Intake by NA SVT - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

AzureMach03 · 05-15-2009, 03:08 PM

haha well if 311 whp is something to be made fun of with my mods he can go ahead I have above average numbers!

Stopsign32v · 05-15-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AzureMach03

haha well if 311 whp is something to be made fun of with my mods he can go ahead I have above average numbers!

I was not messing with you. Those are nice numbers for your mods. I'd like to see what you would do with a 1/2" spacer and a straight through 2.5" catback.

AzureMach03 · 05-15-2009, 08:06 PM

thanks man yeah i would like to see it too. I really dont know if the 1/2 inch would be any better, i mean its just 1/8th of an inch more which is nothing. The catback may help some, i prob will do long tubes and 98 intake cams this summer and im going to home port an intake and hopefully hit 350..

na svt · 05-17-2009, 08:40 AM

Pics of a completed intake show nothing but a clean, shiny piece of aluminum. The important stuff is in the power it makes. With that, it's too bad this won't get dyno'd for few months because I'm interested in seeing how a short unner performs on a Mach with 96-98 coba cams.

I have a bolt-on mach lined up for some testing, we're going to do back to back testting of 3 intakes that have different runner lengths and plenum volumes. After that is done I may try to talk him into some cobra cams and do it all again.

AzureMach03 · 05-17-2009, 09:41 AM

Yeah I am thinking the combo with the 98 intake cams will work well. And I have had some experience porting some 5.0 intakes and heads so Ive got a spare 4v intake to practice on!

Roy · 05-17-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by na svt

Pics of a completed intake show nothing but a clean, shiny piece of aluminum. The important stuff is in the power it makes. With that, it's too bad this won't get dyno'd for few months because I'm interested in seeing how a short unner performs on a Mach with 96-98 coba cams.

I have a bolt-on mach lined up for some testing, we're going to do back to back testting of 3 intakes that have different runner lengths and plenum volumes. After that is done I may try to talk him into some cobra cams and do it all again.

What is the runner length?

UIN2IT · 06-13-2009, 02:45 PM

Any more word on this!?

Looking to see the numbers on teh 98 Cams with the PSR!

04machwon22 · 06-13-2009, 03:13 PM

i lost 2 hp with my ported intake.... im trying to get some 98 cobra cams to see if it could help....

PCPRO · 06-13-2009, 03:26 PM

I've been laid off work a lot, so I haven't had the cash to redyno. The family comes first, so the car has to wait until things pick back up.

PCPRO · 06-13-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 04machwon22

i lost 2 hp with my ported intake.... im trying to get some 98 cobra cams to see if it could help....

Did you just dyno, or did you retune and dyno?

04machwon22 · 06-13-2009, 04:22 PM

retune and dyno...... dynoed 323 with all my bolt ons first dyno with the ported intake was 308! they bumped up the timing and the most he could get out of it was 321.... but it was was pouring down rain the whole 2.5 hours down to the shop and the humidity was 60 percent but u would think i would have gained atleast 1 hp.....

R-code17815 · 06-13-2009, 04:37 PM

Temp. & Humidity can make a big diffrence, you can dyno the same car on the same dyno on two diffrent days and see 5hp diffrence. 2-3hp I couldnt even justify worring about. Redyno it on a 60 degree day with no humidity if you really want every last hp on paper.

Mach916 · 06-13-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 04machwon22

retune and dyno...... dynoed 323 with all my bolt ons first dyno with the ported intake was 308! they bumped up the timing and the most he could get out of it was 321.... but it was was pouring down rain the whole 2.5 hours down to the shop and the humidity was 60 percent but u would think i would have gained atleast 1 hp.....

whos intake are your running??

04machwon22 · 06-13-2009, 08:45 PM

..... i dont want to mention the name..... not trying to throw someone under the bus

Stopsign32v · 06-13-2009, 10:24 PM

See what the car runs. That is what will tell you if there was a difference. Dyno numbers are fun and exciting but what the car runs is what matters. Any track numbers before the intake?

BIG4CAM · 06-13-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

See what the car runs. That is what will tell you if there was a difference. Dyno numbers are fun and exciting but what the car runs is what matters. Any track numbers before the intake?

I agree completely. I too will be dyno and dragstrip pass back to back. Roys in the process of doing my intake and just finished the 98 cam install. I know my ET's were consistent 12.5/12.6 at 108-109mph. Interested to see what itll do when its done.

UIN2IT · 06-13-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG4CAM

I agree completely. I too will be dyno and dragstrip pass back to back. Roys in the process of doing my intake and just finished the 98 cam install. I know my ET's were consistent 12.5/12.6 at 108-109mph. Interested to see what itll do when its done.

So am I!!

