Eaton Swap.....

[mach18604]

Originally Posted by Kove

Are you saying a '01 Cobra bumper cover? I've got a '01 Cobra bumper cover on mine and I didn't have to do any trimming. That's with a stock Cobra H/E though.

yes.. thanks!

[bleedingfordblu]

i would just like to say F the cam cover gaskets. pain in my ***

[watman02]

^??? what's wrong with them?i haven't started my swap yet...too f@#%ing cold!!!

[SHAKN' 04]

You have to clean them off a bit, or at least get any old gasket sealer/maker off the head or cover for them to seal right. Also gotta dab a few spots of new gasket maker on them so no oil leaks out. I asse that's what's happening?

[Kove]

Originally Posted by t.dilts

Hey guys! I'm new to the site, this is the first I've really used it for anything anyway.. So, I bought an 03' Mach a few months back, and the other day at work (I'm a tech for a local dealer, Benz though, not Ford) I had the opportunity to drive a Roush charged 08' GT we took in on trade, and it was the first supercharged Mustang I've actually had the chance to drive. Let's just say between the noticeable power difference and the whine, I was sold. So I started researching about twin screw blowers since all I could find were centrifugal kits for the Mach, and it led me here. I spent the last 3 days reading every post on this forum in my free time, lol! So I was wondering, when it comes to sourcing used parts, what do you guys recommend, or I should say, where do you recommend I look? Ebay? I searched "cobra supercharger" and got a few of the blowers themselves and a couple lower intakes, ect. But are there more sources I could search through to find everything I could get used for a decent price? Thanks! This thread is great btw! Honestly entertaining to read through!

If you find a Eaton swap kit that's somewhat complete, that's the most cost efficient means of doing the swap. To buy all the parts individually would be ridiculously expensive and probably not worth it. Eaton swap kits usually pop up on here and SVTP quite often, just watch the forums.

[SHAKN' 04]

Originally Posted by Kove

If you find a Eaton swap kit that's somewhat complete, that's the most cost efficient means of doing the swap. To buy all the parts individually would be ridiculously expensive and probably not worth it. Eaton swap kits usually pop up on here and SVTP quite often, just watch the forums.

Not quite, as I bought all my parts (separate used/new) $2100

[machgsxr]

I paid about 3k for mine, but I ended up with like 2 kits and sold the other one off for the complete price and got mine for about the price of a tune...

THat was buying all hte parts seperately.

[Flash88]

i got my whole swap for $1000 + my N/A parts.

friend turbo'd his Cobra and needed my intake, timing cover, etc.

[Kove]

I guess I wasn't looking in the right places then.

[01yellerCobra]

Originally Posted by azureblue_04

I'm in the process of bolting my eaton swap back together and have a few questions.

1) If anyone is using a 3.0" upper pulley what kind of boost are you making?
2) Has anyone tuned your own eaton swap?

Thanks!

Not apples to apples, but for reference....

1) I have a 2.93 upper on my 04 with the stock power. I've seen 12psi according to my Aeroforce gauge. That's with stock manifolds, Bassani catted X, and Stingers. Also my compression is only 8.5:1. Your higher compression might affect it as well.

2) I tuned my 04 myself. It's not really that hard. I've tuned a couple other cars as well.

[azureblue_04]

Originally Posted by 01yellerCobra

Not apples to apples, but for reference....

1) I have a 2.93 upper on my 04 with the stock power. I've seen 12psi according to my Aeroforce gauge. That's with stock manifolds, Bassani catted X, and Stingers. Also my compression is only 8.5:1. Your higher compression might affect it as well.

2) I tuned my 04 myself. It's not really that hard. I've tuned a couple other cars as well.

I don't want to put more than 10psi through the stock shortblock.

I'm hoping the tune won't be to hard to figure out. I'm using factory Cobra injectors & MAF, the only aftermarket parts are a CAI and cattless H pipe. I have the Lasota book and will be getting a base tune from Lasota. I'm still a few weeks out from the tune.

[MachRyan]

Opinions on whether you kind folks think it'd still be worth it to swap an Eaton into a low-mileage Mach 1?

