Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

4V FURY · 05-21-2011, 11:27 PM

So i put an ad on craigslist offering my motorcycle up for sale for $9500 and i get this email reply:

Hello, I may be interested in your Night Rod. Would you consider $9000? Do you have the title or would we need to settle with your bank? I ask because I live in Columbus and guessing it may take a little longer to deal with your bank if you don't have title in hand. I'm going to do a loan so my bank will want some info first too, like vin number etc. Anyway let me know if $9000 works for you and we'll see if we want to move forward.
Thanks
Mike

My reply back:

Thank you for the reply. The bike is paid off with the title in hand. I would suggest that you come take a look at it and we can discuss the price at that time. I will assist in any way that your bank may need.

His second response:

The bank says they need:
VIN number
Mileage
Sellers name, address, and phone
A copy of the title (maybe you can take a picture of it and email)

They listed these things online. I'll give them a call to follow up my online application (which is approved) after I get the info from you. After I've done that we can make arrangements to see the bike. I'm thinking if we do a deal you could cash my check at a Chase bank near you and I may rent a trailer to haul the bike home to Columbus .

And mine:

Sure Mike, no problem. Send me your banks phone number and the loan officer's name and i'll provide all of the information that you listed to him/her.
Bill

And then finally on the next day (Monday):

Bill, sorry but I found another bike locally so I won't be purchasing yours. Sorry for the inconvenience and good luck to you. Take care.
Mike

Honestly i'm 50/50 on whether this was legit or not. It seemed odd to me that the guy wanted me to send him a copy of the title along with my personal information without any inquiry about the bike itself or trying to arrange a time to come and see it. It was also odd that within one day he finds another bike after my response asking about his bank info and who to speak with.

Legit or not legit? What do you guys think?

gvervoren · 05-21-2011, 11:33 PM

Seems pretty fishy to me. Especially how he backed out when you wanted to give the info directly to his bank instead of him.

donjuaniii · 05-21-2011, 11:41 PM

I've had a bank want a VIN number before but not all that other stuff...

03mach1 · 05-22-2011, 10:10 AM

Normallly, by the sounds of it, it might be legit.

Usually you can tell by the wording, that is not legit. Most of the time they start out with Consider it sold, do not sell to someone else, or they offer more than you are asking....or sending a shipper, etc...

I would probalby ask the same questions, the bank would need the info to get a loan. The banks are getting pretty specific anymore with loans....

But I would definitely let you get in touch with my bank about it, etc....if it was legit....

Good luck selling, but definitely protect yourself and always ask if unsure!!

wdwrdcrzr · 05-22-2011, 10:15 AM

Scam!

oxfordmach · 05-22-2011, 06:20 PM

ill take your bike! just go to your local walmart and ill be behind the store ,behind the dumpster,ill be wearing a black ski mask and have a 9mm
SCAM!!!

Phil · 05-22-2011, 07:11 PM

I just think he jumped the gun and got to far ahead of himself trying to make the deal happen ASAP..!!?? If your in hot pursuit to get a Night Rod, your going to be jumping on the first listing you find. But continue to look for other listings. Being that Columbus is 4 hrs away, He may have actually found one around the same asking price, but without an 8 hr round trip drive..!!?? No matter what info he was requesting, the check would have to clear your bank first before transfer of the title. You and him would have to go to your bank together to sign over the title and have it noterized.

Just my opinion Bill. But it's good to be cautious like you did.. I can understand being suspicious of this.

Azure Blurr · 05-22-2011, 08:45 PM

Legit. I sold a truck recently and the buyers bank asked for all of the same.

65fastback2+2 · 05-22-2011, 08:49 PM

sounds legit

4V FURY · 05-22-2011, 09:33 PM

See what i'm say'in, 50/50

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halemach1 · 05-22-2011, 09:53 PM

Im gona say it's legit because even if you did send him all the info he asked for, I don't see what he could do with it to rip you off.

shadowmaker · 05-22-2011, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halemach1

Im gona say it's legit because even if you did send him all the info he asked for, I don't see what he could do with it to rip you off.

When I bought my Mach, it was 2 hrs away. The credit union wanted all that information plus they called and talked to the guy.

