Air intake silencer - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

playtime_04 · 02-13-2005, 11:05 PM

ON this websiter there is a link on the main page that says How's To's/Mods and i was wondering if anybody has tried to remove the air intake silencer...can you feel any difference in hp or not.

Thanks for all your help :LAUGH:

surfnet · 02-13-2005, 11:51 PM

If you do a search, you'll find there's already been a lot of discussion on this. I played around with mine on and off. I couldn't really tell much difference (seat of the pants). I finally just decided to compromise, and I cut off the snorkel flush with the opening in the fender. I felt that way I was getting a bit of the best of all worlds. I got a little bigger opening for the air and it would still be pulling the cooler air from the fender well. I think it's just a matter of personal preference what you do. You might get a few extra horses if you remove it or cut the snorkel. If you do make a change, I'd recommend disconnecting the battery cables for maybe 30 minutes and then re attaching. That way the computer can re-set based on the new air flow.

MA-MACH1 · 02-13-2005, 11:56 PM

I cut mine flush with the fenderwall when I put in the K&N - no way for me to gauge the difference (if any) as the traction control kicks in too early (d**m snow tires).

playtime_04 · 02-15-2005, 09:09 PM

..thanks for you help guys

Mach&Roll · 02-16-2005, 07:31 PM

I took mine off because I read somewhere it was worth a few hp's. Not enough to notice, but you might have a good idea to cut it off at the fender well. Good idea man. I knew I was on this web site for a reason. Thanks man

MightyMach03 · 03-04-2005, 04:05 AM

I actually dyno'd the car before and after I took off the silencer and I actually gained 9rwhp and 10ft lbs of torque. So I say it is worth it.

machths · 03-04-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo'd Mach

I actually dyno'd the car before and after I took off the silencer and I actually gained 9rwhp and 10ft lbs of torque. So I say it is worth it.

9 HP! I did a before and after and gained 2.5 HP, and some website did a test too and I think they gained 3 HP.

Mach&Roll · 03-04-2005, 02:58 PM

Any horsepower that is free is good in my book. Even if it is only a few ponies.

machths · 03-04-2005, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach&Roll

Any horsepower that is free is good in my book. Even if it is only a few ponies.

Oh, I agree, but 9 HP just seems really high for what he did.

BoulderMach · 03-04-2005, 05:44 PM

You might find the article below on the Mach 1 Review web site of interest.

Mach 1 Review of snorkel/MAF removal

MightyMach03 · 03-05-2005, 07:16 PM

I need not to ******** any one, I was on motor and had a couple bolt-ons, like headers, x-pipe, pulleys, throttlebody, kn filter, stall, etc. I dyno'd at 270 and the shop and a friend there with me gave me advice on taking the silencer off. By doing so I went up to 279rwhp....take it for what it is. Thanks
Martin

MightyMach03 · 03-05-2005, 07:32 PM

BTW, all motors respond differently so you can't base your assuptions based soley upon the numbers your car has performed or a few other cars. I merely gave my numbers to help in a fellow "machers" decision in theory to the air silencer.

machths · 03-05-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo'd Mach

BTW, all motors respond differently so you can't base your assuptions based soley upon the numbers your car has performed or a few other cars. I merely gave my numbers to help in a fellow "machers" decision in theory to the air silencer.

I agree with that!

Mikie · 03-06-2005, 11:39 AM

Also the diffence in dynos.
I doubt it was a true 9hp swing , but thats just me.
Ya never know.

MightyMach03 · 03-06-2005, 10:43 PM

Regardless, The topic was not whether or not I gained 9rwhp but if the absence of an air silencer gives your motor additional hp. No need for anyone to get their panties in a twist over it. :LAUGH:J/k But you might be right, there are many factors that could have affected the consistency of the dyno.

Mach&Roll · 03-09-2005, 03:06 PM

I think it would gain power. Someone needs to give it a try on the strip to see if it adds power. That is the only real way to test for this type of thing. The shaker hood has been said to only work at like 75-85 mph. YOu would need moving air to tell a difference and on a dyno you are not moving. Just my 2 cents.

mn04mach · 03-16-2005, 02:30 PM

Remove it and put a CAI on instead. End of story.

