need some help with a procharger kit - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

ceracer33 · 08-26-2008, 07:22 PM

here's the deal. this is all for my dads 03 mach 1. i will be doing the install for him. we have found a really good deal on a used procharger kit that is coming off of a 97 cobra. it has the p1sc head unit. from my understanding the mounting bracket from the cobra will not work on the mach 1, but the piping and the intercooler should all work correct? we plan to only run 5psi, and i was told that only running that low of boost we would not need to upgrade the fuel pump or injectors. although im sure it would be a good idea to upgrade, is what i was told true? i was thinking he would need atleast injectors. but then again didnt the mach 1's come with bigger injectors than gt's? im use to working on my 99 gt, and i know my 19lbs injectors would be too small. im thinking the fuel pump should be ok, but im really concerned about the injectors. we are trying to do this on a budget, and my dad is really not looking for a ton of power. he wants to keep it low boost for reliability. the kit comes with a 3 core intercooler and a new bypass valve, so we should be good there. other than the mounting bracket, what else would i need to bolt this kit on and go? tuning will be done via sniper software and a wideband. i'll just create a very safe tune for him, and have my tuner look it over good to verify that its a safe tune. anyone have any suggestions on what else i need to look into getting before i begin this install? if the stock injectors will get us by with 5psi then we will leave them in for now, but i dont want to run them over 85% duty cycle. any help would be much appreciated.

underdog1973 · 08-26-2008, 07:35 PM

your gonna need injectors even at low boost you can get 39# from a 03-04 cobra fairly cheap on ebay lots of cobra guys upgrade and go bigger also the fuel pump will need to be upgraded $100 for a svt focus pump
as for only 5psi that might be hard to do a 4" pulley makes 8-9psi and only has about 1/16th of clearance between it and the valve cover you would need roughly a 4.40" pulley to get around 5psi and that for sure would not clear the valve cover you also need a new maf meter or a diablo mafia to handle the extra air flow

ponygt65 · 08-26-2008, 08:00 PM

I don't think you'll get 5psi. If memory serves me correctly they have a 4.1" (or the 4" referenced above) is rated at 6-8psi. That is the lowest psi rating you can get.

WIth that said, you will need injectors (Machs are 24#, not 19 like GTs), and a Fuel pump. I would suggest a Focus SVT pump or a FGT (with modified basket) for only $100. I know you'll need a bracket, but I do believe some piping as well (does the 97 cobra have the same size TB - oval or round?).

(finish this one later.....have to run).

OH ral quick....If 'on a budget' is a HUGE thing...I would NOT go FI. You'd be surprised at how fast it gets pricey no matter how much planning/research you do...TRUST ME.

ceracer33 · 08-26-2008, 08:01 PM

hhmm interesting. the guy was saying it was pullied to make 5psi. so i would definately need injectors and a fuel pump. no doubts about it huh? no way around the maf upgrade either? and probably wont be able to run 5psi? is 10psi gonna be safe on stock internals though? this car is bone stock and he does not want to chance blowing it.

ponygt65 · 08-26-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ceracer33

hhmm interesting. the guy was saying it was pullied to make 5psi. so i would definately need injectors and a fuel pump. no doubts about it huh? no way around the maf upgrade either? and probably wont be able to run 5psi? is 10psi gonna be safe on stock internals though? this car is bone stock and he does not want to chance blowing it.

4" pulley, MAF.ia or sct2400+, fuel pump, injectors, tune, gauges. That's the 'jist' of it as far as necessaties. (well, maybe not the gauges, but I think they are a needed item).

Tune it to 400 rwhp.

ceracer33 · 08-26-2008, 08:39 PM

man, if he's gotta buy all that stuff too he probably wont be doing it. oh well. if we are gonna do it we gotta do it right.

1bad4vgt · 08-26-2008, 09:04 PM

a 97 cobra kit will need alot of stuff, a 01 cobra kit only needs a couple things. you will need a bracket, offset spacer, Idler pulley w/bushings, coolent crossover tubes, rad hose bag, shaker bracket, and 2 inlet pipes. that stuff from procharger will run around $700. That is just to get it mounted you still will need Diablosport Maf.ia, cobra 39 injectors and a svt focus pump.

Newskool Mach · 08-27-2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by underdog1973

your gonna need injectors even at low boost you can get 39# from a 03-04 cobra fairly cheap on ebay lots of cobra guys upgrade and go bigger also the fuel pump will need to be upgraded $100 for a svt focus pump
as for only 5psi that might be hard to do a 4" pulley makes 8-9psi and only has about 1/16th of clearance between it and the valve cover you would need roughly a 4.40" pulley to get around 5psi and that for sure would not clear the valve cover you also need a new maf meter or a diablo mafia to handle the extra air flow

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

I don't think you'll get 5psi. If memory serves me correctly they have a 4.1" (or the 4" referenced above) is rated at 6-8psi. That is the lowest psi rating you can get.

WIth that said, you will need injectors (Machs are 24#, not 19 like GTs), and a Fuel pump. I would suggest a Focus SVT pump or a FGT (with modified basket) for only $100. I know you'll need a bracket, but I do believe some piping as well (does the 97 cobra have the same size TB - oval or round?).

(finish this one later.....have to run).

OH ral quick....If 'on a budget' is a HUGE thing...I would NOT go FI. You'd be surprised at how fast it gets pricey no matter how much planning/research you do...TRUST ME.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygt65

4" pulley, MAF.ia or sct2400+, fuel pump, injectors, tune, gauges. That's the 'jist' of it as far as necessaties. (well, maybe not the gauges, but I think they are a needed item).