But they wanted me to drive 2 hrs back, bring them the title and then drive 2 hrs BACK to get the car.

Luckily, I went to school with the guy at the credit union and he told me what to put on the title at the DMV. (credit union code for the lien).

So, it sounds legit to me. Now if he had wanted to send a cashiers check for more than the amount.......

wdwrdcrzr · 05-23-2011, 08:14 PM

I would at least need a deposit before giving all that info.

JimsZ · 05-23-2011, 09:03 PM

I'm kinda surprised they didn't ask for your dna and addresses of relatives the way these banks have screwed everyone over then blamed it all on us...

Of course since this was credit union explains why they went easy on ya....

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04texasmach · 05-23-2011, 09:09 PM

I bought my mach from Ohio when i lived in Texas. Now Im in Alaska. So you never know if its hard to find people will go a long ways to get it.

mellamoray · 05-24-2011, 12:08 PM

I am going with....a legit scam!

TEXASDSGMACH1 · 05-26-2011, 11:38 PM

You did the right thing, no way I would send all that info straight to a stranger. Personally I've never had a bank need a copy of the title, just the vin, mileage and maybe a picture.

shadowmaker · 05-27-2011, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXASDSGMACH1

You did the right thing, no way I would send all that info straight to a stranger. Personally I've never had a bank need a copy of the title, just the vin, mileage and maybe a picture.

I didnt have to have a copy of the title, they just wanted to know if the guy had the title. And the guy gave the info to my bank, not me.

With all the scam now a days, people have to be careful. But all the info they ask for, most of the time is public info. Heck, now they can get your credit rating with your telephone number.

shame302 · 05-27-2011, 03:52 PM

All in all it doesn't matter. You did the right thing.

03mach1 · 05-27-2011, 07:25 PM

My buddy just sold 2 vehicles on ebay, both Direct Bank Transfers (Probably safest, since the transactions cannot be reversed). One from Georgia and the from Japan. Both sent shippers to pick up the vehicles after the money was transferred and the paperwork was recieved.

He just got an email from the guy in Japan that he received his 60's GMC truck and loved it!! It took about 20 days to finally get there.

medrick · 05-27-2011, 08:07 PM

most banks/credit unions are now asking for copies of the title. I just bought mine this week and went through penfed.org (awesome rates btw) and before they would send me the check I had to get a copy from the seller and fax it to them.

4V FURY · 05-27-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4V FURY

His second response:

The bank says they need:
VIN number
Mileage
Sellers name, address, and phone
A copy of the title (maybe you can take a picture of it and email)

They listed these things online. I'll give them a call to follow up my online application (which is approved) after I get the info from you. After I've done that we can make arrangements to see the bike. I'm thinking if we do a deal you could cash my check at a Chase bank near you and I may rent a trailer to haul the bike home to Columbus .

Probably just splitting hairs here but, its the "after i get the info from you" that makes it seem scammy to me. An unsuspecting person might just send it all to him.

05-21-2011, 11:27 PM	#1
4V FURY Lite Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 1,382	Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide So i put an ad on craigslist offering my motorcycle up for sale for $9500 and i get this email reply: Hello, I may be interested in your Night Rod. Would you consider $9000? Do you have the title or would we need to settle with your bank? I ask because I live in Columbus and guessing it may take a little longer to deal with your bank if you don't have title in hand. I'm going to do a loan so my bank will want some info first too, like vin number etc. Anyway let me know if $9000 works for you and we'll see if we want to move forward. Thanks Mike My reply back: Thank you for the reply. The bike is paid off with the title in hand. I would suggest that you come take a look at it and we can discuss the price at that time. I will assist in any way that your bank may need. His second response: The bank says they need: VIN number Mileage Sellers name, address, and phone A copy of the title (maybe you can take a picture of it and email) They listed these things online. I'll give them a call to follow up my online application (which is approved) after I get the info from you. After I've done that we can make arrangements to see the bike. I'm thinking if we do a deal you could cash my check at a Chase bank near you and I may rent a trailer to haul the bike home to Columbus . And mine: Sure Mike, no problem. Send me your banks phone number and the loan officer's name and i'll provide all of the information that you listed to him/her. Bill And then finally on the next day (Monday): Bill, sorry but I found another bike locally so I won't be purchasing yours. Sorry for the inconvenience and good luck to you. Take care. Mike Honestly i'm 50/50 on whether this was legit or not. It seemed odd to me that the guy wanted me to send him a copy of the title along with my personal information without any inquiry about the bike itself or trying to arrange a time to come and see it. It was also odd that within one day he finds another bike after my response asking about his bank info and who to speak with. Legit or not legit? What do you guys think? __________________ SOLD COMPETITION ORANGE 04 MACH1 Naturally Aspirdated Boss330 heads/cams/intake + VT 324" shortblock 11.34 @ 125.62 on ET streets CRT-PERFORMANCE tuned Congrats to Redliner who has taken it to a best ET of 10.97 @ 124

