eaton swap question?

[Braceyaself]

I can get a buddy of mine with a 03 cobra to swap everything i need, timing chain cover blower, exchanger injectors rails ect for 1000 bucks plus my stock intake manifold. I was woundering if it was worth doing? what needs to be done? i can handel the swap part im just curious on the wiring of this all and what has to be changed to work. iv searched but no threads really go into detail just looking for some insite and what i should do if its even worth doing

[Awd This]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Are you sure that you have EVERYTHING?

Yeah its worth it if you have every thing, But as m1m said thers so much stuff and be sure you have it all.

[Braceyaself]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Are you sure that you have EVERYTHING?

i can get a list, what we are prolly going to do is park both cars into my house, then swap take everything from his car put it on my car swap everything off my car to his ect i was just reading about eletical connections changes and sesnors. I really want to know what has to be changed but there really isnt alot of threads that go into detail

[Braceyaself]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

I know where he can get the FULL set up with an 04 Cobra engine with a whipple on top!

IF i had the money id be all over it

[Turbostang]

I hope this helps,or if you can wait about two weeks i'm starting my swap.I think I have 90% of the stuff.It's been done a number of times so it can be done.Plus they are all ford parts nothing is one off.Good luck and remember any info you find you have to share.
http://www.extremehp.com/modules.php...ewtopic&t=1390

[Hmbre97]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

I don't see that happening...............way too complicated.
You'll prolly see that when you get them side by side.

Not really.... The only thing I could forsee holding it up is the wiring mods but if you can solder, that's 30 minutes of work tops.

I am still working on my writeup but here are some notes on the wiring and what needs to be changed.

1. IAC connector needs to be extended 6 inches

2. Wiring for DPFE needs to be extended from drivers side to pass side (if you keep EGR; I didn't)

3. IAT needs to be tied into the Cobra TMAP sensor. The IAT sensor on a Mach 1 is integrated into the MAF. A cobra has two IAT sensors; one in the intake tube and one on the blower to measure post blower temps. Since IAT2 is the most important, you need to tie your IAT wires into the IAT2 wires on the TMAP. I have the diagrams for these at home and will post them when I get access to them. It will make sense once I post it.

4. Intercooler pump wiring can be done a few ways. To save time, I would just tie it into the fog light harness right there in the wheel well which will let you drive it home. Once you get it home, you can wire it up permanantly.

5. The alt pigtails need to be swapped over. When adding the Cobra pigtail, you need to extend it about another 6-10 inches.

The only other item you need to "mod" on your car is grinding down the knock sensor bosses. That's 5 minutes tops. Everyhting else is a direct swap over.

[try846]

This swap is not as easy as it sounds simply due to the amount of parts needed. I guess that avg. backyard mechanic is not going to figure out this install with all the details. Someone who has done it and records what needs to be done could help out. There are only a handfull of people who have actually done the swap, there is a reason for it. It is time consuming and it is not that simple. I am about halfway through my kB install and I cannot see the avg. backyard mechanic doing this install either. I went through the parts list and all the details from reading the posts here on people who have done the swap, I think it looks awesome when done, but I cannot see spending the amount of time finding parts. By the way the kb looks pretty sweet sitting on top of there now.

[Hmbre97]

Originally Posted by try846

This swap is not as easy as it sounds simply due to the amount of parts needed. I guess that avg. backyard mechanic is not going to figure out this install with all the details. Someone who has done it and records what needs to be done could help out. There are only a handfull of people who have actually done the swap, there is a reason for it. It is time consuming and it is not that simple. I am about halfway through my kB install and I cannot see the avg. backyard mechanic doing this install either. I went through the parts list and all the details from reading the posts here on people who have done the swap, I think it looks awesome when done, but I cannot see spending the amount of time finding parts. By the way the kb looks pretty sweet sitting on top of there now.

Coming from someone who has done the swap, I disagree. I had zero issues through my install other than collecting parts but if he has a Cobra sitting next to it to swap everything over, he shouldn't have any problems other than what I mentioned in my post above.

I dunno why people are so scared of this swap. 95% of the swap is unbolting a part, and replacing it with a Cobra specific part. Any monkey that knows how to operate a rachet should be able to do it...

[98(obra]

I told him to go for the gold for the swap

[Braceyaself]

Originally Posted by Hmbre97

Not really.... The only thing I could forsee holding it up is the wiring mods but if you can solder, that's 30 minutes of work tops.

I am still working on my writeup but here are some notes on the wiring and what needs to be changed.

1. IAC connector needs to be extended 6 inches

2. Wiring for DPFE needs to be extended from drivers side to pass side (if you keep EGR; I didn't)

3. IAT needs to be tied into the Cobra TMAP sensor. The IAT sensor on a Mach 1 is integrated into the MAF. A cobra has two IAT sensors; one in the intake tube and one on the blower to measure post blower temps. Since IAT2 is the most important, you need to tie your IAT wires into the IAT2 wires on the TMAP. I have the diagrams for these at home and will post them when I get access to them. It will make sense once I post it.

4. Intercooler pump wiring can be done a few ways. To save time, I would just tie it into the fog light harness right there in the wheel well which will let you drive it home. Once you get it home, you can wire it up permanantly.

5. The alt pigtails need to be swapped over. When adding the Cobra pigtail, you need to extend it about another 6-10 inches.

The only other item you need to "mod" on your car is grinding down the knock sensor bosses. That's 5 minutes tops. Everyhting else is a direct swap over.

If i grind down these knock sensor bosses will this disable the knock sensor? Im sure i can handel the wiring i have bunch of buddys great at it and im not to shabby. but like i said i will have the car next to mine and we will be swaping parts

[Hmbre97]

They will need to be turned off in the tune

[Braceyaself]

yeah that kinda worrys me lol i dont know if would do it just for that reason alone, i like haven something watchin over the car just incase

[J1MJ1M]

they dont need to be turned off just the "sensitivity tweaked" The KB kit relocates them to longer bolts on a spacer on the base plate for the blower. Im sure a good tuner could tweak em. As far as doing the swap from one car to another I think you could figure it out...goodluck!

[Braceyaself]

Originally Posted by J1MJ1M

they dont need to be turned off just the "sensitivity tweaked" The KB kit relocates them to longer bolts on a spacer on the base plate for the blower. Im sure a good tuner could tweak em. As far as doing the swap from one car to another I think you could figure it out...goodluck!

care to share more? youy helping me out big time i wonder if i can make this work some how

[J1MJ1M]

here's the knock sensors higlighted in red. Straight from the Kenne Bell instructions, extend the drivers side knock sensor 28 inches. When you get to this point and make sure ya take your time soldering, heat shrink, and loom and tape everything electrical for both safety and looks! The sensors are on about 1 inch spacers, you will see how tall they need to be to fit in the lower intake. You will need 2 longer bolts in the middle between the injectors to bolt them down. Becareful not to overtighten them and do this in a crossover pattern just like tightening lug nuts, starting from the middle to the outsides then back to the middle. You could snap a head off which I ended up doing and had to take the whole blower and lower intake back out! I got lucky and it broke off high enough so that I could turn it with vice grips...Atleast with knock sensors your computer may be able to detect detenation and pull timing to save your motor as opposed to them being tunred off!

[98(obra]

hmmmmm dolphin sammiches