Which supercharger works best - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

BacknBlackMach · 10-02-2007, 12:19 AM

I was wondering if ther ewas a root super charger that would still work with my shaker hood, or if i had to go with the pro charger? info people please!

CompOrange · 10-02-2007, 02:19 AM

Well what kind of goals are you after?

Search might give you the answers you need though :THUMBSUP:

CBrowning84 · 10-02-2007, 10:12 AM

Two words. Kenny Belle.

2k4mach · 10-02-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CBrowning84

Two words. Kenny Belle.

what kind of blower is that?
I know of a similar 1 that goes by the name of kenne bell

wutang61 · 10-02-2007, 03:43 PM

kenne bell is a twin-screw super charger. it will fit under the shaker with out a problem. and imo there the best choice for the street brawlin' machs :ORANGE:

Nor Cal Mach · 10-02-2007, 04:55 PM

Dont you have to build the internals to run a KB. Also arent they about 6k

CompOrange · 10-02-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Mach

Dont you have to build the internals to run a KB. Also arent they about 6k

You should plan on forging the motor no matter what supercharger you go with. You are running on borrowed time when running boost on stock internals. Sure, a "safe" and conservative tune will help you survive with the stock internals for some time, but it's only a matter of time before you go KABOOM!

And yes, the Intercooled KB setups run around $6K

Scott McClure · 10-02-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CompOrange

You should plan on forging the motor no matter what supercharger you go with. You are running on borrowed time when running boost on stock internals. Sure, a "safe" and conservative tune will help you survive with the stock internals for some time, but it's only a matter of time before you go KABOOM!

And yes, the Intercooled KB setups run around $6K

Another expert on "borrowed time". And the intercooled Kenne Bell is around $7000.00.

Mark04Mach1 · 10-02-2007, 06:25 PM

hahahahah

CompOrange · 10-02-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Another expert on "borrowed time". And the intercooled Kenne Bell is around $7000.00.

I have no faith in the stock rods holding up to forced induction for a prolonged period of time, especially if you drive like you stole it on a regular basis. They were not designed to take the forces they will see under boost. I could see not building the motor if you are putting it off for sometime in the near, but no plans of eventually building the motor not only seems like a half-assed idea, but a dumbasss idea as well

But hey, it's a risk you play...the real question is if or when it will go kaboom.

Borrowed time is a damned good way to describe things

c0nfl1kt · 10-02-2007, 08:19 PM

This is a question for those with forged innards. How much? You can PM infoes. Merci Beaucoup!

nastyNYmach · 10-02-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Another expert on "borrowed time". And the intercooled Kenne Bell is around $7000.00.

Stock internals with moderate boost and a good tune can last a long time, unless you like to just desroy things

jv7 · 10-03-2007, 10:47 AM

If you drive around like you stole it with a blower all the time you're probably going end up in jail before you blow your motor because at that power level your car will be all over the road. Get a blower, a custom tune and don't go crazy with the boost you'll be ok.

wutang61 · 10-03-2007, 09:29 PM

under 425 rwhp on low boost with a safe tune and your engine will be fine. but you definitely should build the engine in the near future, like the other guys have said, stock internals will last, but not forever. forging the motor would be the smartest thing to do. a full forged rotating assembly for our machs is under 2G. so its not like your talking godly amounts of money.

supercharge it this year and forge it next year.

MI2QWK4U · 10-03-2007, 10:05 PM

I Just had Lidio install a Kenne Bell supercharger on my Mach. Lidio knows his stuff and it is what he insists on for Mach 1s. It is the only mod that I have and frankly, I am more than impressed at the results. 11.77 in 85 degree weather on pump gas. Tuned conservatively and the drivability is great.

