Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

NoSloCoupe · 10-13-2012, 01:31 PM

Thinking of just swapping springs, more than likely going with a set of H&R. Since the car has less than 20,000 miles i don't think i want to swap out the shocks/struts. Who has done this, and how is the ride,etc?

Also, anyone put in springs without aftermarket cc plates? Is there enough adjustment with the stock setup?

drod2 · 10-13-2012, 02:07 PM

Are u going with the h&r ss???

NoSloCoupe · 10-13-2012, 02:19 PM

Yeah. I've got a complete, new in box MM starter box kit for 90-93. As soon as it sells i'm planning on the same kit for the Mach but with the SS springs.

Was just curious if just swapping in springs alone would be a good idea.

Azure03mach · 10-13-2012, 05:41 PM

Im running the stock tokico's on my mach with some maximum motorsports cc plates and eibach lowering springs and mine rides pretty smooth as for the cc plates the maximum ccs give you a ton of adjustability which is great for running lowering springs

LXS · 10-13-2012, 09:16 PM

I had Eibachs in the front (no isos) and the stock springs in the rear.....car was lowered a good 2"s or so and blew out the struts! Later on I picked up some H&R drag/race springs and a set of used Koni yellows from a buddy of mine and it was a night and day difference!! Car doesn't have that near "slammed" look anymore, but at least now I can clear majority of the parking curbs now

I say if you're gonna invest your hard earned cash into your car, do it right and do it once! Get a set of struts/shocks that are made for lowering springs, your ride will be a much more comfortable one!

ASH302 · 10-14-2012, 04:19 AM

i ran for alittle while H&R supersports with stockers and once i switched to diff ones the ride was better
i would say you can do it, but when ever its in your budget i would switch to a shocks/struts to what would work better with those springs

ASh

4a7191a · 10-14-2012, 03:11 PM

i ran around about 7k miles lowered before one of my factory tokicos failed.

jaimoe · 10-14-2012, 04:32 PM

I ran the H&R SS for about 4 months before i blew the stock shocks. The ride sucked and it sucked at the track. Went back to stock springs with kyb adjustables.

NoSloCoupe · 10-14-2012, 04:47 PM

Don't want to damage these. I'll be putting in some Bilsteins, mm cc plates along with the H&R's.

jaimoe · 10-15-2012, 12:57 PM

What is your goal with the car? Just look good and drive around and to car shows? or do you take it to the drag strip? If you drag the car at all you are really hurting yourself with the H&R SS springs. If not then the Bilsteins will work good for you.

NoSloCoupe · 10-15-2012, 01:45 PM

Just a sunny day driver, i've got other cars to beat on.

mach18604 · 10-15-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NoSloCoupe

Just a sunny day driver, i've got other cars to beat on.

same with me... Car shows and Sunday Driver

My plan was to go with Ebiahs and stock shocks ... Sounds like they blow out..

I had that on my first mach.. No issues

iudelt89 · 10-15-2012, 02:12 PM

I'm running the H&R SS springs w/ MM bumpsteer and MM cc plates and the stock shocks/struts. The stockers really don't do the best job coping with the higher spring rates. Its not awful, but its definately something I would not recommend running. If you go over any large bumps like railroad tracks even at realtively low speeds (always do) the rear tends to bottom out. I plan on going to MM Bilstein HD's in the spring.

So can you get away with it? Yes. Will it ride alright? For the most part it is ok, not the best. You will also wear out the shocks/struts very quickly. Would I recommend upgrading shocks/struts with lowering springs? Absolutely.

ASH302 · 10-16-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoSloCoupe

Don't want to damage these. I'll be putting in some Bilsteins, mm cc plates along with the H&R's.

i think your making a wise choice grasshopper

ASh

ASH302 · 10-16-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mach18604

same with me... Car shows and Sunday Driver

My plan was to go with Ebiahs and stock shocks ... Sounds like they blow out..

I had that on my first mach.. No issues

if your wanting to run Eibach pro kit the stock shocks/struts last way longer with them than H&R just from the drop. the best thing to do is find out what shock/strut will work well with the spring your running and like said above what you are wanting your car to do. everyone is diff, that is why there are so many diff set up's people have

ASh

ASH302 · 10-16-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jaimoe

What is your goal with the car? Just look good and drive around and to car shows? or do you take it to the drag strip? If you drag the car at all you are really hurting yourself with the H&R SS springs. If not then the Bilsteins will work good for you.

