Newb, thinking of a mach

[rajiv1998]

Hey guys, im new to the forums (this is my first post) and I had a few questions. I am considering purchasing a mach1 in the spring/summer of this year. Iv done some research but i still had a few doubts. My plan for the car is simple, I want around 500 to the wheels and I know with FI its def possible....

1) I know 8psi on a procharger is the avg of what ppl run, and iv seen dynos of up to 480 with 8psi, but what will happen if i change the pulley and crank it up to 10. Will this be overkill on the stock block??

2) If my track elevation is at 0ft, what kinda times can i pull? (Im a decent driver, not the best but I can drive stick. Prior to this i owned an LS1 and did racing with that as well) Iv seen many procharged machs go deep into the 11's and high 10's.

3) Any weak points on these cars? Especially with FI??

4) Will I be happy with a DSC-1 Mach?? I originally wanted a termi but its to **** expensive.

Any feedback or comments are more than welcome. I want to learn as much as possible before i make my decision.

[ZincShaker]

The popular "safe" zone on the rods and pistons is 450rwhp. The 5 spds have a forged crank. The autos do not. Of course as they say if you want to do it right, forge the bottom end.

[ASH302]

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Hey guys, im new to the forums (this is my first post) and I had a few questions. I am considering purchasing a mach1 in the spring/summer of this year. Iv done some research but i still had a few doubts. My plan for the car is simple, I want around 500 to the wheels and I know with FI its def possible....500 rwhp is alittle to much for stock bottom end, more around 450rwhp is what you want

1) I know 8psi on a procharger is the avg of what ppl run, and iv seen dynos of up to 480 with 8psi, but what will happen if i change the pulley and crank it up to 10. Will this be overkill on the stock block?? you can run 10psi, depends on your tuner and how he tunes the car, even mach's will be diff even at the same psi

2) If my track elevation is at 0ft, what kinda times can i pull? (Im a decent driver, not the best but I can drive stick. Prior to this i owned an LS1 and did racing with that as well) Iv seen many procharged machs go deep into the 11's and high 10's. 450rwhp will get you in the 11's there will be a few little things you need but that power can get you there with no prob

3) Any weak points on these cars? Especially with FI?? bottom end isn't forged, the manual's have a forged crank, overall the mach is a great car, very strong. For FI the Compression ratio is high,

4) Will I be happy with a DSC-1 Mach?? I originally wanted a termi but its to **** expensive.i asure you with a D1sc mach 1 you will be more than happy and beatin the termi azz

Any feedback or comments are more than welcome. I want to learn as much as possible before i make my decision.

hope this helps you out.

[rajiv1998]

Originally Posted by 460hpmach1

hope this helps you out.

Just curious to where in the 11 second range i will fall. Also, if i decided to run slicks, will the rear hold up if its stock? Or do i have to change the axles or anything (dont really wanna shell out 2 grand on a rear immediatley) Any1 have any proof or stories of a DSC-1 beating a pulley cobra?

[ZincShaker]

Stock axles are only 28 spline. Most people up grade to a 31 slime setup. Miser does make after markets 28's. Drag radials or slicks on the stock rear is a gamble. Might not make one pass while others have made many. How lucky do you feel.

[ASH302]

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Just curious to where in the 11 second range i will fall. Also, if i decided to run slicks, will the rear hold up if its stock? Or do i have to change the axles or anything (dont really wanna shell out 2 grand on a rear immediatley) Any1 have any proof or stories of a DSC-1 beating a pulley cobra?

don't have yet of the D1sc, but do of nitrous, and the nitrous is less hp.

if you want proof i got it for you. lol my buddies 03 cobra 451rwhp with me just using nitrous beat him with no prob and the d1sc is going to be a lot more power than what the nitrous was.

like stated, i've ran DR's and my rear end did fine not problesm, switchin to 31's would be wise, but not needed right of the bat, for me it has work, but to each there own and each car is different.

just pm if you want the video off of youtube, be glad to give it to you so you can see

[Black Widow]

Originally Posted by ZincShaker

The popular "safe" zone on the rods and pistons is 450rwhp. The 5 spds have a forged crank. The autos do not. Of course as they say if you want to do it right, forge the bottom end.

