My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

4-v mach · 06-26-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bbford97

Where did you get the CF trunk?

http://www.aerokits.net/cart/index.p...oducts_id=1856

4-v mach · 06-26-2009, 10:25 PM

fluidyne and cf jlt ram air came the other day and are installed. just a few more things to button up on the underside and fill with fluids...

rich1 · 06-26-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

fluidyne and cf jlt ram air came the other day and are installed. just a few more things to button up on the underside and fill with fluids...

Hurry up we are waiting !

4-v mach · 06-28-2009, 10:23 PM

well i got the headers on and finished a few more things today. i think i want to leave the xpipe off to hear this thing rumble on first startup.

i'm having a hell of a time trying to get the coolant hoses off the stock radiator to put on the new one. any suggestions?

after the hoses go on, it's time to fill with fluids, crank the motor over for oil pressure, throw in some tr6's, and then fire it up!

Linumup · 06-29-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

well i got the headers on and finished a few more things today. i think i want to leave the xpipe off to hear this thing rumble on first startup.

i'm having a hell of a time trying to get the coolant hoses off the stock radiator to put on the new one. any suggestions?

after the hoses go on, it's time to fill with fluids, crank the motor over for oil pressure, throw in some tr6's, and then fire it up!

Heat it up with a torch , they will slip right off . Just make sure you keep the tip off the rubber and you move the heat around evenly .

4-v mach · 06-29-2009, 10:07 AM

thanks, that was my next step. i left the whole assembly out in the sun yesterday to see if it would heat up but only the metal brackets did. i'll try my heat gun first then move on to the torch. had to go shopping yesterday for a bunch more little things like new compression fittings, coolant, oil, plugs, etc. hopefully by tuesday it'll run

4-v mach · 06-30-2009, 10:02 PM

well almost everything is done and the motor fired up for the first time tonight. wow, does it ever sound like a cammed big block! i'm excited...

rich1 · 06-30-2009, 10:18 PM

Wheres the Video ???? Btw I got the Heater Tube Thanks.

JasonARGY · 06-30-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rich1

Wheres the Video ????

+1!!

311-420 · 07-01-2009, 05:36 PM

nice! im jealous..

4-v mach · 07-02-2009, 02:01 PM

here's one of the original startups, headers only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4mO6kGBY4

sideways03 · 07-02-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

here's one of the original startups, headers only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4mO6kGBY4

I wanna see more! :THUMBSUP:

Shane@TM · 07-02-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

here's one of the original startups, headers only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4mO6kGBY4

holy **** that thing sounds mean! i beef caked in my underpants

SeadudeRXP · 07-03-2009, 05:35 PM

**** Mark sounds good. I cant believe i havent made it over there yet to see it. Sounds great cant wait to see it in person.

4-v mach · 07-05-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeadudeRXP

**** Mark sounds good. I cant believe i havent made it over there yet to see it. Sounds great cant wait to see it in person.

well now you saw it... fanboys was hilarious

too bad i've got to drive this thing 500 miles and it rains every darn day

snakebitx2 · 07-07-2009, 01:00 PM

Sounds slow! Lets put some miles on her so Justin can finish her.

Schism · 07-13-2009, 05:38 AM

I had the chance to see this car in person over the weekend. Wow I must say I was impressed... this guy has some awesome attention to detail and takes no shortcuts. The sound of the car is exacty how I wish my future setup will sound like, it has that old school rumble with new school attitude. Mark is a great guy to talk with and would not ask any questions if he asked a favor from me. Hope you get that car tuned and see 9's brother. - Zach

Schism · 09-05-2009, 08:36 PM

Give us an update, it's been two months

4-v mach · 09-05-2009, 09:29 PM

OK so if I still have any followers, you may be disappointed in me. Things have gone absolutely nowhere really.

After my crazy summer semester of college, I went to the Keys for lobster season and haven't messed with the car at all. And now with my LAST semester of school started and paid for

I am back on low funds so...

I have decided to up the ante on exhaust. No more is the full stainless and ceramic Bassani that I have been satisfied with for 3 years. I have been looking at American Racing Header company or Kooks for stainless long tubes.

I talked to, and I apologize if the name is incorrect, but I believe it's Nick, the owner of American Racing Headers. He recommended 1 3/4" primary tubes merging into a 3" collector then tapering to 2 1/2" in order to bolt to any cat-back system for my application. He seemed more than happy to talk to me and wanted to make the headers for my car. It is this kind of customer service that he prides himself on and wins customers over. He also said he'd bend me a set of turndown pipes to throw on the back of my Bassani (or any 2 1/2") mufflers.

The question is, should I do ARH or Kooks, which I have heard awesome things about for fitment, power levels, etc? Either way, I do feel that I have power left on the table if I don't switch having such a stout motor.

