I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

G · 08-13-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mtm87tx

well i have to say the insane sticker from the start caused noone to buy them i guess and now the greedy dealers who could have easily got a nice 10k over without being ridiculuos have several to choose from

i knew this car wouldnt meet the hype, what are we thinking they cost out the door?

and im sure some people will still pay over but they might be sitting for a while

Just think of all the ready buyers at MSRP or slightly higher that are pissed off now. Many are driving new Vettes as we have seen right here on the reg.

Maybe I'll get one for

mtm87tx · 08-13-2006, 01:11 PM

id like to have one to, i think i would do a red/white or a white/blue coupe

98StangRidah · 08-13-2006, 01:30 PM

I think black coupe w/ red stripes would be awesome!

Ralph Greene · 08-13-2006, 02:28 PM

I believe the recent announcement of the retail version of the 350H coming out is taking some of the demand away from the GT 500. I've had a blower car before, and would much prefer the lower cost lighter weight NA aluminum block 4.6 version (VS iron block 5.4) with better fuel economy and no gas guzzler tax like the GT 500.

There may soon be a surplus of the (sorta) Shelby Mustangs.

Mach&Roll · 08-13-2006, 02:44 PM

What is MSRP on one of those cars anyways?

JusMachN · 08-13-2006, 03:01 PM

Hmmmm, well I don't think I will see one any where near MSRP out here. I guess when the craze is really over, I can fly to the mainland and get one, ship it out here and still be less money spent than I would pay out here.

chrismach · 08-13-2006, 03:28 PM

They are still going for way over invoice on ebay!!! WTF, I was hoping they were coming down to at least MSRP!!

ebay gt500s

Ralph Greene · 08-13-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

The 350H hould have been a 5.4 DOHC ALUMINUM like the Navi!

An all aluminum NA 5.4 with 6 speed manual, would be my preference also for 350.

3150Mach1 · 08-13-2006, 06:29 PM

I still think this Saleen Boss 302 is the best new mustang upgrade package. I know its a 3 valve NA but it just looks badazz.

http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/art...&s=NewYork2006

3150Mach1 · 08-13-2006, 07:23 PM

Also like this one

Fenixfire · 08-13-2006, 08:22 PM

Mmmmmmm...... T56 with aluminum 4v 5.4 N/A.........that would be downright tasty

birdman941 · 08-13-2006, 08:59 PM

My understanding is that Ford has no interest in
the additional engineering and machine work ( co$t) required
to "wet sump" the Ford GT aluminum 5.4 block.
I wish, but it's doubtful.

bris09 · 08-13-2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

My understanding is that Ford has no interest in
the additional engineering and machine work ( co$t) required
to "wet sump" the Ford GT aluminum 5.4 block.
I wish, but it's doubtful.

So give it to us as a dry sump. That just means more power, nothing wrong with that.

birdman941 · 08-13-2006, 09:31 PM

Except the oil pump (external) sits where the AC compressor would be.

bris09 · 08-13-2006, 09:34 PM

That's ok. I don't use the a/c that much anyhow.

Tony Alonso · 08-13-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Greene

An all aluminum NA 5.4 with 6 speed manual, would be my preference also for 350.

Hey, Ralph - do you think that 5.4 block, even in aluminum, might shift the weight distribution too much forward as compared to a 5.0L engine?

gotmach · 08-13-2006, 10:37 PM

this Shelby has 30 day tags and the owner was proud to tell everyone he paid 5k over sticker. Well is'nt that special. Just another person helping dealers rip off the public! Suckers....

gotmach · 08-13-2006, 10:48 PM

oh yeah, did you check out the size of the snakes on the side of the new Shelby, wow , looks almost life size.. sssssssssssssssssssssss

02mach1 · 08-14-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach150BP

Also like this one

That's kit like on the new Mustang the B2 or B1

it is lot cheaper then buying GT500.

Ralph Greene · 08-14-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso

Hey, Ralph - do you think that 5.4 block, even in aluminum, might shift the weight distribution too much forward as compared to a 5.0L engine?

We know one of the advantages of the new generally heavier 05/06/07 Mustangs is their improved F/R weight distribution....wheels moved forward etc. I believe that is one reason they drag race well with slightly less power and more weight than our Mach's.

But wasn't 2000R an all aluminum 5.4 (having a brain fart), and don't remember complaints about weight.

I would settle for 4.6 4V with latest VVT stuff, better intake (s), and 6 speed mauual in new model. Maybe with some of the parts from 5.0.

birdman941 · 08-14-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Greene

We know one of the advantages of the new generally heavier 05/06/07 Mustangs is their improved F/R weight distribution....wheels moved forward etc. I believe that is one reason they drag race well with slightly less power and more weight than our Mach's.