05-21-2011, 11:33 PM	#2
gvervoren Garry Vervoren Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide Seems pretty fishy to me. Especially how he backed out when you wanted to give the info directly to his bank instead of him. __________________ >>>Garry Vervoren<<< 2004 Dark Shadow Grey ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! *I USED TO THINK BEING LAZY WAS BAD FOR ME SO I GAVE UP THINKING.* *HOOFBEATS ARE LOUDER THAN HEARTBEATS* 5 Speed, IUP, Tinted windows, 3rd brake light decal, Sequential Tail Lights, Smoked Tail Lights, Black Stainless Steel Bumper Inserts, Anthracite 18" staggard FR500 Build Date 10/08/2003 #567 of a build of 7182

05-21-2011, 11:41 PM	#3
donjuaniii Laid Back Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,054	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide I've had a bank want a VIN number before but not all that other stuff... __________________ "Red" hood and side stripes from Graphic Express.com

05-22-2011, 10:10 AM	#4
03mach1 Admin/Founder Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cuba, NY Posts: 6,805	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide Normallly, by the sounds of it, it might be legit. Usually you can tell by the wording, that is not legit. Most of the time they start out with Consider it sold, do not sell to someone else, or they offer more than you are asking....or sending a shipper, etc... I would probalby ask the same questions, the bank would need the info to get a loan. The banks are getting pretty specific anymore with loans.... But I would definitely let you get in touch with my bank about it, etc....if it was legit.... Good luck selling, but definitely protect yourself and always ask if unsure!! __________________ David J. Wagner Founder/Admin Member #0001 http://www.Mach1Registry.com http://www.Mach1Performance.org Amsoil T-1 Certified Independant Dealer Member, MCA '03 Mach 1, '08 V6 WIP, 76 Cobra II VIN#301788

05-22-2011, 10:15 AM	#5
wdwrdcrzr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,476	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide Scam! __________________ US-10 13.2 bone stock

05-22-2011, 06:20 PM	#6
oxfordmach Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WHO FARTED? Posts: 550	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide ill take your bike! just go to your local walmart and ill be behind the store ,behind the dumpster,ill be wearing a black ski mask and have a 9mm SCAM!!! __________________ 2011 5.0 3.73,6m,sct tune,k/n http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7915/img0794g.jpg

05-22-2011, 07:11 PM	#7
Phil Nitrous Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,299	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide I just think he jumped the gun and got to far ahead of himself trying to make the deal happen ASAP..!!?? If your in hot pursuit to get a Night Rod, your going to be jumping on the first listing you find. But continue to look for other listings. Being that Columbus is 4 hrs away, He may have actually found one around the same asking price, but without an 8 hr round trip drive..!!?? No matter what info he was requesting, the check would have to clear your bank first before transfer of the title. You and him would have to go to your bank together to sign over the title and have it noterized. Just my opinion Bill. But it's good to be cautious like you did.. I can understand being suspicious of this. __________________ Phil PRB Machining, LLC http://www.prbmachining-absdeleteman...com/index.html Performance mods by Jeff Chambers, the owner/tuner of CRT Performance in Norwalk, Ohio http://www.crt-performance.com/

05-22-2011, 08:45 PM	#8
Azure Blurr I miss my friend Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 6,020	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide Legit. I sold a truck recently and the buyers bank asked for all of the same. __________________ “Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward and freedom will be defended.” “We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail,” -George W. Bush

