'11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

gbranton · 03-25-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rich1

Only in their dreams on a stock block !

If it dynoed at 395 rwhp stock, that's 464 hp. You mean they can't get 36 more horses out of it with the stock block?

sideways03 · 03-25-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rich1

Only in their dreams on a stock block !

No sh!t they aren't pushing 52lbs on a stock block. The point was the computer controlled camshaft timing allows for boost with a reduced chance of detonation.

Fenixfire · 03-25-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sideways04GT

Take it for what it is, a sourceless quote, but I saw this yesterday:

Holy crap! I think this motor is gonna be sick. I dont think the internals are as junky as you guys think. :P

rich1 · 03-25-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton

If it dynoed at 395 rwhp stock, that's 464 hp. You mean they can't get 36 more horses out of it with the stock block?

Those #s on the dyno are on a pre- production press car.The above post is talking about a racing engine so who knows . Lets see more results and see what WE get. I still say this motor is at or near its limit on a stock block.

I may be wrong.

Fenixfire · 03-25-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rich1

Those #s on the dyno are on a pre- production press car.The above post is talking about a racing engine so who knows . Lets see more results and see what WE get. I still say this motor is at or near its limit on a stock block.

I may be wrong.

Considering Fords new push towards world class quality you may very well be wrong.....Time will tell.

65fastback2+2 · 03-25-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sideways04GT

Take it for what it is, a sourceless quote, but I saw this yesterday:

not sourceless

George Klass is the accufab guy

heres the original post, i believe

http://www.nmradigital.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=448425

Fenixfire · 03-25-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

not sourceless

George Klass is the accufab guy

heres the original post, i believe

http://www.nmradigital.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=448425

Ya I was gonna say I heard that name before. That guy knows his crap!

rich1 · 03-25-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixfire

Ya I was gonna say I heard that name before. That guy knows his crap!

Really?

Wasnt that the guy who had alot of problems with his Throttle Bodies until people quit buying them ,then he found the problem.

rich1 · 03-25-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Yes...............John runs PRODUCTION FORD BLOCKS!

George is not a "tech guy". He does know general tech though.

Ill tell you what ..if someone gets 500 hp out of stock motor with just a re-flash, Ill get one myself and get rid of my 4.6.

shame302 · 03-25-2010, 04:41 PM

I dunno guys...IMHO, I think this engine is going to surprise and impress. Let the next 3 years do the talking.

Fenixfire · 03-25-2010, 04:44 PM

The engine bay in my mach is still empty........

Zack · 03-25-2010, 04:47 PM

Any smart owner of a new GT will convert to E85 right away and put a Centri Blower on and run 10's all day, probably at no more than 10psi.

While others are all nervous about going kaboom and building engines, that guy who didnt take the cam covers off is gonna be handing you your *** and laughing about it.

Dont all LSx series engines have Forged Powdered Metal rods?

sideways03 · 03-25-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

not sourceless

George Klass is the accufab guy

heres the original post, i believe

http://www.nmradigital.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=448425

Sweet, no longer sourceless

Linumup · 03-25-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zack

Any smart owner of a new GT will convert to E85 right away and put a Centri Blower on and run 10's all day, probably at no more than 10psi.

While others are all nervous about going kaboom and building engines, that guy who didnt take the cam covers off is gonna be handing you your *** and laughing about it.

Dont all LSx series engines have Forged Powdered Metal rods?

I honestly dont think so !

gbranton · 03-25-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Linumup

I honestly dont think so !

http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...6&chapter=6065

"The LS1 and LS6 use the same powdered-metal, cracked-cap rod, which uses a pressed-in piston pin. All of the Gen III V-8 factory rods are 6.096 inches in length and use 8-mm rod bolts.

There are a few versions of factory rod bolts that feature improvements that GM engineers have made over the years. Essentially, avoid the ’97-’98 rod bolts, but the bolts used from ’99 and beyond have been known to handle over 450 hp without issue. ARP and a few other fastener manufacturers make good replacement bolts for the stock rods and they’re good insurance — so it’s recommended that you install aftermarket rod bolts no matter what power you’re going to make."

Linumup · 03-25-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton

http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...6&chapter=6065

"The LS1 and LS6 use the same powdered-metal, cracked-cap rod, which uses a pressed-in piston pin. All of the Gen III V-8 factory rods are 6.096 inches in length and use 8-mm rod bolts.

There are a few versions of factory rod bolts that feature improvements that GM engineers have made over the years. Essentially, avoid the ’97-’98 rod bolts, but the bolts used from ’99 and beyond have been known to handle over 450 hp without issue. ARP and a few other fastener manufacturers make good replacement bolts for the stock rods and they’re good insurance — so it’s recommended that you install aftermarket rod bolts no matter what power you’re going to make."

Im talking about handing me my azz and laughing about it .

gbranton · 03-25-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Linumup

Im talking about handing me my azz and laughing about it .

True dat!

ponygt65 · 03-25-2010, 05:29 PM

Da Bulls....Da Bears...........Ditka.

I mean seriously guys....blowers are already being tested on these things. does that mean you should be able to slap on 8-10 #'s immediately...I personally wouldn't..but who knows until more mod/tuning time is thrown at them.

rich1 · 03-25-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

Da Bulls....Da Bears...........Ditka.

I mean seriously guys....blowers are already being tested on these things. does that mean you should be able to slap on 8-10 #'s immediately...I personally wouldn't..but who knows until more mod/tuning time is thrown at them.

It will be fast ..but wiil it last ? I can make most anything fast for 1/8 to 1/4 mile. However the good news is the improvements. These should help the 5.0..better cooling system , oil cooled pistons, better oil drain back , better oil pump, larger oil capacity.