I want to get this sort of thing worked out before Justin tunes the car so I don't have to go back later and spend more $$. I know this all may sound ironic to my low funds statement but jeeze $55k in parts later, I want my car to run **** fast!!! I haven't raced in a year and a half since Pinks All Out Gainesville...

I guess one last point for now. My buddy has a virtually brand new set of Borla Stinger mufflers. Should I attempt to sell my Bassani system as a whole and use the different mufflers and turn downs, or just throw the turndowns on the Bassani? With the bracing on my rear end and anti-roll bar, tail pipes aren't an essential to me anymore. Hey less weight too!!

Zach, sorry to steal your header pic but some may not know how nice the ARH stuff really is:

Schism · 09-05-2009, 09:50 PM

We'll when it comes to headers, and I've had both kooks and american racing, it's really which stamp you want on the driver's side header.... kook's or arh? Honestly they are just two great companies to go with, no questions about it. I wish you weren't so far away as I would help you out with your exhaust system, I'm just about to bend up my 3" catback for drag racing only.

Hell just sell the whole exhaust system and start from scratch! I love the sound of borla stingers... it should sound awesome with those higher lift cams aswell. I've got a set of brand new flowmaster 44-series if you ever want to try them out.

-Zach

Lonestar7 · 09-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Either way I would go Borla I have them and there awesome and with your engine they would be great. I am moded and set off car alarms with your system it would really sound mean and nasty!

LS

ModularSpeed · 09-05-2009, 10:28 PM

Screw the 2.5" merge...

Go 3" all the way, and run some 3" MAC pro dumps.....talk about bringing out the sound of the cams...

Schism · 09-05-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModularSpeed

Screw the 2.5" merge...

Go 3" all the way, and run some 3" MAC pro dumps.....talk about bringing out the sound of the cams...

Tell em' Kelly, 3'' baby!

I LOVE the way my 2.5" magnaflow catback sounds, but I can't wait to hear the 3" magnaflow race mufflers SCREAM for dear life!

PharmDMach1 · 09-06-2009, 09:18 AM

Car looks amazing bro!!! That motor couldn't have been put together by any better people!!

If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing with the stock shortblock?

4-v mach · 09-06-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModularSpeed

Screw the 2.5" merge...

Go 3" all the way, and run some 3" MAC pro dumps.....talk about bringing out the sound of the cams...

are there any others that offer 3" dumps that bolt up to our cars requiring no fabrication? how does the mac stuff sound?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PharmDMach1

Car looks amazing bro!!! That motor couldn't have been put together by any better people!!

If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing with the stock shortblock?

it's sitting on an engine stand in the garage along with every other stock part off my car. i've never really sold any of it lol

06-26-2009, 10:25 PM	#27
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock fluidyne and cf jlt ram air came the other day and are installed. just a few more things to button up on the underside and fill with fluids... __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

06-28-2009, 10:23 PM	#29
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock well i got the headers on and finished a few more things today. i think i want to leave the xpipe off to hear this thing rumble on first startup. i'm having a hell of a time trying to get the coolant hoses off the stock radiator to put on the new one. any suggestions? after the hoses go on, it's time to fill with fluids, crank the motor over for oil pressure, throw in some tr6's, and then fire it up! __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

06-29-2009, 10:07 AM	#31
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock thanks, that was my next step. i left the whole assembly out in the sun yesterday to see if it would heat up but only the metal brackets did. i'll try my heat gun first then move on to the torch. had to go shopping yesterday for a bunch more little things like new compression fittings, coolant, oil, plugs, etc. hopefully by tuesday it'll run __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

06-30-2009, 10:02 PM	#32
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock well almost everything is done and the motor fired up for the first time tonight. wow, does it ever sound like a cammed big block! i'm excited... __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

06-30-2009, 10:18 PM	#33
rich1 AUTOMACHTIC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RTP/ N.C. Posts: 4,813	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Wheres the Video ???? Btw I got the Heater Tube Thanks. __________________ UPGRADES...Tokico Illuminas Borla SS Catback , Steeda Underdrives , Strut Brace , HPM Lower K Brace , L /C Arms , U /C Arms , HPM PanHard Bar, K&N FRPK 2, GOODYEAR GT1 , MRT- H-Pipe , JLT VaporTraps , SLP-12'" Tips! , FRPP Shorty 1 5/8 Headers , Brembo D/S & PBR D/S Rotors ,FRPP Alum.DS ,Roys 3/8 Spacer , SVT Focus 255 pump SCTsw Chip PRO-DYNOjet NA 300.01hp /315tq (Auto) ,Innovate W/B ,Compucar Wet Kit (90jet) + Heater and E Gauge * 360 hp/385tq 12.5 -1/4 @112