But wasn't 2000R an all aluminum 5.4 (having a brain fart), and don't remember complaints about weight.

I would settle for 4.6 4V with latest VVT stuff, better intake (s), and 6 speed mauual in new model. Maybe with some of the parts from 5.0.

The 00"R" had a cast iron (Navigator) Block.

Tony Alonso · 08-14-2006, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Greene

We know one of the advantages of the new generally heavier 05/06/07 Mustangs is their improved F/R weight distribution....wheels moved forward etc. I believe that is one reason they drag race well with slightly less power and more weight than our Mach's.

But wasn't 2000R an all aluminum 5.4 (having a brain fart), and don't remember complaints about weight.

I would settle for 4.6 4V with latest VVT stuff, better intake (s), and 6 speed mauual in new model. Maybe with some of the parts from 5.0.

Yep, it definitely is improved - 54/46 for the GT according to what I've read. That distribution, while improved, is still off from 50/50. That's why I was wondering if the slight weight increase of a taller deck engine would mater.

The 2000 R had an iron block V8. Even though people did not talk much about weight, I thought it was pretty husky at 3600 lbs. The fact it had no A/C, sound deadner, and back seat was what many people looked at and probably thought "light weight racer". That engine was heavy, just not as heavy as one with a supercharger and its plumbing.

Ralph Greene · 08-14-2006, 11:40 AM

If Ford were to offer our basic engine with V V T, 6 speed manual, and other HP improvements that have come along since our cars were developed, I imagine I would be selling my Mach. Special models hold their value better than mass produced Mustang GT's.

And....would prefer Shelby's name not be on it.

birdman941 · 08-14-2006, 01:34 PM

I would imagine an US spec Aussie Boss 290 ( N.A. 5.4 32V, nearly 400/400)
would go nicely into the 05 and up Mustang body style.

got03mach1 · 08-14-2006, 02:05 PM

I dont think the hype is over. I just called my local dealer today and he told me all the other dealers are selling for 75k+. And they are willin to go 70K. He told me its based on what EBAY! is telling everyone what the price is at. I just laughed and hung up. What a fool

08-13-2006, 01:11 PM	#27
mtm87tx Guest Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 1,836	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER id like to have one to, i think i would do a red/white or a white/blue coupe

08-13-2006, 01:30 PM	#28
98StangRidah Where'd my zafu go? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,707	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER I think black coupe w/ red stripes would be awesome! __________________ For Sale: 2004 Comp. Orange Mach1 - purchased 3/26/2005 Exhaust MRT H-Pipe with cats Magnaflow catback Suspension Bilstein struts & shocks Steeda sport springs MM - caster/camber plates, steering rack bushings, swaybar bushings and endlinks 18x9 Bullits with Michlein PS2s in 255/40 Other stuff - MGW shifter, MRT hood struts and black exhaust tips, SCT tune, PHP spacer

08-13-2006, 02:28 PM	#29
Ralph Greene Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Longwood Fl Posts: 3,724	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER I believe the recent announcement of the retail version of the 350H coming out is taking some of the demand away from the GT 500. I've had a blower car before, and would much prefer the lower cost lighter weight NA aluminum block 4.6 version (VS iron block 5.4) with better fuel economy and no gas guzzler tax like the GT 500. There may soon be a surplus of the (sorta) Shelby Mustangs. __________________ Ralph Greene SOLD 03 Mach 1 (Torch Red) 5 Speed Manual Real Ford FR 500 18X9 Wheels 255X40X18 Michelin Tires Steeda Sport Springs (isolators in) Tokico HP Struts/Shocks Steeda 4 bolt CC Plates Poly Offset Steering Rack Bushings Steeda TriAx Shifter Magnaflow X/Cats Bassani Catback with Removable Baffles

08-13-2006, 02:44 PM	#30
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08-13-2006, 03:01 PM	#31
JusMachN 2008 S281AF #9 of 24 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,659	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER Hmmmm, well I don't think I will see one any where near MSRP out here. I guess when the craze is really over, I can fly to the mainland and get one, ship it out here and still be less money spent than I would pay out here.

