Oh fer cryin' out loud...

[JDraper]

Someone needs to b**ch slap the lawyer and the father.......He was TWO times the legal limit fer cryin' out loud!!!

Oh no!..my son COULDN'T be at fault....

[birdman941]

Freaking stupid.
He was drunk driving and he died.
Should be the end of the story.
Lawyer who FILED the suit should be disbarred and imprisoned.

[machgsxr]

Authorities said the 29-year pitcher had a blood content of nearly twice the legal limit for alcohol in his system when he crashed into the back of the tow truck. He was also speeding, using a cell phone and wasn't wearing a seat belt, Police Chief Joe Mokwa said after the accident. Marijuana also was found in the SUV.


F-that. His father and the lawyer need to go climb up another tree. THat shiat is just not right. If they win this case it shows how screwed up our people and courts have become. That is just plain nonsense.

[65fastback2+2]

sadly...they'll most likely win against the bar....though they wont have a case against the tow truck and stalled car.

[StangIT]

Originally Posted by machgsxr

Authorities said the 29-year pitcher had a blood content of nearly twice the legal limit for alcohol in his system when he crashed into the back of the tow truck. He was also speeding, using a cell phone and wasn't wearing a seat belt, Police Chief Joe Mokwa said after the accident. Marijuana also was found in the SUV.

CASE CLOSED!

[71mach103]

How typical of society nowadays. Don't admit guilt, don't even THINK that you might, just MIGHT be wrong. Spend all your time pointing the finger at someone else, trying to blame someone else for YOUR mistake. It's sad that the guy died, no doubt. But to blame everyone else is nothing short of pathetic. He made a mistake...several by the sounds of it. Happens to everyone. Unfortunately it cost him his life, but how his father and that lawyer can even conceive of this is mind numbing.

[Awd This]

Wow thats amazing. Why don't they sue all the company's that make alcoholic beverages and the government for making it available why they are at it.

[Firebreed05]

Originally Posted by Awd This

Wow thats amazing. Why don't they sue all the company's that make alcoholic beverages and the government for making it available why they are at it.

......and the SUV maker for not providing enough safety features for his son to survive the high speed collision, and the state for not making the roads wide enough for him to have room to go around the tow truck, and the gas station for providing his son with fuel, and the residents of the area for being in the vicinity of the crash................

I hope the judge throws both the dad and his lawyer out on their heads. This rates up there in the top 10 most stupid law suits I've ever heard of. I mean, come on........the driver of the stalled car is at fault for his son being stupid, overly intoxicated, and devoid of common sense??? If lawyers have their way, pretty soon no one will be responsible for anything that they do.

[Aerowrench]

Money and fame have no bearing on the difficulty of removing yourself from the Gene pool.
Not a Darwin Award candidate, but definately an Honorable mention...

Now if I was the Tow truck owner, I'd be suing for a shiny new F450 Powerstroke!

[bris09]

If what was said about the Resturaunt is true than they are liable by law. The towtruck driver and driver of the stalled car no way. If I remember correctly the truck had it's lights on and he changed lanes then struck the truck.

[RightTime]

Daddy has to replace that meal ticket somehow!

[Fastbandit99]

As for the lawyer I have a few fire ant beds that I would like to strap his @#$ on. I failed to buy any over and out this year and man those things have made a comeback.

[ShebMach1]

The only way I would give sympathy is if another party was involved, and it would not be for the driver.

[Bigal1067]

Originally Posted by bris09

If what was said about the Resturaunt is true than they are liable by law. The towtruck driver and driver of the stalled car no way. If I remember correctly the truck had it's lights on and he changed lanes then struck the truck.

Just curious why the bar/restaurant woud be liable by law? I mean he's over 18yrs old, an adult, paying for his own drinks. Why would the restaurant be at fault because some guy, whoever he might be, ordered to many drinks?
I'm not saying your wrong, I just want to know what the law says and why it would fault the restaurant.

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by Bigal1067

Just curious why the bar/restaurant woud be liable by law? I mean he's over 18yrs old, an adult, paying for his own drinks. Why would the restaurant be at fault because some guy, whoever he might be, ordered to many drinks?
I'm not saying your wrong, I just want to know what the law says and why it would fault the restaurant.

They have a duty to refuse to serve intoxicated persons.

[03mach69mach]

When you get your car insurance premium or business general liability insurance premium and want to know why it is so freakin' high, this is why. The insurance companies for all those named in the suit now have to hire defense counsel to answer the complaint & defend the insured's (tow co., restaurant etc). And I am sure that defense counsel is not pullin down the minimum wage

This is an example of why states need to pass laws where loosers pay for frivilous lawsuits. You can sue, but if you loose, you foot the entire defense bill for the people you sue. It might (key word) might stop some of this stuff.

The father needs to go home and greive for his lost son & pray for those businesses & other people his son drew into this situation by being reckless, thoughtless & stupid in his actions. I will get off the soap box now.

[71mach103]

Originally Posted by RightTime

Daddy has to replace that meal ticket somehow!

:THUMBSUP: hit the nail on the head right there

[01TruBluGT]

Well I hate to play devil's advocate here but there are a few things to consider.