I know that folks spend well over 10 K on bolt on and other stuff that eventually kill the drivability. In my book, one mod, and this is it. Get some wider rims and drag radials and you are done. Very brutal street machine.

blown03Mach1 · 10-03-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CompOrange

I have no faith in the stock rods holding up to forced induction for a prolonged period of time, especially if you drive like you stole it on a regular basis. They were not designed to take the forces they will see under boost. I could see not building the motor if you are putting it off for sometime in the near, but no plans of eventually building the motor not only seems like a half-assed idea, but a dumbasss idea as well

But hey, it's a risk you play...the real question is if or when it will go kaboom.

Borrowed time is a damned good way to describe things

I agree to a ppoint. I have been running a boosted stock bottom for 23 months and 15k miles now. Granted I do not use more then a about 4-5 pounds on a regualr basis, but I do have over 20 dyno pulls along with 28 1/4 mile passes on my stock bottom.

BTW I do have a Teksid that I am starting to build as I agree about the borrowed time, but **** this has been a lot longer borrowed time then I thought when I went boosted!!

I thinkn a stock bottom is perfectly fine under moderate boost. I also think that most of the blown up boosted applications are as a result of the owners who become addicted to boost and keep wanting more.

YellowMenace · 10-03-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaken not Stir

I agree to a ppoint. I have been running a boosted stock bottom for 23 months and 15k miles now. Granted I do not use more then a about 4-5 pounds on a regualr basis, but I do have over 20 dyno pulls along with 28 1/4 mile passes on my stock bottom.

BTW I do have a Teksid that I am starting to build as I agree about the borrowed time, but **** this has been a lot longer borrowed time then I thought when I went boosted!!

I thinkn a stock bottom is perfectly fine under moderate boost. I also think that most of the blown up boosted applications are as a result of the owners who become addicted to boost and keep wanting more.

15K in 23 months ain't exactly wearing it out. And 4-5 lbs of boost is pretty conservative too. I'd say as long as you're doing that sort of thing the stocker will last quite a while. But then you're only using a tiny bit of the capability of your power adder too. So if you baby it, the stocker will last. Otherwise the stock rods have a HP limit no matter how conservative the tune.

c0nfl1kt · 10-03-2007, 11:25 PM

Hey guys, I know of someone selling a huge procharger F1R for $3700. If I were to get this, would it blow up my engine? I mean, from what I can tell, it's the meanest procharger that ATI sells. Good idea? Bad idea? I have the money.

c0nfl1kt · 10-03-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

F3R is!

Yes you WILL blow your junk up!

Screw it then =(

ponygt65 · 10-04-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Belts R 4 Pusses!

I'd rather have a belt, and get blown every day.....than suck exhaust gases....you :OOPS:

wutang61 · 10-04-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

I'd rather have a belt, and get blown every day.....than suck exhaust gases....you :OOPS:

G · 10-04-2007, 12:56 AM

Screw the SC'ers ------------------- single or twin turbo is the ticket. Why use power to make power. I'm so happy with the TT'd GT going another way seems nutz.

Scott McClure · 10-04-2007, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

I'd rather have a belt, and get blown every day.....than suck exhaust gases....you :OOPS:

Bahahahahaha

CBrowning84 · 10-04-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

what kind of blower is that?
I know of a similar 1 that goes by the name of kenne bell

lol yeah WHATEVER!

I knew the e was on one of them there names.

And yeah, I think anything under 8psi is fine for stock internals, but you ARE weakening them. So yeah, it is "borrowed time" I guess but it depends on how you drive how long that time is. I dont' see why it can't last years on stock. I would definately forge it though. If nothing else, why not? Just slap a new belt/tune whatever and bump up the boost and get 500+rwhp!

Madmax305 · 10-04-2007, 12:08 PM

Hey, I like my belt, it keeps my pants up...

10-02-2007, 12:19 AM	#1
BacknBlackMach I Call her Black Betty Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Macomb,OK Posts: 11	Which supercharger works best I was wondering if ther ewas a root super charger that would still work with my shaker hood, or if i had to go with the pro charger? info people please!