Tune it to 400 rwhp.

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Originally Posted by 1bad4vgt

a 97 cobra kit will need alot of stuff, a 01 cobra kit only needs a couple things. you will need a bracket, offset spacer, Idler pulley w/bushings, coolent crossover tubes, rad hose bag, shaker bracket, and 2 inlet pipes. that stuff from procharger will run around $700. That is just to get it mounted you still will need Diablosport Maf.ia, cobra 39 injectors and a svt focus pump.

^^What these guys said. DO NOT skimp on fuel. Save the money and do it right. A stock motor will handle under 450RWHP.

ponygt65 · 08-27-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ceracer33

man, if he's gotta buy all that stuff too he probably wont be doing it. oh well. if we are gonna do it we gotta do it right.

That's a smart choice. Do it right the first time, or you'll pay twice as much later.

08-26-2008, 07:22 PM	#1
ceracer33 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mobile, al Posts: 3	need some help with a procharger kit here's the deal. this is all for my dads 03 mach 1. i will be doing the install for him. we have found a really good deal on a used procharger kit that is coming off of a 97 cobra. it has the p1sc head unit. from my understanding the mounting bracket from the cobra will not work on the mach 1, but the piping and the intercooler should all work correct? we plan to only run 5psi, and i was told that only running that low of boost we would not need to upgrade the fuel pump or injectors. although im sure it would be a good idea to upgrade, is what i was told true? i was thinking he would need atleast injectors. but then again didnt the mach 1's come with bigger injectors than gt's? im use to working on my 99 gt, and i know my 19lbs injectors would be too small. im thinking the fuel pump should be ok, but im really concerned about the injectors. we are trying to do this on a budget, and my dad is really not looking for a ton of power. he wants to keep it low boost for reliability. the kit comes with a 3 core intercooler and a new bypass valve, so we should be good there. other than the mounting bracket, what else would i need to bolt this kit on and go? tuning will be done via sniper software and a wideband. i'll just create a very safe tune for him, and have my tuner look it over good to verify that its a safe tune. anyone have any suggestions on what else i need to look into getting before i begin this install? if the stock injectors will get us by with 5psi then we will leave them in for now, but i dont want to run them over 85% duty cycle. any help would be much appreciated.

08-26-2008, 07:35 PM	#2
underdog1973 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Davison, Michigan Posts: 63	Re: need some help with a procharger kit your gonna need injectors even at low boost you can get 39# from a 03-04 cobra fairly cheap on ebay lots of cobra guys upgrade and go bigger also the fuel pump will need to be upgraded $100 for a svt focus pump as for only 5psi that might be hard to do a 4" pulley makes 8-9psi and only has about 1/16th of clearance between it and the valve cover you would need roughly a 4.40" pulley to get around 5psi and that for sure would not clear the valve cover you also need a new maf meter or a diablo mafia to handle the extra air flow __________________ mods k&n drop in air filter 4:10 rear gear bfg drag radials steeda tri-ax shifter steeda lca's 13.169 @106.43 mph n/a

08-26-2008, 08:00 PM	#3
ponygt65 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 7,687	Re: need some help with a procharger kit I don't think you'll get 5psi. If memory serves me correctly they have a 4.1" (or the 4" referenced above) is rated at 6-8psi. That is the lowest psi rating you can get. WIth that said, you will need injectors (Machs are 24#, not 19 like GTs), and a Fuel pump. I would suggest a Focus SVT pump or a FGT (with modified basket) for only $100. I know you'll need a bracket, but I do believe some piping as well (does the 97 cobra have the same size TB - oval or round?). (finish this one later.....have to run). OH ral quick....If 'on a budget' is a HUGE thing...I would NOT go FI. You'd be surprised at how fast it gets pricey no matter how much planning/research you do...TRUST ME. __________________ Current Stable: NO stangs.....DON'T F'ING remind me. Previous stangs: 2003 Mineral Grey Cobra Vert 1965 Factory GT K Code Coupe - mostly original and numbers matching. 14.9 (best) GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!! 2003 MACh 1 AB - MINE!..SLP LM1s, PHP Spacer, and a CAI, that wont' stop whistling. 2004 MACh 1 DSG - PHP spacer, BOrla Stingers, K and N CAI, Tune, X-pipe, 1" 1-piece raised shaker...yadda yadda.

08-26-2008, 08:01 PM	#4
ceracer33 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mobile, al Posts: 3	Re: need some help with a procharger kit hhmm interesting. the guy was saying it was pullied to make 5psi. so i would definately need injectors and a fuel pump. no doubts about it huh? no way around the maf upgrade either? and probably wont be able to run 5psi? is 10psi gonna be safe on stock internals though? this car is bone stock and he does not want to chance blowing it.

08-26-2008, 08:39 PM	#6
ceracer33 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mobile, al Posts: 3	Re: need some help with a procharger kit man, if he's gotta buy all that stuff too he probably wont be doing it. oh well. if we are gonna do it we gotta do it right.

08-26-2008, 09:04 PM	#7
1bad4vgt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huntingtown, MD Posts: 92	Re: need some help with a procharger kit a 97 cobra kit will need alot of stuff, a 01 cobra kit only needs a couple things. you will need a bracket, offset spacer, Idler pulley w/bushings, coolent crossover tubes, rad hose bag, shaker bracket, and 2 inlet pipes. that stuff from procharger will run around $700. That is just to get it mounted you still will need Diablosport Maf.ia, cobra 39 injectors and a svt focus pump. __________________ 02 GT Built stroker 4V W/F1A procharger T56 6 speed 10.61 @ 131

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