Go-To Swaybar Setup? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Tommy Z · 07-16-2014, 10:51 AM

Went to an autocross event for the first time the other day (chickened out on running ha) and it occurred to me that I haven't done anything about my swaybars. From a road racing/autocross perspective, what's the go-to setup for swaybars on our cars? Thicker ones? Relocate them? Upgraded bracket bushings? Bushings on the front swaybar links?

Something about a microwave with wifi and Tapatalk.

j rick kirby · 07-16-2014, 11:38 AM

Upgraded bushings and end links will allow the stock bars to be more effective. Big changes should be made with springs and fine tuning with bars. Trying to do too much with bars will take away grip from the inside tire in a corner.

mach1metalhead · 07-17-2014, 07:47 PM

I love my Eibach sways.

Mach828 · 07-18-2014, 09:11 AM

I think upgrading the end links with poly bushings is good enough up front.

However, the front isn't the main handling concern with these cars. Its the back end that needs a lot of help.

PeteEpple · 07-18-2014, 12:23 PM

I had Steeda bars on my car and loved them. The front was a larger stock-style replacement with better bushings ans end links.

The rear, you keep the stock bar and add Steeda's supplemental adjustable rear bar. that made a monumental difference in the handling characteristics of the car. It wasn't until then that the front and rear actually felt "connected"

http://www.steeda.com/steeda-adjusta...aybar-006-470/

j rick kirby · 07-18-2014, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteEpple

I had Steeda bars on my car and loved them. The front was a larger stock-style replacement with better bushings ans end links.

The rear, you keep the stock bar and add Steeda's supplemental adjustable rear bar. that made a monumental difference in the handling characteristics of the car. It wasn't until then that the front and rear actually felt "connected"

http://www.steeda.com/steeda-adjusta...aybar-006-470/

Will that bar fit with a MM TA/PHB set up?

PeteEpple · 07-18-2014, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j rick kirby

Will that bar fit with a MM TA/PHB set up?

not sure. i had a Fore diff cover on my car and that needed to be clearanced a bit to fit. Let me see if i can dig a photo of it. maybe that will help determine if it'll fit.

PeteEpple · 07-18-2014, 02:41 PM

Here is the bar on my Mach

Here is my MM TA on my Fox

Are you running the MM rear sway bar? that might cause an issue

Tommy Z · 07-19-2014, 10:23 AM

Dang, Pete! Those are quite the setups! That's almost exactly how I'll have mine once I graduate and can start spending more time/money on it.

Thanks everyone else for the replies!

Something about a microwave with wifi and Tapatalk.

TRmachwon · 07-21-2014, 12:33 AM

Swaybars are really a tuning device, ideally. I have a Steeda front bar on mine since I ran F-stock my first autox season and it was all I could to do bandaid the garbage front geometry.

j rick kirby · 07-21-2014, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteEpple

Here is the bar on my Mach

Here is my MM TA on my Fox

Are you running the MM rear sway bar? that might cause an issue

Thanks Pete!

07-16-2014, 10:51 AM	#1
Tommy Z Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 787	Go-To Swaybar Setup? Went to an autocross event for the first time the other day (chickened out on running ha) and it occurred to me that I haven't done anything about my swaybars. From a road racing/autocross perspective, what's the go-to setup for swaybars on our cars? Thicker ones? Relocate them? Upgraded bracket bushings? Bushings on the front swaybar links? Something about a microwave with wifi and Tapatalk. __________________ No accident that my birthday is March 1st. Take out the 'r' and you end up with.... 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 ★ Rebuilt 3650 & MGW ★ Spec 2 & Fidanza flywheel ★ H&R Super Sports & Maximum Motorsports struts/shocks ★ Maximum Motorsports rear lowers, MM panhard, MM caster camber plates ★ Mosers + ARPs ★ Brembo slotted rotors, braided lines ★ Catless X and SLP LM2s ★ 18X9/10.5 - Toyo R888R

07-16-2014, 11:38 AM	#2
j rick kirby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 1,802	Re: Go-To Swaybar Setup? Upgraded bushings and end links will allow the stock bars to be more effective. Big changes should be made with springs and fine tuning with bars. Trying to do too much with bars will take away grip from the inside tire in a corner. __________________ 2003 Azure mach1 5 speed with IUP Maximum Motorsports R&T Box with Torque Arm and lots of other bits and pieces here and there 2012 Candy Red Metalic Premium GT with Brembo/Trak Pak and 373s HPDE Instructor

07-17-2014, 07:47 PM	#3
mach1metalhead Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,065	I love my Eibach sways. __________________ 03 Mach (Auto) JLT RAI - 1/2" Intake Spacer - Mac longtubes - Mac Prochamber - Borla cat-back - PA Racing k-member - Energy Suspension motor mounts - Eibach Sportline springs - Eibach anti-roll kit - SPC caster/camber kit - Steeda X2 ball-joints - Steeda strut tower bar - Eibach 1" wheel spacers (rear only)

07-18-2014, 09:11 AM	#4
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: Go-To Swaybar Setup? I think upgrading the end links with poly bushings is good enough up front. However, the front isn't the main handling concern with these cars. Its the back end that needs a lot of help. __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

07-18-2014, 12:23 PM	#5
PeteEpple Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 738	Re: Go-To Swaybar Setup? I had Steeda bars on my car and loved them. The front was a larger stock-style replacement with better bushings ans end links. The rear, you keep the stock bar and add Steeda's supplemental adjustable rear bar. that made a monumental difference in the handling characteristics of the car. It wasn't until then that the front and rear actually felt "connected" http://www.steeda.com/steeda-adjusta...aybar-006-470/ __________________ 3 pedals... 2 bottles... and 1 loose nut behind the wheel!

07-18-2014, 02:41 PM	#8
PeteEpple Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 738	Re: Go-To Swaybar Setup? Here is the bar on my Mach Here is my MM TA on my Fox Are you running the MM rear sway bar? that might cause an issue __________________ 3 pedals... 2 bottles... and 1 loose nut behind the wheel!

07-19-2014, 10:23 AM	#9
Tommy Z Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 787	Dang, Pete! Those are quite the setups! That's almost exactly how I'll have mine once I graduate and can start spending more time/money on it. Thanks everyone else for the replies! Something about a microwave with wifi and Tapatalk. __________________ No accident that my birthday is March 1st. Take out the 'r' and you end up with.... 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 ★ Rebuilt 3650 & MGW ★ Spec 2 & Fidanza flywheel ★ H&R Super Sports & Maximum Motorsports struts/shocks ★ Maximum Motorsports rear lowers, MM panhard, MM caster camber plates ★ Mosers + ARPs ★ Brembo slotted rotors, braided lines ★ Catless X and SLP LM2s ★ 18X9/10.5 - Toyo R888R

07-21-2014, 12:33 AM	#10
TRmachwon Parking Lot Racer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 790	Re: Go-To Swaybar Setup? Swaybars are really a tuning device, ideally. I have a Steeda front bar on mine since I ran F-stock my first autox season and it was all I could to do bandaid the garbage front geometry. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Maximum Motorsports Equipped

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