I know parts and install cost plays a factor but seeing as how the regular '18 GT now makes 460 hp at the crank and the Hellcat, ZR1, ZL1, Demon and new GT500 all make 600-800hp, is achieving ~500 at the crank in an 03-04 Mach 1 still worth the price of admission?

Just looking for a friendly discussion and opinion. I have a low-mileage Mach and am wondering whether an Eaton swap on an otherwise stock bottom end producing 450rwhp is even relevant or worth it anymore, especially when comparing it to the cars noted above.

Thanks in advance.

[311-420]

Originally Posted by MachRyan

Opinions on whether you kind folks think it'd still be worth it to swap an Eaton into a low-mileage Mach 1?

I know parts and install cost plays a factor but seeing as how the regular '18 GT now makes 460 hp at the crank and the Hellcat, ZR1, ZL1, Demon and new GT500 all make 600-800hp, is achieving ~500 at the crank in an 03-04 Mach 1 still worth the price of admission?

Just looking for a friendly discussion and opinion. I have a low-mileage Mach and am wondering whether an Eaton swap on an otherwise stock bottom end producing 450rwhp is even relevant or worth it anymore, especially when comparing it to the cars noted above.

Thanks in advance.

I've pulled on a hellcat charger after he tried to surprise ricer fly by me on a two lane country road (no idea on mods if any, it was my buddy's neighbors car and when they talked later the owner of the hellcat said my car was "F'n quick"), an 11-12 GT500 by a couple cars real fast but had to get out of it before it got good (no idea on mods if any) and two different coyote cars by many lengths that were full bolt on (boss manifold, longtubes etc). I've got other significant kills as well but those are the ones that relate to your list.

[MachRyan]

Originally Posted by 311-420

I've pulled on a hellcat charger after he tried to surprise ricer fly by me on a two lane country road (no idea on mods if any, it was my buddy's neighbors car and when they talked later the owner of the hellcat said my car was "F'n quick"), an 11-12 GT500 by a couple cars real fast but had to get out of it before it got good (no idea on mods if any) and two different coyote cars by many lengths that were full bolt on (boss manifold, longtubes etc). I've got other significant kills as well but those are the ones that relate to your list.

Wow. That's super impressive. Are you running an Eaton or are are you upgraded to a KB or Whipple? What kind of power are you putting to the ground? Anyone else care to chime in?

This intrigues me. I figured that the limit of what an Eaton swapped stock block Mach 1 can do would only barely tread water when compared to the powerful cars of today. I guess our cars being significantly lighter than some of those cars listed helps?

[TTSaleen]

Originally Posted by MachRyan

Opinions on whether you kind folks think it'd still be worth it to swap an Eaton into a low-mileage Mach 1?

I know parts and install cost plays a factor but seeing as how the regular '18 GT now makes 460 hp at the crank and the Hellcat, ZR1, ZL1, Demon and new GT500 all make 600-800hp, is achieving ~500 at the crank in an 03-04 Mach 1 still worth the price of admission?

Just looking for a friendly discussion and opinion. I have a low-mileage Mach and am wondering whether an Eaton swap on an otherwise stock bottom end producing 450rwhp is even relevant or worth it anymore, especially when comparing it to the cars noted above.

Thanks in advance.

I've done it both ways.
First way -
Eaton swapped my 40k mile 2003 Red Mach 1. Make over 470rwhp thru an automatic.
With 4.10 rear gears, it was super fun to drive and would put bus-lengths on most "fast" cars from stoplight to stoplight.
Cost came in under $5,500 for everything including Eaton parts, heat exchanger, return fuel system upgrade, full exhaust system, etc.

Second way -
I did a complete Terminator Cobra drivetrain swap on my 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1. Pulled the tired and knocking original Mach engine and dropped in a 50K mile Cobra engine, T56 transmission, IRS rear, and eventually put a Kennebell 2.6 supercharger and E85 return fuel system on it. It makes 700rwhp today.
Cost came in around $10k for everything.

Good luck.
It's worth it.

Ryan