach? I know they're already a bit lower than the stock GT..
|
11-11-2007, 02:17 PM | #12 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
n y one...
|
11-11-2007, 02:36 PM | #13 |
Centrifuged
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
very wise.
__________________
'04 - Black - 6spd. F1A @ 17psi, 8-rib, built motor, built IRS, T56, 4.10s, open-track goodies |
11-11-2007, 02:49 PM | #14 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Ok, so what parts etc is best for lowering...and suspension wise what parts are needed, what brands are best....I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff.
|
11-11-2007, 06:16 PM | #15 |
Centrifuged
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
to start things off, get some H&R SuperSport springs with Maximum Motorsport (MM) spring isolators, some Bilstein shocks, and MM Caster/Camber plates. This will lower you to about what you see below and give great range for alignment adjustability. Drive that around for a little bit.
If you want more handling, pick up some Eibach swaybars, MM full-length subframe connectors, and MM adjustable lower control arms. I pretty much listed everything I did and was very happy with the setup, but if you want more opinions on brands and experiences, you might want to poke around in the suspension forum, or start your own thread in there asking what to do. This thread throws people off and probably don't think to come in here to answer advice.
__________________
'04 - Black - 6spd. F1A @ 17psi, 8-rib, built motor, built IRS, T56, 4.10s, open-track goodies |
11-11-2007, 06:24 PM | #16 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Yours looks real good and about what I was wanting to do. Sounds good for a start thank you! Now, did you have the parts installed or did you do it yourself? How hard is it to do yourself if you did it that way?
|
11-11-2007, 06:28 PM | #17 | |
Centrifuged
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 1,019
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Quote:
How good of a mechanic are you? If you are an amateur like me, everything can be done except the subframe connectors, those MUST be welded. Just have some patience and expect your car to be down for a couple days, depending on how much you want to tackle.
__________________
'04 - Black - 6spd. F1A @ 17psi, 8-rib, built motor, built IRS, T56, 4.10s, open-track goodies |
|
11-11-2007, 06:55 PM | #18 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Yes, amateur for sure.
The basic stuff would be first, then depending on how much I like/don't like, will go with the subframe connectors etc. |
11-12-2007, 10:25 AM | #19 |
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: omaha NE
Posts: 804
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
I was looking around and found 2" drop spindles here...that would fix alot of those problems...'course you'd need coilovers to adjust the ride height back up to where you want to but it would fix alot of the geometry problems from lowering...
__________________
'86 Scirocco 16v '03 20AE '03 Mach 1 Azure Blue ...went IRS...never looked back... Born: 03/26/2003 Bought: 09/07/2005 |
02-14-2008, 12:13 PM | #20 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Montgomery, Tx
Posts: 17
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Quote:
I am curious to know with these drop spindles and a set of 1" adjustable LCA's what the look and ride quality would be? |
|
07-04-2009, 04:59 PM | #21 |
Doug aka "TK"
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Goldsboro, NC
Posts: 584
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Thought this would be good to place in here:
States IN ORDER which Springs drop how much to include Spring Rates!? ** Keep in mind this info is for the 1999-2004 Mustang GT Coupe which is about .50 to .75" higher than the Mach1** EDITED: CHANGED frpp b & c Drop Distance (Corrected from .875 to 1.2")
__________________
'03 Black Mach1 w/IUP - 5spd - 306rwhp 312rwtq - SCT Tuner ~ Air diverter ~ 1/2" Intake Spacer ~ CnL 85mm Maf & Trueflow pipe 18" Bullitts 255-40 & 295-35 ~ 10% Tint ~ Painted Calipers ~ Magnaflow Cat-back 3.5" Rolled Tips ~ '03 Cobra IRS ~ H&R/Eibach springs w/Bilstiens ~ FRPP 4.10 gears Mac Pro-Chamber ~ Hurst Short Throw Shifter ~ '01 Cobra Bumper w/Mach Chin spoiler WISH LIST:Full Length SFC's // 4pc March Pulleys // Ported Intake Manifold // Custom grind Cams |
07-04-2009, 06:32 PM | #22 |
Guest
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,152
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
Suspension will help you feel the road better I spent a ton on my Mach and the watts link and adjustible rear control arms are the bomb plus D spec's and braces front and rear and full welded in sub frames.
LS |
07-15-2009, 07:42 AM | #23 |
Doug aka "TK"
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Goldsboro, NC
Posts: 584
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
__________________
'03 Black Mach1 w/IUP - 5spd - 306rwhp 312rwtq - SCT Tuner ~ Air diverter ~ 1/2" Intake Spacer ~ CnL 85mm Maf & Trueflow pipe 18" Bullitts 255-40 & 295-35 ~ 10% Tint ~ Painted Calipers ~ Magnaflow Cat-back 3.5" Rolled Tips ~ '03 Cobra IRS ~ H&R/Eibach springs w/Bilstiens ~ FRPP 4.10 gears Mac Pro-Chamber ~ Hurst Short Throw Shifter ~ '01 Cobra Bumper w/Mach Chin spoiler WISH LIST:Full Length SFC's // 4pc March Pulleys // Ported Intake Manifold // Custom grind Cams |
02-27-2013, 02:27 AM | #24 |
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Waaayy out in the country,leave your GPS at home!
Posts: 4,825
|
Re: Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
I am running a 10-150 spring on a UPR coil over setup and with Strange shocks set on 5, bottoms out bad so I went to an 8 but ride sucks, now changing to a smaller pinion snubber, but I have kept ride height adjusted to stock, do I need different springs? This thread was very helpful, excellent postings!!
__________________
2003 DSG Mach 1-03 Cobra Term/T56 swap: 2.3L Whipple,3.37 Upper,4 lb.lower, ID 1000 injectors,LCD cooling mod,Billetflow idlers,200A Alt,oil cooler delete with MMR adapter plate,MM oil filter kit,FrozenBoost Heat Exchanger Flowtech L.T., Maganaflow O/R X with Magnapacks, FRRP D.S.,T-56 with 26 spline input shaft and anti venom mod with reverse lockout box, FR steel flywheel,Spec Stage 3+,Moser 31 spline axles,FR 3.73 gear Tuned by B.Kurgan 601Hp/558/Tq |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|