coilovers

[OWmach1]

What are good brand coilovers and shocks to use on a mach1? I'm unsure on the spring rates since it's a weekend warrior, buts recommended?

[iudelt89]

Pretty sure most people are going to reccommend Maximum Motorsports.

[04Mach1Blurr]

I and others who run Maximum Motorsports C/Os run 350lb hypercoil springs on bilstein struts with MM Caster Camber plates as a nice first step for coilovers

[vertigyn]

Mm or bc coil overs

[jborden3]

Are you running coilovers in the back too? What speing rates do you have in the back?

Thanks

[na svt]

Spring rates will vary greatly with the type of driving you do. What do you do with the car?

[jborden3]

Looking to do track days - maybe 4 to 5 per year and DD a couple times a week.

[na svt]

Originally Posted by jborden3

Looking to do track days - maybe 4 to 5 per year and DD a couple times a week.

Track days, open or drag?

[jborden3]

Road course. I live in South Jersey about an hour from NJ Motorsports Park. There aer two tracks there, Thunderbolt and Lightning

[vertigyn]

I have coil overs in front and rear but I also have an IRS in the rear...so my rear rates wont help you ;-)

I would suggest the MM Sport series if you don't mind the slightly stiffer ride for those days you do DD the car. That's what I run and they don't bother me.

[jborden3]

Thanks,
I am figuring on doing the MM coilovers all around, panhard bar and cc plates as a start. Also putting in strurt and tower braces. What shocks are you running?

[04Mach1Blurr]

the higher the spring rate, the stiffer the ride, the more handling your going to get. I have 350 spring rate up front on my bilstien struts and MM C/Os and they are about as hard as I would keep if you still want to daily your Mach. If your taking it out every now and then, or to the track, I'd put a 400+ spring rate in. I prefer the bilstein struts and shocks. Make sure you get Caster Camber plates to improve the caster and adjust your camber and toe-in.

Needless to say, but get some goooood tires if you really want the best bang for the buck and keep them the same all they way around. 255s all the way around or 275s on a 17x9 wheel.

[vertigyn]

I have the full MM Sport Series kit - it uses their own Sport Series strut which I think is a modified Bilstein. It can handle stiffer spring rates. I have 450 up front.

If you look on their website, it states which shocks/struts can handle which spring rates. My spring is 50ibs over their recommended rate but they said it was fine.

[jborden3]

I hear you about tires. I have a set of Toyo R888s for my Miata. I will probably go with them or RA1's, if that is there model.
I got the car in October and took it to the track to see how it handled. The understeer was unbearable!!!. The car has street tires up front and Nitto drag radials in the back. What a combination. I lived to tell about it.
I will be talking to MM shortly and ordering the parts.

Did you guys do the coilover install yourselves?
Thanks

[vertigyn]

I didn't. If your card doesn't already have CC plates, you will need those from MM as well. Since they add a 4th hole, you need a special drill bit to get through the strut tower - I watched my shop go through 2 drill bits trying to do the job - glad they were the ones doing it and not me!

If you already have CC plates, then the actual coilovers should be pretty easy to install - nothing too intense to the process as I had to remove one of my rear ones an rebuild it.

One thing to warn you about - the top of the struts will come through the top of the strut tower quite a bit and will look odd at first...but it's normal. Just something that surprised me the first time I saw it.

[TRmachwon]

The CC plate directions tell you what kind of drill bit you need. I forget what material it is off the top of my head but it's nothing fancy and you can pick one up at home depot. I drilled through my strut towers like butter. Coilover installation is cake. Front coilovers and an aggressive amount of negative camber and more caster will do wonders for the understeer issue.

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

the higher the spring rate... the more handling your going to get.

Not at all how it works.1

[YellowMACH04]

[QUOTE=TRmachwon;1529432]The CC plate directions tell you what kind of drill bit you need. I forget what material it is off the top of my head but it's nothing fancy and you can pick one up at home depot. I drilled through my strut towers like butter. Coilover installation is cake. Front coilovers and an aggressive amount of negative camber and more caster will do wonders for the understeer issue.



I'm looking to do a coilover setup similar to the OP's. What kind of advantage do the off-set front control arms offer? I looks like it increases caster but is it too much for a DD?

[iudelt89]

Originally Posted by jborden3

Thanks,
I am figuring on doing the MM coilovers all around, panhard bar and cc plates as a start. Also putting in strurt and tower braces. What shocks are you running?

I'm setting mine up for road course and weekend driving as well. I will be hitting up the autobahn country club course, road america, and possible gingerman or blackhawk farms raceway as well this upcoming summer. Currently running MM pan hard bar, kb extreme subframe matrix, MM bumpsteer, MM CC plates (running -1.3), H&R supersport springs, and Bilstein HD's. I havn't gone coil overs yet, but had the rear Bilstein's grooved so I could make the transition down the line if I so choose. Here is a link to a thread from a while back that helped me out getting started.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...highlight=HPDE

[not a gt]

After reading every post, still didn't see any recommendation for rear coil over spring rate. I have a 10-150, but not sure if this is good with stock front components, was hoping I could get my answer piggybacking off original post question. Car is driven maybe twice a month with some 1/4 mile trips when inclined.

[medrick]

Originally Posted by not a gt

After reading every post, still didn't see any recommendation for rear coil over spring rate. I have a 10-150, but not sure if this is good with stock front components, was hoping I could get my answer piggybacking off original post question. Car is driven maybe twice a month with some 1/4 mile trips when inclined.

maximum recommends 225-300 for the rears with their sport series shocks. id prob go with domething like that. i run a 400lb front and 500lb rear but i also have an irs so that changes it a lot.

[not a gt]

That spring rate for the stock location? I have the coilover setup with coil over the shock, not sure they have a rate that high a number do they?

[medrick]

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...514_22_109_211

[not a gt]

Wow, what a selection. How do I know what to go with? No wonder the car wants to bottom out, I bought UPR, man, have to figure out what to go to for what I am doing with the car. Thanks!!!!

[not a gt]

http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/info/coilovers.htm
Found this, interesting read, what do you think? Answer's alot in terms for my 10-150 spring questions. Hope it is helpful.

[not a gt]

I e-mailed Strange and they replied back that on install you should only need to compress the spring 1 to 2 inches to acheive stock ride height ( which I think according to another post is 26.5" ???). If you have to go more than that, spring is too light. Also said to get a truly accurate spring rate, they need to know the rear end weight of the Mach. Going out on a limb, does anyone know what that is? Not sure if I can just take the weight bias % of the rear vs. front from the overall weight of the car. Is that right?