H&R supersports when i was running them wasn't the best at the track, more for looks, i'm curious to see how the Eibach Pro Kit i have on there now does, it feels better already just driving around. more stable IMO

ASh

MachRon · 10-26-2012, 10:45 PM

I was going to do the same, install eibach pro kit with stock struts/shocks. Anyone have any experience with the tokico hp blue struts/shocks or are they the same as the stock mach tokicos?

mr-proper · 10-26-2012, 11:19 PM

h&r SS Springs with KONI STR.T Shocks cant beat lifetime warranty!
Koni makes some of the best shocks in the WORLD!! ask m3 m5 m6 or whatever europe sport car owner

Jimyg34 · 10-29-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MachRon

I was going to do the same, install eibach pro kit with stock struts/shocks. Anyone have any experience with the tokico hp blue struts/shocks or are they the same as the stock mach tokicos?

Good question MachRon. Are our stock Tokicos similar to the new Blue Tokico struts and shocks? Anybody know?

bakerjd · 10-30-2012, 05:52 PM

I am currently ...Eibach Sportlines with no isos and Steeda HD CC plates. I certainly don't recommend it. Upgrade the shocks struts if you drive the car often. I put MAYBE 100 miles on it the past two months, lol

10-13-2012, 01:31 PM	#1
NoSloCoupe R Coded Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Clinton IL Posts: 81	Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? Thinking of just swapping springs, more than likely going with a set of H&R. Since the car has less than 20,000 miles i don't think i want to swap out the shocks/struts. Who has done this, and how is the ride,etc? Also, anyone put in springs without aftermarket cc plates? Is there enough adjustment with the stock setup? __________________ *'88 Turbo'd Notch, and '04 Competition Orange Mach 1* *American Rumble* *Its A Performer Too*

10-13-2012, 02:19 PM	#3
NoSloCoupe R Coded Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Clinton IL Posts: 81	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? Yeah. I've got a complete, new in box MM starter box kit for 90-93. As soon as it sells i'm planning on the same kit for the Mach but with the SS springs. Was just curious if just swapping in springs alone would be a good idea.

10-13-2012, 05:41 PM	#4
Azure03mach Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Lino lakes mn Posts: 90	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? Im running the stock tokico's on my mach with some maximum motorsports cc plates and eibach lowering springs and mine rides pretty smooth as for the cc plates the maximum ccs give you a ton of adjustability which is great for running lowering springs

10-13-2012, 09:16 PM	#5
LXS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,533	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? I had Eibachs in the front (no isos) and the stock springs in the rear.....car was lowered a good 2"s or so and blew out the struts! Later on I picked up some H&R drag/race springs and a set of used Koni yellows from a buddy of mine and it was a night and day difference!! Car doesn't have that near "slammed" look anymore, but at least now I can clear majority of the parking curbs now I say if you're gonna invest your hard earned cash into your car, do it right and do it once! Get a set of struts/shocks that are made for lowering springs, your ride will be a much more comfortable one! __________________ 2003 Black Mach 1 K&N RAI Magnaflow O/R X-pipe Mac catback t45 swap (BEST decision of my life!!!) Don't fear the gear! I'm not a real mechanic, I just play one online...

10-14-2012, 04:19 AM	#6
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? i ran for alittle while H&R supersports with stockers and once i switched to diff ones the ride was better i would say you can do it, but when ever its in your budget i would switch to a shocks/struts to what would work better with those springs ASh __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

10-13-2012, 02:07 PM	#2
drod2 Baaziingaaaa Join Date: May 2012 Location: houston, tx Posts: 130	Are u going with the h&r ss???

