Rear turbos - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

03mach 1 · 03-16-2008, 02:45 AM

Are rear turbos avalible for mach 1's??? If so are they worth it?

wutang61 · 03-16-2008, 03:44 AM

id stick with the HPP, HP kits....

rear mounted turbos lose a crap load of power due to how far the exhaust gasses have to flow.

Awd This · 03-16-2008, 03:44 PM

I would stick with one large single turbo due to drain back issues.

03mach 1 · 03-17-2008, 12:22 AM

but what about price and the hole egine needs to be rebiult with a turbo right?

wutang61 · 03-17-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 03mach 1

but what about price and the hole egine needs to be rebiult with a turbo right?

depends how you wanna go about it.

swervo is running the HP kit @7psi with the stock bottom. he makes around 470rwhp if im not mistaken.

but if you wanna run more boost then that (or you don't wanna gamble boosting the stock bottom) then forged rods and pistons are required.

03mach 1 · 03-18-2008, 02:35 AM

what about the instalation??

acerasuolo · 03-18-2008, 12:38 PM

roughly 4-5 grand total(might be high for some areas) for full installation of the turbo's and installation of the forged rotating assembly. your honestly looking at a $12,0000 - $14,000 job if you want to do it right the first time.

icutice2 · 03-18-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by acerasuolo

roughly 4-5 grand total(might be high for some areas) for full installation of the turbo's and installation of the forged rotating assembly. your honestly looking at a $12,0000 - $14,000 job if you want to do it right the first time.

I have the HP system and yes do it right the firts time. Blew my motor with 8psi. the stock pistons are crap. Redone the whole care and engine and it is scary

Gameboy_J · 03-18-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by icutice2

I have the HP system and yes do it right the firts time. Blew my motor with 8psi. the stock pistons are crap. Redone the whole care and engine and it is scary

****, after reading stuff like this maybe I will stick with a Procharger and conservative tune.

CompOrange · 03-18-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gameboy_J

****, after reading stuff like this maybe I will stick with a Procharger and conservative tune.

Still is a gamble. Sure, the stockers have gotten a number of people really far, but with the power levels most people are putting down on stock internals, the motor is not going to live forever. If you boost it, just know that the long term survival is a crap shoot. You've got to pay to play.

03mach 1 · 03-18-2008, 02:32 PM

what about cobra moters??

CompOrange · 03-18-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 03mach 1

what about cobra moters??

What about them? They have forged internals from the factory, while not the best things in the world, they are designed to handle boost unlike our motors. Ford did things right IMHO when it comes to the cobra, then again, it also carried a much higher price tag.

03mach 1 · 03-18-2008, 09:29 PM

yaa so in thinkin i should rebuild my moter thin add boost???

or should i just bye a new engine?

icutice2 · 03-20-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 03mach 1

yaa so in thinkin i should rebuild my moter thin add boost???

or should i just bye a new engine?

Just replace the internals and I would stroke it to a 5.0

DannyStyle22 · 03-22-2008, 05:44 PM

icutice2 - do you have any more pictures of your car handy?

cveater · 04-13-2008, 03:16 PM

why rebuild your motor when you buy the aluminator already built pumpin 700hp

nasty04mach1 · 04-13-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61

id stick with the HPP, HP kits....

rear mounted turbos lose a crap load of power due to how far the exhaust gasses have to flow.

Acutally thats not ture. If you look up sts they can tell you all about it. I actually know a guy that has twins in the rear. The air stays so cold because of how far it travels that you only lose about 1 psi of boost. And there no real difference in turbo lag. If you get a turbo hellion is a great brand as well

rcodemach1 · 04-13-2008, 11:53 PM

Actually it is kinda true but doesn't seem to be a huge problem. The main problem is getting oil to/from the turbos. If the oiling system isn't dialed in you can get oil coming out of the exhaust.

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Originally Posted by nasty04mach1

Acutally thats not ture. If you look up sts they can tell you all about it. I actually know a guy that has twins in the rear. The air stays so cold because of how far it travels that you only lose about 1 psi of boost. And there no real difference in turbo lag. If you get a turbo hellion is a great brand as well

Madmax305 · 04-16-2008, 03:21 PM

A local guy here is running the sts turbos on his 2000 gt and with 18lbs, he put down 719rwhp and 652rwtq. It is quite impressive. During the dyno tune, the car looked like it was going to jump off the dyno when the full boost kicked in and it was fully strapped down....

03mach 1 · 04-16-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cveater

why rebuild your motor when you buy the aluminator already built pumpin 700hp

what do you mean???

Thor · 04-16-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by icutice2

Just replace the internals and I would stroke it to a 5.0

That's what I did, but I'm still supercharged, for now...

03mach 1 · 04-17-2008, 12:47 AM

so rear turbos, twin turbos, or single turbo?

and could i get one and just keep the boost low untill i get my engine rebuilt?

mach1usmc · 04-23-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 03mach 1

Are rear turbos avalible for mach 1's??? If so are they worth it?

STS can make you a custom kit for our cars....they are cheaper than HP. BUT because it's custom you or whoever is doing the install better know what they are doing.

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03-16-2008, 03:44 AM	#2
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03-17-2008, 12:22 AM	#4
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03-18-2008, 12:38 PM	#7
acerasuolo Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Smithtown/Hauppauge, Long Island NY Posts: 612	Re: Rear turbos roughly 4-5 grand total(might be high for some areas) for full installation of the turbo's and installation of the forged rotating assembly. your honestly looking at a $12,0000 - $14,000 job if you want to do it right the first time. __________________ 2004 Black Mach 5spd Steeda Shifter\|\|Steeda Tri-ax\|\|SLP LM1\|\|Bassani O/R X pipe\|\|Int. Spacer\|\|1" Shaker Ext\|\|X-CAL2\|\|Ported Lower Manifold\|\|EGR Del\|\|Accufab TB\|\|AFS Chrome Mach w/ Black inserts 275 Nittos\|\|Vortech T-trim\|\|Mez WP\|\|LDC Head mod\|\|FRPP Alum DS\|\|3.55's\|\|SCTBA2400\|\|60lb Inj\|\|Cobra tank/SVT Focus pumps\|\|MMR5.0L stroker\|\|Ported heads\|\|GT cams\|\|MMR RBT700 clutch\|\|Built Rear\|\|Steeda Clutch Quad & Adj 550rwhp-475rwtq Daily driver

03-18-2008, 02:32 PM	#11
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03-18-2008, 09:29 PM	#13
03mach 1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: keller, tx Posts: 718	Re: Rear turbos yaa so in thinkin i should rebuild my moter thin add boost??? or should i just bye a new engine? __________________ my myspace, http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=59416576

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04-13-2008, 03:16 PM	#16
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Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Re: Rear turbos A local guy here is running the sts turbos on his 2000 gt and with 18lbs, he put down 719rwhp and 652rwtq. It is quite impressive. During the dyno tune, the car looked like it was going to jump off the dyno when the full boost kicked in and it was fully strapped down.... __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

04-17-2008, 12:47 AM	#22
03mach 1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: keller, tx Posts: 718	Re: Rear turbos so rear turbos, twin turbos, or single turbo? and could i get one and just keep the boost low untill i get my engine rebuilt? __________________ my myspace, http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=59416576 Last edited by 03mach 1; 04-26-2008 at 10:32 PM.

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