As for the tow truck driver and the driver of the stalled car, I feel sorry for them but again we don't know all of the facts as to where they were on the road, how they made it clear they were on the road ect. Just for example lets say they were right around a curve did not put out flares and were taking up a majority of the road. Take the drunk driving out of the picture and if anyone else would have been killed by not being able to see them soon enough to stop, then not one person in the world would have a problem with the family suing them. I have seen my fare share of people with broken down cars just sitting on the highway middle of the night and not having the foresite to turn on their hazzards and make it plain as day they were there. I have also seen careless tow drivers hog up enitre lanes of traffic and still let half of their truck go into the lane of oncomming traffic for no other reason than them being too lazy to want to push the car a bit into a safer position.

As for the bar owners, yes by law they are responsible. They had a duty to refuse to serve him drinks if he appeared intoxicated. Yes I know he was a grown man and it is his responsibility to know when to say when but none the less. To look at it another way, lets say your 17 year old kid goes over to a friends house and the friends great parents provide alcohol for your kid. On the way home your kid dies in a car wreck would you not be blaming the parents that gave them the alcohol?

[Uloset]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

They have a duty to refuse to serve intoxicated persons.

Yea and it is the worst law ever I hate having to deal with it every time I work at the bar. To drink you have to be 21 which makes you old enough to vote, join the military, handle deadly weapons, be on a jury and even run for certain political offices. But when the same person goes out drinking the bartender's have to baby-sit them or their *** gets nail because some idiot doesn't know when to stop. Plus this is very hard to control at crowded events. The business I work at also caters weddings and believe me it is hard to stop someone from drinking when his or her friends can just come up and get another round for em.

[2k4mk1]

Originally Posted by Uloset

Yea and it is the worst law ever I hate having to deal with it every time I work at the bar.

Same thing applies if you host a party at your house and I attend and get all shitty and leave get in a wreck and take someone out. guess who would be named in the lawsuit. You the party host. Our society has become faultless. as in it wasnt my fault so n so made me do it.

I agree case should be tossed out but most likely he will get a butt load o cash and the real responsible party is already in the ground

[Bigal1067]

Originally Posted by 01TruBluGT

Well I hate to play devil's advocate here but there are a few things to consider.

As for the tow truck driver and the driver of the stalled car, I feel sorry for them but again we don't know all of the facts as to where they were on the road, how they made it clear they were on the road ect. Just for example lets say they were right around a curve did not put out flares and were taking up a majority of the road. Take the drunk driving out of the picture and if anyone else would have been killed by not being able to see them soon enough to stop, then not one person in the world would have a problem with the family suing them. I have seen my fare share of people with broken down cars just sitting on the highway middle of the night and not having the foresite to turn on their hazzards and make it plain as day they were there. I have also seen careless tow drivers hog up enitre lanes of traffic and still let half of their truck go into the lane of oncomming traffic for no other reason than them being too lazy to want to push the car a bit into a safer position.

As for the bar owners, yes by law they are responsible. They had a duty to refuse to serve him drinks if he appeared intoxicated. Yes I know he was a grown man and it is his responsibility to know when to say when but none the less. To look at it another way, lets say your 17 year old kid goes over to a friends house and the friends great parents provide alcohol for your kid. On the way home your kid dies in a car wreck would you not be blaming the parents that gave them the alcohol?

I'm sorry but you cannot compare an adult giving a 17yr old alcohol with a grown man, a professional athlete going to a bar and paying for a bunch of drinks. no where does it mention that he looked intoxicated or was soooooo out of control he was TRASHED and could hardly walk. i was young once and stupidly have driven intoxicated... with noone even noticing i was to drunk to drive. i wouldnt, couldn't and would not be happy whether i'm up there or down there if my father did what this man is doing. he's trying to ruin another person's, maybe several peoples lives just for vengeance for this accident. preventable yes, but an accident... if he was intoxicated or not, it was a terrible accident.

[matab14]

Originally Posted by Bigal1067

I'm sorry but you cannot compare an adult giving a 17yr old alcohol with a grown man, a professional athlete going to a bar and paying for a bunch of drinks. no where does it mention that he looked intoxicated or was soooooo out of control he was TRASHED and could hardly walk. i was young once and stupidly have driven intoxicated... with noone even noticing i was to drunk to drive. i wouldnt, couldn't and would not be happy whether i'm up there or down there if my father did what this man is doing. he's trying to ruin another person's, maybe several peoples lives just for vengeance for this accident. preventable yes, but an accident... if he was intoxicated or not, it was a terrible accident.

+++ AGREE!!! Im so tired of people in today's society over analyzing and tryin to find every possible measure to blame some one else for their mistakes. They are alot of good points provided in previous post and I really feel that this lawsuit is complete BS......It just hard to feel sorry for some one who was intoxicated and driving.

[Aerowrench]

(moral) Duty and Law are two entirely different things. That Restaurant isn't responsible for that loser's character flaws. Nobody forced him to drink, nobody forced him to drive. HE is responsible for his own actions.

[bris09]

Originally Posted by Aerowrench

(moral) Duty and Law are two entirely different things. That Restaurant isn't responsible for that loser's character flaws. Nobody forced him to drink, nobody forced him to drive. HE is responsible for his own actions.

I agree completely. Unfortunately the laws aren't written that way. I think its time to stop blaming judges and lawyers for these cases and go after the real problem. The laws and the people who write them. We blame lawyers for finding the loopholes, judges for having to rule by them but not the politician who put it there.