Five Oh B · 03-25-2010, 06:32 PM

I think the new 5.0 could run 5-6 psi - even with the 11:1 pistons - as long as tuning is conservative. Heck, we've got plenty of guys running twice as much boost safely with 4.6L 3V's that have connecting rods the size of toothbrushes!

birdman941 · 03-25-2010, 06:46 PM

With oil squirters, you can get away with more at 11:1 CR.

shame302 · 03-25-2010, 07:24 PM

Oil spray directed to the bottom of the piston thus cooling it. Pretty simple and yet brilliant.

ModularSpeed · 03-25-2010, 08:49 PM

I can definitely tell who does their homework, and who doesnt on the intrawebs.

Anyhow, I have fiddled with these engines a little. They are quite impressive. My results/findings were not as impressive as that thread, but still nice.

Linumup · 03-25-2010, 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Mach1Marauder;1261200]Not too difficult of a task, Bill!

Yeah i know but im not worried at all about your Mach .

Unrealford · 03-25-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Explain that to the great majority of the unedumicated that's posted silliness in this thread.

Glad I havent posted in this thread till now

03-25-2010, 04:41 PM	#35
shame302 Halfbreed GT/Mach1/Cobra Join Date: May 2006 Location: I Love Your Mom, Massachusettes Posts: 1,128	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! I dunno guys...IMHO, I think this engine is going to surprise and impress. Let the next 3 years do the talking. __________________ Clicky >>>Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...

03-25-2010, 04:44 PM	#36
Fenixfire Its stock....No really! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 4,433	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! The engine bay in my mach is still empty........ __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5spd w/ IUP Mods: Lots of new stuff coming.....stay tuned

03-25-2010, 04:47 PM	#37
Zack Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John, IN Posts: 689	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! Any smart owner of a new GT will convert to E85 right away and put a Centri Blower on and run 10's all day, probably at no more than 10psi. While others are all nervous about going kaboom and building engines, that guy who didnt take the cam covers off is gonna be handing you your *** and laughing about it. Dont all LSx series engines have Forged Powdered Metal rods?

03-25-2010, 05:29 PM	#43
ponygt65 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 7,687	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! Da Bulls....Da Bears...........Ditka. I mean seriously guys....blowers are already being tested on these things. does that mean you should be able to slap on 8-10 #'s immediately...I personally wouldn't..but who knows until more mod/tuning time is thrown at them. __________________ Current Stable: NO stangs.....DON'T F'ING remind me. Previous stangs: 2003 Mineral Grey Cobra Vert 1965 Factory GT K Code Coupe - mostly original and numbers matching. 14.9 (best) GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!! 2003 MACh 1 AB - MINE!..SLP LM1s, PHP Spacer, and a CAI, that wont' stop whistling. 2004 MACh 1 DSG - PHP spacer, BOrla Stingers, K and N CAI, Tune, X-pipe, 1" 1-piece raised shaker...yadda yadda.

03-25-2010, 06:32 PM	#45
Five Oh B Two-Time Mach 1 Owner Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 1,385	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! I think the new 5.0 could run 5-6 psi - even with the 11:1 pistons - as long as tuning is conservative. Heck, we've got plenty of guys running twice as much boost safely with 4.6L 3V's that have connecting rods the size of toothbrushes! __________________ Current Mustang: 2014 GT Glass Roof Coupe - Ruby Red with 6R80 trans. Prior Mustangs: '03 Mach 1, Azure Blue 5-speed w/ IUP, '11 Brembo GT, '07 GT with Vortech S-Trim, '00 Spring Feature GT coupe, '89 LX 5.0 Sport, '88 LX, & '75 Mach 1. Prior Thunderbirds: 1993 LX Sport 5.0L, 1990 LX, 1988 Turbo Coupe.

03-25-2010, 06:46 PM	#46
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! With oil squirters, you can get away with more at 11:1 CR. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

03-25-2010, 07:24 PM	#47
shame302 Halfbreed GT/Mach1/Cobra Join Date: May 2006 Location: I Love Your Mom, Massachusettes Posts: 1,128	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! Oil spray directed to the bottom of the piston thus cooling it. Pretty simple and yet brilliant. __________________ Clicky >>>Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...

03-25-2010, 08:49 PM	#48
ModularSpeed Mach Underhood Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FL Posts: 1,677	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! I can definitely tell who does their homework, and who doesnt on the intrawebs. Anyhow, I have fiddled with these engines a little. They are quite impressive. My results/findings were not as impressive as that thread, but still nice. __________________ Stock 4.6 4V, Cobra Cammed: 11.63@117.84 - N/A T45 / 4.56 / Drag Radials - N/A 4V Video

03-25-2010, 09:01 PM	#49
Linumup Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hydes Md. Posts: 6,944	Re: '11 GT 5.0 Dyno Results are in!!! 395 RWHP! [QUOTE=Mach1Marauder;1261200]Not too difficult of a task, Bill! Yeah i know but im not worried at all about your Mach . __________________ 1331 RWHP 1296 RWTQ 28 PSI 5.3 liter 322.4 cu.in. Big Bore Stroker HP PNP Heads w/5 Angle Valve Job HP Custom Cams ATI Racing TH400 Cheetah SCS Air Assisted Shifter Strange 31 spline axles w/3:55 F1R Procharger w/Cog Set-up Magnafuel 750 -10AN Feed -8AN Return 200 Direct Wet w/MSD window switch & controller Big Stuff 3 w/Gen. 3 Pro EFI system Kooks 1.78 LTS 3" Custom Exhaust Tuning by DGR Racing DYNO KING

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