BIG4CAM · 06-21-2009, 09:04 PM

Got my cams and ported intake put together finally with a 7/8" spacer and a homemade 4inch RAI (I copied the JLT), Waiting to get the nod from my tuner to bring it in. I roadtested it today and felt strong up top, but it has flatspots, the tune should correct this.

Nazman · 07-18-2009, 07:42 PM

@ PC Pro:

Wish you the best with the 96 cams they are making some decent power. Here is some info we just got!

Just off the dyno:

03 Mach 1 Motor (standard bolt-on) + 96-98 Cobra intake cams STOCK INTAKE.

After Dyno tune: 334RWHP @ ~6150RPM (peak) (287RWHP by 6800RPM)

Swap stock intake with Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner:

New Peak: 351RWHP@ ~6625RPMs (which I belive may be a new record) (making over 10RWHP/TQ sooner by 5000RPM than old peak) and a SICK 46+RWHP gain by 6800RPM and power was flat as hell with no sign of dropping off by 7100RPM!!!!!

Timing at a "mild" 23 deg!!!!

Looking foward to your data!

Naz

PCPRO · 07-18-2009, 07:51 PM

Hi Naz,

Is that the Mach motor that you put in your cobra?

Nazman · 07-18-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PCPRO

Hi Naz,

Is that the Mach motor that you put in your cobra?

No. One of my customers.

2003 Mach 1
BBK LTs (may not be optimal for combo)
STOCK Trottle Body
Mid-Pipe
Cat Back
NO Pullies
4.30 Gears
STOCK Water Pump
AL Flywheel
STOCK DS
STOCK Damper, MAF, Injectors, No spacer

So....there may be a few more HP with pullies, Electric Water Pump and more timing!!!

We have seen best power/TQ numbers at a little higher timing and commanded AF numbers.

Naz

PCPRO · 07-18-2009, 08:04 PM

Great numbers! Are the cams installed straight up or advanced?

The hydroboost went out on my car, and I just got it back last week. I just installed an aluminum flywheel and picked up a set of mod camponents gears, I will hopefully be hooking up with Todd shortly to advance the cams and redyno.

Nazman · 07-18-2009, 08:09 PM

Cams were not degreed.

The motor on my car has a Mach 1 motor, with all and I mean all the bolt-ons and 96-98 cams.

Will add a Nazty PSR and will dyno....I did degree my cams and the tune is a "little more agressive!" should out perform those!

Numbers coming soon!

Naz

PCPRO · 07-18-2009, 08:11 PM

What were the torque numbers on his dyno?

tmhutch · 07-19-2009, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nazman

Just off the dyno:

03 Mach 1 Motor (standard bolt-on) + 96-98 Cobra intake cams STOCK INTAKE.

After Dyno tune: 334RWHP @ ~6150RPM (peak) (287RWHP by 6800RPM)

Swap stock intake with Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner:

New Peak: 351RWHP@ ~6625RPMs (which I belive may be a new record) (making over 10RWHP/TQ sooner by 5000RPM than old peak) and a SICK 46+RWHP gain by 6800RPM and power was flat as hell with no sign of dropping off by 7100RPM!!!!!

Timing at a "mild" 23 deg!!!!

Looking foward to your data!

Naz

Insane numbers! We have a new bolt on champion on the horsepower list!

Why so conservative on the timing?

Todd

05-15-2009, 03:08 PM	#26
AzureMach03 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,117	Re: Intake by NA SVT haha well if 311 whp is something to be made fun of with my mods he can go ahead I have above average numbers! __________________ 1999 Cobra Vert Built and Novi Blown :rockon: 03 Black Mach- Sold 00 Lightning- Sold 03 AB Mach- Sold

05-15-2009, 08:06 PM	#28
AzureMach03 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,117	Re: Intake by NA SVT thanks man yeah i would like to see it too. I really dont know if the 1/2 inch would be any better, i mean its just 1/8th of an inch more which is nothing. The catback may help some, i prob will do long tubes and 98 intake cams this summer and im going to home port an intake and hopefully hit 350.. __________________ 1999 Cobra Vert Built and Novi Blown :rockon: 03 Black Mach- Sold 00 Lightning- Sold 03 AB Mach- Sold

05-17-2009, 08:40 AM	#29
na svt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beavercreek, oh Posts: 4,695	Re: Intake by NA SVT Pics of a completed intake show nothing but a clean, shiny piece of aluminum. The important stuff is in the power it makes. With that, it's too bad this won't get dyno'd for few months because I'm interested in seeing how a short unner performs on a Mach with 96-98 coba cams. I have a bolt-on mach lined up for some testing, we're going to do back to back testting of 3 intakes that have different runner lengths and plenum volumes. After that is done I may try to talk him into some cobra cams and do it all again.