10-02-2007, 02:19 AM	#2
CompOrange PSR Mafia Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,011	Re: Which supercharger works best Well what kind of goals are you after? Search might give you the answers you need though :THUMBSUP: __________________ 2010 Triumph Daytona 675 2003 Mach 1 - Azure Blue 5 speed Mostly stock...except for a few goodies

10-02-2007, 10:12 AM	#3
CBrowning84 wears sunglasses at night Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KY Posts: 1,163	Re: Which supercharger works best Two words. Kenny Belle. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra Current Mods: - Hypercoated FR500's (18x9,18x10) - BFG KDW2 (265/35/18, 295/35/18) - Saleen Rear Wing - Densecharger Cold-air Intake - Bassani X-Pipe w/ high-flow cats, Magnaflow Catback w/ Flowmaster Mufflers - 2.93 Pulley - 470/534 rwhp/tq

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wutang61 CAT MASTA! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 3,406	Re: Which supercharger works best kenne bell is a twin-screw super charger. it will fit under the shaker with out a problem. and imo there the best choice for the street brawlin' machs :ORANGE: __________________ 04' Torched *6-speed* Build Date: 02/25/2004 Ported Eaton @7psi Viper T-56 Built 8.8,4.10's 441/402

10-02-2007, 04:55 PM	#6
Nor Cal Mach Mach-O-Haulic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 716	Re: Which supercharger works best Dont you have to build the internals to run a KB. Also arent they about 6k

10-02-2007, 06:25 PM	#9
Mark04Mach1 No mames.... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Del Rio, Texas Posts: 2,449	Re: Which supercharger works best hahahahah __________________ sold all my cars..

10-03-2007, 10:47 AM	#13
jv7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 950	Re: Which supercharger works best If you drive around like you stole it with a blower all the time you're probably going end up in jail before you blow your motor because at that power level your car will be all over the road. Get a blower, a custom tune and don't go crazy with the boost you'll be ok.

10-03-2007, 09:29 PM	#14
wutang61 CAT MASTA! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 3,406	Re: Which supercharger works best under 425 rwhp on low boost with a safe tune and your engine will be fine. but you definitely should build the engine in the near future, like the other guys have said, stock internals will last, but not forever. forging the motor would be the smartest thing to do. a full forged rotating assembly for our machs is under 2G. so its not like your talking godly amounts of money. supercharge it this year and forge it next year. __________________ 04' Torched *6-speed* Build Date: 02/25/2004 Ported Eaton @7psi Viper T-56 Built 8.8,4.10's 441/402

10-03-2007, 10:05 PM	#15
MI2QWK4U MotorCityMarauders.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Motor City Posts: 51	Re: Which supercharger works best I Just had Lidio install a Kenne Bell supercharger on my Mach. Lidio knows his stuff and it is what he insists on for Mach 1s. It is the only mod that I have and frankly, I am more than impressed at the results. 11.77 in 85 degree weather on pump gas. Tuned conservatively and the drivability is great. I know that folks spend well over 10 K on bolt on and other stuff that eventually kill the drivability. In my book, one mod, and this is it. Get some wider rims and drag radials and you are done. Very brutal street machine. __________________ 2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1 Azure Blue 10.98@128MPH 532 RWHP 489 RW Torque @ 14 lbs Boost - Kenne Bell SC. 2003 Mercury Marauder 11.844 @ 116 MPH 512 RWHP 494 RW Torque @ 13.5 lbs Boost. - Trilogy Eaton Intercooled Supercharger #0002 1985 Ford Mustang GT White- T-Tops, Automatic, Modern Explorer 302 5.0 block. 2006 Premium White Ford Mustang GT Premium Coupe-Automatic, Eibach Pro Sping Kit. 1993 Mustang LX Convertible Feature car -Triple White, 1 of 1000.

10-04-2007, 12:56 AM	#22
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: Which supercharger works best Screw the SC'ers ------------------- single or twin turbo is the ticket. Why use power to make power. I'm so happy with the TT'd GT going another way seems nutz. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

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