05-22-2011, 08:49 PM	#9
65fastback2+2 Too many cars to mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,945	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide sounds legit __________________ Current Rides: 2011 Ford Fusion 2003 MG Terminator, 2.3 whipple Previous Rides: 2003 DSG Lightning, 486/586, 12.09@111.25 2007 F150 Lariat 4wd Screw 2004 OW Mach 1, auto, 1 of 179 2003 DSG Mach 1, 574 rwhp / 528 rwtq 2003 DSG Mach 1, 13.1 @ 109.1 1988 Mustang GT, stock 1967 TB Coupe, project 1965 Fastback 2+2, A-code

05-22-2011, 09:33 PM	#10
4V FURY Lite Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 1,382	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide See what i'm say'in, 50/50 . __________________ SOLD COMPETITION ORANGE 04 MACH1 Naturally Aspirdated Boss330 heads/cams/intake + VT 324" shortblock 11.34 @ 125.62 on ET streets CRT-PERFORMANCE tuned Congrats to Redliner who has taken it to a best ET of 10.97 @ 124

05-22-2011, 09:53 PM	#11
halemach1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: fordyce, arkansas Posts: 735	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide Im gona say it's legit because even if you did send him all the info he asked for, I don't see what he could do with it to rip you off.

05-23-2011, 08:14 PM	#13
wdwrdcrzr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,476	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide I would at least need a deposit before giving all that info. __________________ US-10 13.2 bone stock

05-23-2011, 09:03 PM	#14
JimsZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hell, Indiana Posts: 584	I'm kinda surprised they didn't ask for your dna and addresses of relatives the way these banks have screwed everyone over then blamed it all on us... Of course since this was credit union explains why they went easy on ya.... Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk

05-23-2011, 09:09 PM	#15
04texasmach Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 255	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide I bought my mach from Ohio when i lived in Texas. Now Im in Alaska. So you never know if its hard to find people will go a long ways to get it. __________________ best 1/4 time: 13.4585 @ 105.19 best 1/8 time:8.7559 @ 81.88

05-24-2011, 12:08 PM	#16
mellamoray Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West New York, NJ Posts: 238	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide I am going with....a legit scam! __________________ 2003 Zinc Yellow-Magnaflow catted x-pipe, Magnaflow "magnapack" catback, Eibach Springs, 18" chrome saleen "S" style rims, cross drilled/slotted rotors, SS brake lines, Vortech Supercharger, 470 HP 2010 Ford Escape V6 XLT 4WD

05-26-2011, 11:38 PM	#17
TEXASDSGMACH1 LS WHO? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 1,075	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide You did the right thing, no way I would send all that info straight to a stranger. Personally I've never had a bank need a copy of the title, just the vin, mileage and maybe a picture. __________________ 2011 F250 69 Camaro 406 SBC 01 GT 00 GT with a 4v Sold, but still in the family 03 DSG Mach The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.

05-27-2011, 03:52 PM	#19
shame302 Halfbreed GT/Mach1/Cobra Join Date: May 2006 Location: I Love Your Mom, Massachusettes Posts: 1,128	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide All in all it doesn't matter. You did the right thing. __________________ Clicky >>>Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...

05-27-2011, 07:25 PM	#20
03mach1 Admin/Founder Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cuba, NY Posts: 6,805	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide My buddy just sold 2 vehicles on ebay, both Direct Bank Transfers (Probably safest, since the transactions cannot be reversed). One from Georgia and the from Japan. Both sent shippers to pick up the vehicles after the money was transferred and the paperwork was recieved. He just got an email from the guy in Japan that he received his 60's GMC truck and loved it!! It took about 20 days to finally get there. __________________ David J. Wagner Founder/Admin Member #0001 http://www.Mach1Registry.com http://www.Mach1Performance.org Amsoil T-1 Certified Independant Dealer Member, MCA '03 Mach 1, '08 V6 WIP, 76 Cobra II VIN#301788

05-27-2011, 08:07 PM	#21
medrick im slow Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 324	Re: Was this guy trying to scam me? You decide most banks/credit unions are now asking for copies of the title. I just bought mine this week and went through penfed.org (awesome rates btw) and before they would send me the check I had to get a copy from the seller and fax it to them.

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