Harmonic Balancer ? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

C Vo · 01-16-2013, 04:39 PM

I have finally found the cause of my belt chirping. Wobbeling harmonic balancer.

What other parts should be replaced while doing this?

DSG2003Mach1 · 01-16-2013, 04:59 PM

the ford bolt is torque to yield, get a new bolt if the new dampner doesnt provide one. If the new bolt is TTY use the ford torque sequence, if its reusable you torque to the provided torque spec (arp and innovators west both said 90ft lbs)

C Vo · 01-16-2013, 05:15 PM

Good deal. Should I replace the pulley as well?

Zack · 01-16-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by C Vo

Good deal. Should I replace the pulley as well?

Replace only whats bad.

And FYI, Ive never replaced a Balancer bolt....ever.

To each his own.

DSG2003Mach1 · 01-16-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zack

Replace only whats bad.

And FYI, Ive never replaced a Balancer bolt....ever.

To each his own.

it may not be necessary but I would much rather deal with shelling out $12 for another TTY bolt then deal with one snapped off inside the crank.

the dampner /pulley ring assembly, the ring is attached to the center section view a piece of rubber its bonded to. If you buy a factory piece itll be two pieces again, aftermarket units are one piece. Just be aware that the grooved pulley ring CAN and WILL remove itself from the vehicle as myself and few others can attest to

na svt · 01-17-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by C Vo

Good deal. Should I replace the pulley as well?

The Damper (balancer/pulley) is wobbling because it's seperating. Replace the damper, the bolt can be reused and tq it to 95ft lbs. I can send you a damper if you pay the shipping.

C Vo · 01-24-2013, 09:57 AM

After digging up some reviews on here. It seems that the Fluidampr is the way to go. Weighs less and appears to be just a better made piece than stock. Looking online I cant seem to find which one I need. I choose my car, size of motor, year model etc.... That narrows it down to two choices but they are both 6 rib. Im running an 8 rib belt. Am I missing something?

na svt · 01-24-2013, 10:19 AM

The March Fluid Damper is not made for an 8 rib belt. The company "FluidDampr" also does not make an 8 rib damper.

I take it that the reason you have an 8 rib damper is because you have a supercharger. If so, your only options would be an 8 rib 5.4 damper or aftermarket units such as those made by ATI or Innovators West.

C Vo · 01-24-2013, 06:05 PM

Yeah thats the reason. I will look into those. Thanks for the info!

UmachnMe? · 01-25-2013, 08:05 AM

gonna throw my .02 in for ya.
I would listen to the idler pulley and the tensioner pulley while the car is running and swap those while you have the belt loose if they are making noise.
they are $12 to $15 and were worth replacing while I had mine off.
Much quieter now.

C Vo · 03-01-2013, 09:29 PM

I went with an Innovators West setup. I was kinda shocked at the price of this thing but it will be nice to have it fixed. The more I look into it, the more I'm scared to tackle this job myself. I don't have a lot of mechanical experience. What experiences have you guys had changing this thing out?

C Vo · 03-15-2013, 10:09 PM

Finally got it on this week. What an awesome feeling. No annoying squeaks and the engine is much smoother with the new damper.

Stopsign32v · 03-16-2013, 10:00 PM

Hmmmm looking at that, could that be an underdrive pulley that is safe??? Balancer and pulley are separate

DSG2003Mach1 · 03-16-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Hmmmm looking at that, could that be an underdrive pulley that is safe??? Balancer and pulley are separate

pretty sure thats a 2 belt pulley....the balancer itself is setup for the accessory drive belt and then he bolts on the quick swap ring for the blower belt

OWmach1 · 03-17-2013, 05:31 PM

did you install it yourself or had someone else do it?

01-16-2013, 04:39 PM	#1
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Harmonic Balancer ? I have finally found the cause of my belt chirping. Wobbeling harmonic balancer. What other parts should be replaced while doing this?

01-16-2013, 04:59 PM	#2
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? the ford bolt is torque to yield, get a new bolt if the new dampner doesnt provide one. If the new bolt is TTY use the ford torque sequence, if its reusable you torque to the provided torque spec (arp and innovators west both said 90ft lbs) __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

01-16-2013, 05:15 PM	#3
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? Good deal. Should I replace the pulley as well?

01-24-2013, 09:57 AM	#7
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? After digging up some reviews on here. It seems that the Fluidampr is the way to go. Weighs less and appears to be just a better made piece than stock. Looking online I cant seem to find which one I need. I choose my car, size of motor, year model etc.... That narrows it down to two choices but they are both 6 rib. Im running an 8 rib belt. Am I missing something?

01-24-2013, 10:19 AM	#8
na svt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beavercreek, oh Posts: 4,695	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? The March Fluid Damper is not made for an 8 rib belt. The company "FluidDampr" also does not make an 8 rib damper. I take it that the reason you have an 8 rib damper is because you have a supercharger. If so, your only options would be an 8 rib 5.4 damper or aftermarket units such as those made by ATI or Innovators West. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/groups/481330828691064/

01-24-2013, 06:05 PM	#9
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? Yeah thats the reason. I will look into those. Thanks for the info!

01-25-2013, 08:05 AM	#10
UmachnMe? never ending project Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 605	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? gonna throw my .02 in for ya. I would listen to the idler pulley and the tensioner pulley while the car is running and swap those while you have the belt loose if they are making noise. they are $12 to $15 and were worth replacing while I had mine off. Much quieter now. __________________ tuned by ProDyno in Fort Mill 540 hp (5200 rpm) 490 tq I/W 15% OD pulley Vortech V2SQ forged S/B by VT performance Cobra tank with twin GT pumps BBK Long Tubes, custom O/R X w/ magnaflow mufflers 18"x9" AFS Mach 1 wheels Dimpled and slotted rotors MM front coil over kit with Bilstein HD struts MM adjustable LCAs and adjustable pan hard bar MM hd torque arm /removed factory upper arms Rebuilt 3650 / new syncros and shifter forks / Hurst BP RAM HD 950 dual disk clutch and FRP alum d/s

03-01-2013, 09:29 PM	#11
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? I went with an Innovators West setup. I was kinda shocked at the price of this thing but it will be nice to have it fixed. The more I look into it, the more I'm scared to tackle this job myself. I don't have a lot of mechanical experience. What experiences have you guys had changing this thing out?

03-15-2013, 10:09 PM	#12
C Vo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 501	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? Finally got it on this week. What an awesome feeling. No annoying squeaks and the engine is much smoother with the new damper.

03-16-2013, 10:00 PM	#13
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? Hmmmm looking at that, could that be an underdrive pulley that is safe??? Balancer and pulley are separate __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-17-2013, 05:31 PM	#15
OWmach1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: CA Posts: 452	Re: Harmonic Balancer ? did you install it yourself or had someone else do it?

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