Wow I had no idea that the 5spds have forged crank and automatics didn't. I learn somethin new everyday about my Mach. Why did FORD do this to the automatic Machs?

[rajiv1998]

So whats faster a bolt on and DSC1 mach or a gt with the same mods??

[WhippedMach]

Originally Posted by Black Widow

Wow I had no idea that the 5spds have forged crank and automatics didn't. I learn somethin new everyday about my Mach. Why did FORD do this to the automatic Machs?

Quite simply just Cost, the manual spins a higher rpm from the factory, and needs a better crank, the auto, cannot spin what the manual does, mainly because the torque converter, was prone to ballooning, and overall wear on the auto at that higher rpm also, so there wasnt a need for the forged crank, with the auto being how it is.

[tvanlant]

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

So whats faster a bolt on and DSC1 mach or a gt with the same mods??

Obviously, the mach would be much faster than a GT with the sames mods. The 2 valves heads and crappy intake on the GT are going to be a huge bottle neck in making horsepower.

[Fenixfire]

Stock mach blocks can hold 500 rwhp on a procharger. Its been done and its being done. The question is for how long will it hold that power? Could be forever, could be a few weeks. The answer is how YOU drive it.

Depending on how you mod the car even 450 rwhp can put you in the 10s. Its gonna depend on your driving, traction, suspension, weight of car plus driver, track prep, density altitude and a myriad of other factors.

450-500 rwhp on a mach with stock suspension, sticky tires, a built rearend for high launches, good driving and a good track will run very low 11s.

[rajiv1998]

Im looking at one with a procharger already installed. It doesnt have to much suspension work done to it, so thats what im gonna do nxt. New springs, coils, subframes etc... I just wanna build the motor first then work on the body/chasis (i know its in reverse order) Also, any1 here ever use the Sniper software. Iv used HP Tuners in my trans am, so will this be the same more or less.

[ASH302]

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Im looking at one with a procharger already installed. It doesnt have to much suspension work done to it, so thats what im gonna do nxt. New springs, coils, subframes etc... I just wanna build the motor first then work on the body/chasis (i know its in reverse order) Also, any1 here ever use the Sniper software. Iv used HP Tuners in my trans am, so will this be the same more or less.

if you already found one with a procharger that is the extra money you won't have to pay for the s/c. so thats good. also starting on suspension isn't bad, also they is a M1R member name Roy on here that can take your stock engine of the mach and rebuild it for alittle over $3K plus shipping and get you handle up to 800hp, give him a pm and see what he has to say, he is prob going to rebuild mine for me here in a couple of years. good luck

[Beefy Nugz]

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Hey guys, im new to the forums (this is my first post) and I had a few questions. I am considering purchasing a mach1 in the spring/summer of this year. Iv done some research but i still had a few doubts. My plan for the car is simple, I want around 500 to the wheels and I know with FI its def possible....

1) I know 8psi on a procharger is the avg of what ppl run, and iv seen dynos of up to 480 with 8psi, but what will happen if i change the pulley and crank it up to 10. Will this be overkill on the stock block??

2) If my track elevation is at 0ft, what kinda times can i pull? (Im a decent driver, not the best but I can drive stick. Prior to this i owned an LS1 and did racing with that as well) Iv seen many procharged machs go deep into the 11's and high 10's.

3) Any weak points on these cars? Especially with FI??

4) Will I be happy with a DSC-1 Mach?? I originally wanted a termi but its to **** expensive.

Any feedback or comments are more than welcome. I want to learn as much as possible before i make my decision.

I've raced about 3 or 4 stage 4 port cobras that layed down well over 500/500. I'm yet to lose to one!
They're just to **** heavy.

[SparksMach1]

ask robbie on here how he runs on stock suspension (04azuremach)