05-17-2009, 09:41 AM	#30
AzureMach03 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,117	Re: Intake by NA SVT Yeah I am thinking the combo with the 98 intake cams will work well. And I have had some experience porting some 5.0 intakes and heads so Ive got a spare 4v intake to practice on! __________________ 1999 Cobra Vert Built and Novi Blown :rockon: 03 Black Mach- Sold 00 Lightning- Sold 03 AB Mach- Sold

06-13-2009, 02:45 PM	#32
UIN2IT Doug aka "TK" Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 584	Re: Intake by NA SVT Any more word on this!? Looking to see the numbers on teh 98 Cams with the PSR! __________________ '03 Black Mach1 w/IUP - 5spd - 306rwhp 312rwtq - SCT Tuner ~ Air diverter ~ 1/2" Intake Spacer ~ CnL 85mm Maf & Trueflow pipe 18" Bullitts 255-40 & 295-35 ~ 10% Tint ~ Painted Calipers ~ Magnaflow Cat-back 3.5" Rolled Tips ~ '03 Cobra IRS ~ H&R/Eibach springs w/Bilstiens ~ FRPP 4.10 gears Mac Pro-Chamber ~ Hurst Short Throw Shifter ~ '01 Cobra Bumper w/Mach Chin spoiler WISH LIST:Full Length SFC's // 4pc March Pulleys // Ported Intake Manifold // Custom grind Cams

06-13-2009, 03:13 PM	#33
04machwon22 FOR SALE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Posts: 733	Re: Intake by NA SVT i lost 2 hp with my ported intake.... im trying to get some 98 cobra cams to see if it could help.... __________________ 2004 Azure Blue Mach 1 with every bolt on-SOLD 2014 Mustang GT 5.0- Bone Stock... for now

06-13-2009, 03:26 PM	#34
PCPRO Big Daddy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lawrenceburg, Ky. Posts: 322	Re: Intake by NA SVT I've been laid off work a lot, so I haven't had the cash to redyno. The family comes first, so the car has to wait until things pick back up. __________________ Custom cams spec'd by nasvt,Accufab t-body, ported short runner by nasvt,Roy's 3/4" intake spacer,JLT RAI,AFM 10" filter,PMAS 95mm Velocity Maf,Stewart water pump,Even-flow cooling mod,Steeda UD damper,Steeda wp pulley,Cobra R alt. & p/s pulleys,ARH 1.750" Lt's & off road X-pipe,Magnaflow catback,Fidanza aluminum flywheel,fidanza 2.1 clutch and lightweight billet pressure plate, FRPP aluminum d/s. 345rwhp & 340rwtq with 98 cobra cams.....numbers with new cams coming soon!

06-13-2009, 04:22 PM	#36
04machwon22 FOR SALE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Posts: 733	Re: Intake by NA SVT retune and dyno...... dynoed 323 with all my bolt ons first dyno with the ported intake was 308! they bumped up the timing and the most he could get out of it was 321.... but it was was pouring down rain the whole 2.5 hours down to the shop and the humidity was 60 percent but u would think i would have gained atleast 1 hp..... __________________ 2004 Azure Blue Mach 1 with every bolt on-SOLD 2014 Mustang GT 5.0- Bone Stock... for now

06-13-2009, 04:37 PM	#37
R-code17815 The MODfather #7046 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 1,360	Re: Intake by NA SVT Temp. & Humidity can make a big diffrence, you can dyno the same car on the same dyno on two diffrent days and see 5hp diffrence. 2-3hp I couldnt even justify worring about. Redyno it on a 60 degree day with no humidity if you really want every last hp on paper. __________________ R-code17815 2003 Mach1 6-spd. Black Black Sunshine... The never ending "Work in Progress" RTCTTFMF

06-13-2009, 08:45 PM	#39
04machwon22 FOR SALE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Posts: 733	Re: Intake by NA SVT ..... i dont want to mention the name..... not trying to throw someone under the bus __________________ 2004 Azure Blue Mach 1 with every bolt on-SOLD 2014 Mustang GT 5.0- Bone Stock... for now

06-13-2009, 10:24 PM	#40
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Intake by NA SVT See what the car runs. That is what will tell you if there was a difference. Dyno numbers are fun and exciting but what the car runs is what matters. Any track numbers before the intake? __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