Mach&Roll · 04-06-2005, 08:01 PM

Yeah one of these days I will get a CAI. I am just waiting till summer to buy it

Mach&Roll · 05-25-2005, 02:53 PM

Well summer is here but I decided to just get a drop in filter for the time being.

marcus1033 · 05-25-2005, 03:27 PM

I wonder how one of those ram air kits from march would work on our cars. I guess you could place the air inlet in the lower valence between the fog lights above the chin spoiler.

Mach&Roll · 05-25-2005, 03:44 PM

Hey marcus do you have a video of your cars exhaust? I am thinking of switching to the MRT H. OH and we have ram air man it is on the shaker hood. I guess it would work on the march kits if you could find a way to keep the shaker fuctional.

mn04mach · 05-25-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus1033

I wonder how one of those ram air kits from march would work on our cars. I guess you could place the air inlet in the lower valence between the fog lights above the chin spoiler.

Prolly not a good idea. The mustang in general doesn't have open airflow for the radiator, blocking off that lower portion would make it all the less.

Mach&Roll · 06-01-2005, 01:47 AM

Man I didn't even think of that problem. GOod observation man.

GetErDone · 06-02-2005, 03:50 AM

All I can say is dont do it, trust me.

Mach&Roll · 06-03-2005, 03:21 PM

Hey I wonder if the march kit would out flow the shaker hood set up or not? Any ideas on that topic?

02-13-2005, 11:05 PM	#1
playtime_04 Guest Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 362	Air intake silencer ON this websiter there is a link on the main page that says How's To's/Mods and i was wondering if anybody has tried to remove the air intake silencer...can you feel any difference in hp or not. Thanks for all your help :LAUGH:

02-13-2005, 11:51 PM	#2
surfnet Machen Bacon Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 868	Re: Air intake silencer If you do a search, you'll find there's already been a lot of discussion on this. I played around with mine on and off. I couldn't really tell much difference (seat of the pants). I finally just decided to compromise, and I cut off the snorkel flush with the opening in the fender. I felt that way I was getting a bit of the best of all worlds. I got a little bigger opening for the air and it would still be pulling the cooler air from the fender well. I think it's just a matter of personal preference what you do. You might get a few extra horses if you remove it or cut the snorkel. If you do make a change, I'd recommend disconnecting the battery cables for maybe 30 minutes and then re attaching. That way the computer can re-set based on the new air flow. __________________ Surfnet 04 Torch Red K&N Filter Snorkel Cut Removed Resonator and Plugged Hole Bullitt Fuel Door MGW E-brake handle, MGW AC control knobs, MGW T Shift handle

02-13-2005, 11:56 PM	#3
MA-MACH1 Thread Killer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Morrisville, NC Posts: 1,050	Re: Air intake silencer I cut mine flush with the fenderwall when I put in the K&N - no way for me to gauge the difference (if any) as the traction control kicks in too early (d**m snow tires). __________________ 03 Mach 1 Torch Red 5 sp IUP 98 GT (long gone) Post killing skills - A+

02-15-2005, 09:09 PM	#4
playtime_04 Guest Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 362	Re: Air intake silencer ..thanks for you help guys

02-16-2005, 07:31 PM	#5
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer I took mine off because I read somewhere it was worth a few hp's. Not enough to notice, but you might have a good idea to cut it off at the fender well. Good idea man. I knew I was on this web site for a reason. Thanks man __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

03-04-2005, 04:05 AM	#6
MightyMach03 Guest Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Weslaco, Texas Posts: 39	Re: Air intake silencer I actually dyno'd the car before and after I took off the silencer and I actually gained 9rwhp and 10ft lbs of torque. So I say it is worth it.

03-04-2005, 02:58 PM	#8
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Any horsepower that is free is good in my book. Even if it is only a few ponies. __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

03-04-2005, 05:44 PM	#10
BoulderMach Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder Posts: 685	Re: Air intake silencer You might find the article below on the Mach 1 Review web site of interest. Mach 1 Review of snorkel/MAF removal

03-05-2005, 07:16 PM	#11
MightyMach03 Guest Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Weslaco, Texas Posts: 39	Re: Air intake silencer I need not to ******** any one, I was on motor and had a couple bolt-ons, like headers, x-pipe, pulleys, throttlebody, kn filter, stall, etc. I dyno'd at 270 and the shop and a friend there with me gave me advice on taking the silencer off. By doing so I went up to 279rwhp....take it for what it is. Thanks Martin

03-05-2005, 07:32 PM	#12
MightyMach03 Guest Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Weslaco, Texas Posts: 39	Re: Air intake silencer BTW, all motors respond differently so you can't base your assuptions based soley upon the numbers your car has performed or a few other cars. I merely gave my numbers to help in a fellow "machers" decision in theory to the air silencer.