08-13-2006, 03:28 PM	#32
chrismach Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 70	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER They are still going for way over invoice on ebay!!! WTF, I was hoping they were coming down to at least MSRP!! ebay gt500s

08-13-2006, 06:29 PM	#34
3150Mach1 Love my Mach Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 13,678	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER I still think this Saleen Boss 302 is the best new mustang upgrade package. I know its a 3 valve NA but it just looks badazz. http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/art...&s=NewYork2006 __________________ 2003 slowmatic 11.105@117mph w/125 shot of Nitrous best to date Kooks LTsw/OR X, elect cutouts, JLT RAI w/C&L 85 MAH,1" Spacer,PP Lower intake,Accufab TB,160 T-stat,EF Cooling Mod,NX Kit,Mez Electric Water pump,SLP Linelock,FRPP 4.10s-Alum Dif Cover-Alum Driveshaft & SL, Steeda Bumpsteer,MM Alum rack bushings,Deep Alum Tranny pan,Predator,Steeda AUCAs,MM ALCAs, Dspecs,MM CC plates & FLSFCs,MRT Guage cluster,AEM WB,MRT hood struts,Seq TLs, carbon fiber hood/trunk/Cobra wing,220 amp alt

08-13-2006, 07:23 PM	#35
3150Mach1 Love my Mach Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 13,678	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER Also like this one Attached Thumbnails __________________ 2003 slowmatic 11.105@117mph w/125 shot of Nitrous best to date Kooks LTsw/OR X, elect cutouts, JLT RAI w/C&L 85 MAH,1" Spacer,PP Lower intake,Accufab TB,160 T-stat,EF Cooling Mod,NX Kit,Mez Electric Water pump,SLP Linelock,FRPP 4.10s-Alum Dif Cover-Alum Driveshaft & SL, Steeda Bumpsteer,MM Alum rack bushings,Deep Alum Tranny pan,Predator,Steeda AUCAs,MM ALCAs, Dspecs,MM CC plates & FLSFCs,MRT Guage cluster,AEM WB,MRT hood struts,Seq TLs, carbon fiber hood/trunk/Cobra wing,220 amp alt

08-13-2006, 08:22 PM	#36
Fenixfire Its stock....No really! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 4,433	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER Mmmmmmm...... T56 with aluminum 4v 5.4 N/A.........that would be downright tasty

08-13-2006, 08:59 PM	#37
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER My understanding is that Ford has no interest in the additional engineering and machine work ( co$t) required to "wet sump" the Ford GT aluminum 5.4 block. I wish, but it's doubtful. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

08-13-2006, 09:31 PM	#39
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER Except the oil pump (external) sits where the AC compressor would be. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

08-13-2006, 09:34 PM	#40
bris09 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Middletown, PA Posts: 3,992	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER That's ok. I don't use the a/c that much anyhow. __________________ Brian 04 Azure Mach 1 Mods: Enough to not be the slowest, but nowhere near enough to be the fastest. 17 Fusion Sport Now faster than the Mach 96 Laser Red Cobra Vert For those days you just wanna cruise with the top down 89 Shelby CSX Still rocking the VNT and Fiberides.

08-13-2006, 10:37 PM	#42
gotmach Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lynchburg Va. Posts: 2,046	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER this Shelby has 30 day tags and the owner was proud to tell everyone he paid 5k over sticker. Well is'nt that special. Just another person helping dealers rip off the public! Suckers.... Attached Thumbnails __________________ GOT MACH ? "does your body good"

08-13-2006, 10:48 PM	#43
gotmach Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lynchburg Va. Posts: 2,046	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER oh yeah, did you check out the size of the snakes on the side of the new Shelby, wow , looks almost life size.. sssssssssssssssssssssss Attached Thumbnails __________________ GOT MACH ? "does your body good"

08-14-2006, 11:40 AM	#48
Ralph Greene Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Longwood Fl Posts: 3,724	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER If Ford were to offer our basic engine with V V T, 6 speed manual, and other HP improvements that have come along since our cars were developed, I imagine I would be selling my Mach. Special models hold their value better than mass produced Mustang GT's. And....would prefer Shelby's name not be on it. __________________ Ralph Greene SOLD 03 Mach 1 (Torch Red) 5 Speed Manual Real Ford FR 500 18X9 Wheels 255X40X18 Michelin Tires Steeda Sport Springs (isolators in) Tokico HP Struts/Shocks Steeda 4 bolt CC Plates Poly Offset Steering Rack Bushings Steeda TriAx Shifter Magnaflow X/Cats Bassani Catback with Removable Baffles

08-14-2006, 01:34 PM	#49
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER I would imagine an US spec Aussie Boss 290 ( N.A. 5.4 32V, nearly 400/400) would go nicely into the 05 and up Mustang body style. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

08-14-2006, 02:05 PM	#50
got03mach1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 814	Re: I THINK THE GT500 DEALER CRAZE is OVER I dont think the hype is over. I just called my local dealer today and he told me all the other dealers are selling for 75k+. And they are willin to go 70K. He told me its based on what EBAY! is telling everyone what the price is at. I just laughed and hung up. What a fool __________________ 03 Oxford White Mach 1. Mods: Heaton

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