06-21-2009, 09:04 PM	#43
BIG4CAM Finally Bought One Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Returning Pop Bottles Posts: 476	Re: Intake by NA SVT Got my cams and ported intake put together finally with a 7/8" spacer and a homemade 4inch RAI (I copied the JLT), Waiting to get the nod from my tuner to bring it in. I roadtested it today and felt strong up top, but it has flatspots, the tune should correct this. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 32v DOHC Tremec TKO 600 Mods: Roy's Intake, 98 cams, LT's with 3 inch x pipe and spintechs, 4.56 gears Best ET: 12.157@112.8 1.627 60ft Best ET street tire: 12.89@110 1997 Mustang GT 4r70w 232rwhp/287tq 2001 P.I. motor swap The slug Cruiser's best ET 13.89@98.7 1994 Lightning w276k miles 89gt camshaft w/hughes 2400k convertor 14.58@ 91mph 2.0560ft Rusty but Trusty, still getting down and dirty on the street

07-18-2009, 07:42 PM	#44
Nazman Nazty Performance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX. Posts: 780	Re: Intake by NA SVT @ PC Pro: Wish you the best with the 96 cams they are making some decent power. Here is some info we just got! Just off the dyno: 03 Mach 1 Motor (standard bolt-on) + 96-98 Cobra intake cams STOCK INTAKE. After Dyno tune: 334RWHP @ ~6150RPM (peak) (287RWHP by 6800RPM) Swap stock intake with Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner: New Peak: 351RWHP@ ~6625RPMs (which I belive may be a new record) (making over 10RWHP/TQ sooner by 5000RPM than old peak) and a SICK 46+RWHP gain by 6800RPM and power was flat as hell with no sign of dropping off by 7100RPM!!!!! Timing at a "mild" 23 deg!!!! Looking foward to your data! Naz

07-18-2009, 07:51 PM	#45
PCPRO Big Daddy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lawrenceburg, Ky. Posts: 322	Re: Intake by NA SVT Hi Naz, Is that the Mach motor that you put in your cobra? __________________ Custom cams spec'd by nasvt,Accufab t-body, ported short runner by nasvt,Roy's 3/4" intake spacer,JLT RAI,AFM 10" filter,PMAS 95mm Velocity Maf,Stewart water pump,Even-flow cooling mod,Steeda UD damper,Steeda wp pulley,Cobra R alt. & p/s pulleys,ARH 1.750" Lt's & off road X-pipe,Magnaflow catback,Fidanza aluminum flywheel,fidanza 2.1 clutch and lightweight billet pressure plate, FRPP aluminum d/s. 345rwhp & 340rwtq with 98 cobra cams.....numbers with new cams coming soon!

07-18-2009, 08:04 PM	#47
PCPRO Big Daddy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lawrenceburg, Ky. Posts: 322	Re: Intake by NA SVT Great numbers! Are the cams installed straight up or advanced? The hydroboost went out on my car, and I just got it back last week. I just installed an aluminum flywheel and picked up a set of mod camponents gears, I will hopefully be hooking up with Todd shortly to advance the cams and redyno. __________________ Custom cams spec'd by nasvt,Accufab t-body, ported short runner by nasvt,Roy's 3/4" intake spacer,JLT RAI,AFM 10" filter,PMAS 95mm Velocity Maf,Stewart water pump,Even-flow cooling mod,Steeda UD damper,Steeda wp pulley,Cobra R alt. & p/s pulleys,ARH 1.750" Lt's & off road X-pipe,Magnaflow catback,Fidanza aluminum flywheel,fidanza 2.1 clutch and lightweight billet pressure plate, FRPP aluminum d/s. 345rwhp & 340rwtq with 98 cobra cams.....numbers with new cams coming soon!

07-18-2009, 08:09 PM	#48
Nazman Nazty Performance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX. Posts: 780	Re: Intake by NA SVT Cams were not degreed. The motor on my car has a Mach 1 motor, with all and I mean all the bolt-ons and 96-98 cams. Will add a Nazty PSR and will dyno....I did degree my cams and the tune is a "little more agressive!" should out perform those! Numbers coming soon! Naz

07-18-2009, 08:11 PM	#49
PCPRO Big Daddy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lawrenceburg, Ky. Posts: 322	Re: Intake by NA SVT What were the torque numbers on his dyno? __________________ Custom cams spec'd by nasvt,Accufab t-body, ported short runner by nasvt,Roy's 3/4" intake spacer,JLT RAI,AFM 10" filter,PMAS 95mm Velocity Maf,Stewart water pump,Even-flow cooling mod,Steeda UD damper,Steeda wp pulley,Cobra R alt. & p/s pulleys,ARH 1.750" Lt's & off road X-pipe,Magnaflow catback,Fidanza aluminum flywheel,fidanza 2.1 clutch and lightweight billet pressure plate, FRPP aluminum d/s. 345rwhp & 340rwtq with 98 cobra cams.....numbers with new cams coming soon!

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