03-06-2005, 11:39 AM	#14
Mikie Ultimate Street Machines Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Belmont NC Posts: 243	Re: Air intake silencer Also the diffence in dynos. I doubt it was a true 9hp swing , but thats just me. Ya never know. __________________ 2004 Black Mach 1 Mac Prochamber 40 series flows custom dumped JLT RAI Grand Designs FRPP 4.30 gears Pro 5.0 shifter 17x9 & 10.5 Black Bullitts with steam rollers W.E. Sequential turn signals

03-06-2005, 10:43 PM	#15
MightyMach03 Guest Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Weslaco, Texas Posts: 39	Re: Air intake silencer Regardless, The topic was not whether or not I gained 9rwhp but if the absence of an air silencer gives your motor additional hp. No need for anyone to get their panties in a twist over it. :LAUGH:J/k But you might be right, there are many factors that could have affected the consistency of the dyno.

03-09-2005, 03:06 PM	#16
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer I think it would gain power. Someone needs to give it a try on the strip to see if it adds power. That is the only real way to test for this type of thing. The shaker hood has been said to only work at like 75-85 mph. YOu would need moving air to tell a difference and on a dyno you are not moving. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

03-16-2005, 02:30 PM	#17
mn04mach Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, MN Posts: 123	Re: Air intake silencer Remove it and put a CAI on instead. End of story. __________________ Black 2004 Mach 1 Steeda - Tri-Ax MRT - Street Smart Cold Air SCT - Chip/Tuned FMS - Aluminum Drive Shaft FMS 4.10s MRT Catted H Pipe (that leaks) - GONE MAC Catted Pro-Chamber MAC Catback

04-06-2005, 08:01 PM	#18
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Yeah one of these days I will get a CAI. I am just waiting till summer to buy it __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

05-25-2005, 02:53 PM	#19
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Well summer is here but I decided to just get a drop in filter for the time being. __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

05-25-2005, 03:27 PM	#20
marcus1033 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAFAYETTE, LA Posts: 175	Re: Air intake silencer I wonder how one of those ram air kits from march would work on our cars. I guess you could place the air inlet in the lower valence between the fog lights above the chin spoiler. __________________ MODS: K&N MRT catted H-pipe Borla Stingers MM caster/camber plates H&R SS Fr500 DD

05-25-2005, 03:44 PM	#21
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Hey marcus do you have a video of your cars exhaust? I am thinking of switching to the MRT H. OH and we have ram air man it is on the shaker hood. I guess it would work on the march kits if you could find a way to keep the shaker fuctional. __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

06-01-2005, 01:47 AM	#23
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Man I didn't even think of that problem. GOod observation man. __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

06-02-2005, 03:50 AM	#24
GetErDone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Edmond, Ok Posts: 425	Re: Air intake silencer All I can say is dont do it, trust me. __________________ 03 Oxford White Mach 1 3.90 Gears BBK Off Road X-Pipe K&N Magnaflow Cat-Back Automatic IUP 03 QuickSilver Z06 Texas Speed Long Tubes and Off Road X-Pipe Vararam Ram Air Ported Throttle Body Tuned 03 DSG Mach 1 SOLD

06-03-2005, 03:21 PM	#25
Mach&Roll On the aftermarket trail Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT Posts: 2,588	Re: Air intake silencer Hey I wonder if the march kit would out flow the shaker hood set up or not? Any ideas on that topic? __________________ Rock out with your Mach out! Hang out with you Stang out! 2005 Mustang Gt * 20" wheels * Flowmaster Axel Back Exhaust * K&N CAI Intake * SCT custom tune * Pypes X-Pipe * Shaker 1000 audio system 2004 White Mach 1 * Super Forty Flowmaster Mufflers * Bassani On/Off road X-pipe * Air Silencer Removed * K&N Drop in Filter

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