07-01-2009, 05:36 PM	#35
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock nice! im jealous.. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

07-02-2009, 02:01 PM	#36
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock here's one of the original startups, headers only http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4mO6kGBY4 __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

07-03-2009, 05:35 PM	#39
SeadudeRXP Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbus,Ga Posts: 176	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock **** Mark sounds good. I cant believe i havent made it over there yet to see it. Sounds great cant wait to see it in person. __________________ 2003 Oxford White Mach 1 Tampa Stock

07-07-2009, 01:00 PM	#41
snakebitx2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 746	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Sounds slow! Lets put some miles on her so Justin can finish her. __________________ Eaton Swapped, Pro-Motion built transmission, and 1.55 60' built rear end

07-13-2009, 05:38 AM	#42
Schism HVAC slut Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 355	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock I had the chance to see this car in person over the weekend. Wow I must say I was impressed... this guy has some awesome attention to detail and takes no shortcuts. The sound of the car is exacty how I wish my future setup will sound like, it has that old school rumble with new school attitude. Mark is a great guy to talk with and would not ask any questions if he asked a favor from me. Hope you get that car tuned and see 9's brother. - Zach

09-05-2009, 08:36 PM	#43
Schism HVAC slut Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 355	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Give us an update, it's been two months

09-05-2009, 09:29 PM	#44
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock OK so if I still have any followers, you may be disappointed in me. Things have gone absolutely nowhere really. After my crazy summer semester of college, I went to the Keys for lobster season and haven't messed with the car at all. And now with my LAST semester of school started and paid for I am back on low funds so... I have decided to up the ante on exhaust. No more is the full stainless and ceramic Bassani that I have been satisfied with for 3 years. I have been looking at American Racing Header company or Kooks for stainless long tubes. I talked to, and I apologize if the name is incorrect, but I believe it's Nick, the owner of American Racing Headers. He recommended 1 3/4" primary tubes merging into a 3" collector then tapering to 2 1/2" in order to bolt to any cat-back system for my application. He seemed more than happy to talk to me and wanted to make the headers for my car. It is this kind of customer service that he prides himself on and wins customers over. He also said he'd bend me a set of turndown pipes to throw on the back of my Bassani (or any 2 1/2") mufflers. The question is, should I do ARH or Kooks, which I have heard awesome things about for fitment, power levels, etc? Either way, I do feel that I have power left on the table if I don't switch having such a stout motor. I want to get this sort of thing worked out before Justin tunes the car so I don't have to go back later and spend more $$. I know this all may sound ironic to my low funds statement but jeeze $55k in parts later, I want my car to run ** fast!!! I haven't raced in a year and a half since Pinks All Out Gainesville... I guess one last point for now. My buddy has a virtually brand new set of Borla Stinger mufflers. Should I attempt to sell my Bassani system as a whole and use the different mufflers and turn downs, or just throw the turndowns on the Bassani? With the bracing on my rear end and anti-roll bar, tail pipes aren't an essential to me anymore. Hey less weight too!! Zach, sorry to steal your header pic but some may not know how nice the ARH stuff really is: __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer** Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-05-2009, 09:50 PM	#45
Schism HVAC slut Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 355	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock We'll when it comes to headers, and I've had both kooks and american racing, it's really which stamp you want on the driver's side header.... kook's or arh? Honestly they are just two great companies to go with, no questions about it. I wish you weren't so far away as I would help you out with your exhaust system, I'm just about to bend up my 3" catback for drag racing only. Hell just sell the whole exhaust system and start from scratch! I love the sound of borla stingers... it should sound awesome with those higher lift cams aswell. I've got a set of brand new flowmaster 44-series if you ever want to try them out. -Zach

09-05-2009, 10:13 PM	#46
Lonestar7 Guest Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,152	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Either way I would go Borla I have them and there awesome and with your engine they would be great. I am moded and set off car alarms with your system it would really sound mean and nasty! LS

09-05-2009, 10:28 PM	#47
ModularSpeed Mach Underhood Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FL Posts: 1,677	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Screw the 2.5" merge... Go 3" all the way, and run some 3" MAC pro dumps.....talk about bringing out the sound of the cams... __________________ Stock 4.6 4V, Cobra Cammed: 11.63@117.84 - N/A T45 / 4.56 / Drag Radials - N/A 4V Video

09-06-2009, 09:18 AM	#49
PharmDMach1 Whipple Blown! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 642	Re: My New Kris Starnes & Al Papito Longblock Car looks amazing bro!!! That motor couldn't have been put together by any better people!! If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing with the stock shortblock? __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Whipple 2.3 2008 GT- STS Single Turbo

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