10-14-2012, 03:11 PM	#7
4a7191a Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: beaumont texas Posts: 1,344	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? i ran around about 7k miles lowered before one of my factory tokicos failed. __________________ 2004white mach1 2001 svt lightning 2011 Mitsubishi Evo X 1999 F250 7.3L

10-14-2012, 04:32 PM	#8
jaimoe Speed addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 648	I ran the H&R SS for about 4 months before i blew the stock shocks. The ride sucked and it sucked at the track. Went back to stock springs with kyb adjustables. __________________ Best time 1/8th mi--7.65@90MPH 2003 DSG Mach 1 99/01 Cobra front bumper Darrin-Matic w/3500 stall converter 100 Shot 4.10 Gears Stock Springs KYB AGX adjustable shocks/struts tubular LCAs UPR dbl adj UCAs Custom SCT Tune 255/40/18 front 295/35/18 rear FR500 Wheels Custom RAI UPR O/R X-Pipe Roy spacer Flowmaster 40's I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was." "Just an old man having fun"

10-14-2012, 04:47 PM	#9
NoSloCoupe R Coded Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Clinton IL Posts: 81	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? Don't want to damage these. I'll be putting in some Bilsteins, mm cc plates along with the H&R's. __________________ *'88 Turbo'd Notch, and '04 Competition Orange Mach 1* *American Rumble* *Its A Performer Too*

10-15-2012, 12:57 PM	#10
jaimoe Speed addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 648	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? What is your goal with the car? Just look good and drive around and to car shows? or do you take it to the drag strip? If you drag the car at all you are really hurting yourself with the H&R SS springs. If not then the Bilsteins will work good for you. __________________ Best time 1/8th mi--7.65@90MPH 2003 DSG Mach 1 99/01 Cobra front bumper Darrin-Matic w/3500 stall converter 100 Shot 4.10 Gears Stock Springs KYB AGX adjustable shocks/struts tubular LCAs UPR dbl adj UCAs Custom SCT Tune 255/40/18 front 295/35/18 rear FR500 Wheels Custom RAI UPR O/R X-Pipe Roy spacer Flowmaster 40's I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was." "Just an old man having fun"

10-15-2012, 01:45 PM	#11
NoSloCoupe R Coded Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Clinton IL Posts: 81	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? Just a sunny day driver, i've got other cars to beat on.

10-15-2012, 02:12 PM	#13
iudelt89 United We Stang Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Libertyvile, IL Posts: 985	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? I'm running the H&R SS springs w/ MM bumpsteer and MM cc plates and the stock shocks/struts. The stockers really don't do the best job coping with the higher spring rates. Its not awful, but its definately something I would not recommend running. If you go over any large bumps like railroad tracks even at realtively low speeds (always do) the rear tends to bottom out. I plan on going to MM Bilstein HD's in the spring. So can you get away with it? Yes. Will it ride alright? For the most part it is ok, not the best. You will also wear out the shocks/struts very quickly. Would I recommend upgrading shocks/struts with lowering springs? Absolutely. __________________ Black Staggered FR500's, SSS Adrenaline Cat-Back, JBA o/r h-pipe, MGW Short Throw Shifter, H&R SS Springs, Bilstein HD's, MM Bumpsteer, MM CC Plates, Kenny Brown Extreme Subframe Matrix, FRPP Alum Driveshaft, 2000 Cobra R front brake kit, MM pan hard bar, MM LCA's, K&N FIPK Intake, Bama Tune, Shaker Diverter, FRPP 3.73s, Moser 31 spline axles, FRPP diff cover, FRPP Traction-Lok diff, Kenny Brown Brake Ducts '04 Black 5-Speed Mach 1, 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee

10-26-2012, 10:45 PM	#17
MachRon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Davie, Florida Posts: 38	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? I was going to do the same, install eibach pro kit with stock struts/shocks. Anyone have any experience with the tokico hp blue struts/shocks or are they the same as the stock mach tokicos?

10-26-2012, 11:19 PM	#18
mr-proper Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: sc Posts: 135	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? h&r SS Springs with KONI STR.T Shocks cant beat lifetime warranty! Koni makes some of the best shocks in the WORLD!! ask m3 m5 m6 or whatever europe sport car owner

10-30-2012, 05:52 PM	#20
bakerjd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Alliance Posts: 94	Re: Who's using stock shocks/struts with lowering springs? I am currently ...Eibach Sportlines with no isos and Steeda HD CC plates. I certainly don't recommend it. Upgrade the shocks struts if you drive the car often. I put MAYBE 100 miles on it the past two months, lol __________________ 2006 Screaming Yellow GT - Daily Driver/First Car 2003 Dark Shadow Gray Mach 1 - Gone 2004 Oxford White GT - Gone

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