Ported Short Runner Results - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Nazman · 04-30-2009, 07:59 PM

Ok,

Today we got to spend some quality time at the dyno with a Marauder! Yes!

We did some back to back testing of one of our custom Ported Short Runner intake on STOCK long block Marauder (same motor as the Automatic Mach 1s).

Here is the combination BEFORE DYNO:

Custom Cold Air Intake
Ported Intake (belive it was ported by Steen Racing)
Welded Glass Packs
No Tune

The combination AFTER DYNO:

Everything the same, replaced ported intake with Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner Intake.

RHWP:

RWTQ:

Unfortunately, we did not have a stock intake to compare with! We estimate that the gains would have been 30+RWHP when compared to the stock intake, effectively extending the RPM range well within the stock parameters!

Another thing to notice is that we did not touch the tune. With tuning, we anticipate another easy 10+RWHP gains!!!

Just for "hey lets try this" we bolted a Nazty Ported Intake (fully ported/TIG welded, stock runner lenght) and it made another 8RWHP/TQ on top of the already ported intake!

Have some more pics and videos to load later this evening!

Naz

FastEddie09 · 04-30-2009, 08:09 PM

I think I'm going to be difficult, and stay N/A.............the easy road is not my style

I was just looking at your H/C/I packages. I've got my 4200 stall going in from Darrin on May 4th. I think you might get my next bonus check.

Nice work you do.

Nazman · 04-30-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Why no A/F on either test?

Not a part of YOUR tests, but why no tune with those mods?
I'd had the Marauder tuned just to improve the shifting and correct possible A/f problems with the mods.

I dont have the data base for the Marauders...yet....reason no tuning was done.

All we had for AF was the FAST "stand alone" O2s, and we elected on not utilizing it.

Next time....lol!

Naz

Nazman · 05-01-2009, 02:35 AM

Here are a few photos of the intakes!

From Left to Right:

Nazty Ported & TIG weled (stock runner lenght) Ported Intake
Nazty Ported Short Runner Intake
Ported Intake

From Left to Right:

Ported Intake
Nazty Ported Short Runner
Nazty Ported & TIG Welded (Stock Runner Lenght)

Video coming soon!

Naz

tmhutch · 05-01-2009, 06:31 AM

Very nice! It says a lot about your work when you are willing to consistently post the results.

littlemags · 05-01-2009, 08:44 PM

man....just amazing...my intake comes off after may 16th..and getting shipped...cant wait to get this done

ponygt65 · 05-02-2009, 01:29 AM

Nice job C. Thanks for posting it all up.

crodrc51 · 05-21-2009, 08:36 AM

My attention to your products has been peaked. I have an '03 Mach 1 manual. Checked out your website. Will be in contact by end of summer. Just one question, I believe to have the short spark plug thread cylinder heads. Your prices for the head porting is for a customer's stock heads, or are they purchasing new head cores? Reason I ask is because I am interested in acquiring the '04 heads with the longer spark plug threads. As you can see I'm interested in an HCI. Thanks for any reply.

Unrealford · 05-21-2009, 08:43 AM

So approx 30 rwhp, with a fully welded and ported intake....Hmm seems the worth while investment.. Over 500 bucks for headers with 15 to 20 hp gain. Or 30 hp gain for the same 500 bucks using your modded intake, seems like a simple choice.But Headers and intake would be even better

Nazman · 05-21-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crodrc51

My attention to your products has been peaked. I have an '03 Mach 1 manual. Checked out your website. Will be in contact by end of summer. Just one question, I believe to have the short spark plug thread cylinder heads. Your prices for the head porting is for a customer's stock heads, or are they purchasing new head cores? Reason I ask is because I am interested in acquiring the '04 heads with the longer spark plug threads. As you can see I'm interested in an HCI. Thanks for any reply.

We will love to help you out with the HCI combo or Ported Short Runner! Not a problem!

Let us know when ready!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unrealford

So approx 30 rwhp, with a fully welded and ported intake....Hmm seems the worth while investment.. Over 500 bucks for headers with 15 to 20 hp gain. Or 30 hp gain for the same 500 bucks using your modded intake, seems like a simple choice.But Headers and intake would be even better

Fully Ported Short Runner Intake! Great bang for the buck!

Here is another on a 99 Cobra:

CAI
LTs
U/D Pulleys
4.56 Gears

Before and After with the Nazty Ported Short Runner!

32RWHP gains by 6900RPMs not too bad!

Turbo numbers coming out this weekend!!!

Naz

AsphaltKiller · 05-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Naz, that is 32 peak on the last one with gains across the rpm range or is that mostly peak horse power. does your intake lower or increase torque. sorry if your images show this info I am at work and cannot see the pics.

Nazman · 05-21-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsphaltKiller

Naz, that is 32 peak on the last one with gains across the rpm range or is that mostly peak horse power. does your intake lower or increase torque. sorry if your images show this info I am at work and cannot see the pics.

Here is a breakdown.....I won't have the graphs/files till next week. AVG AF was around 12.80.

RPM/Before HP/After HP/+-HP

4000 209.15 / 208.02 -1.13
4250 231.51 / 221.95 -9.56
4500 244.49 / 242.27 -2.22
4750 260.90 / 264.03 +3.13
5000 276.76 / 276.25 -0.51
5250 278.51 / 289.33 +10.82
5500 284.94 / 301.34 +16.40
5750 290.54 / 307.74 +17.20
6000 298.17 / 308.80 +10.63
6100 299.83 / 309.76 +9.93 Old Peak w/stock Intake
6200 299.60 / 310.80 +11.20
6300 297.97 / 310.65 +12.68
6400 294.00 / 311.73 +17.73 New Peak w/Nazty Intake
6500 290.65 / 311.04 +20.39
6600 286.59 / 310.16 +23.57
6700 282.12 / 309.59 +27.47
6800 276.88 / 307.85 +30.97
6900 273.31 / 306.23 +32.92

RPM/Before TQ/After TQ/+-TQ

4000 274.60 / 273.13 -1.47
4500 285.35 / 282.75 -2.6
5000 290.72 / 290.18 -0.54 Old TQ/New TQ Peak
5500 272.10 / 287.76 +15.66
6000 261.01 / 270.31 +9.3
6100 258.16 / 266.70 +8.54
6200 253.80 / 263.28 +9.48
6300 248.41 / 258.98 +10.57
6400 241.27 / 255.82 +14.55
6500 234.85 / 251.33 +16.48
6600 228.07 / 246.82 +18.75
6700 221.16 / 242.69 +21.53
6800 213.86 / 237.78 +23.92
6900 208.04 / 233.10 +25.06

Not just that but also notice how the Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner bring the power sooner as well!

Notice his old peak power.....299 @ 6100RPM

Notice how he is making 301 @ 5500RPM with the Nazty Intake.

Notice how the he makes 307 by 5750 peaks @ 311 by 6500 and "drops" to 306 by 6900 RPM! Averages 309.48RWHP thru the meat of the power band! Pretty much unheard off for a little 4.6 to average over 300 for such of long strech of power band with such of "mild" peak of 311RWHP!

The trent we are seeing with the Nazty Ported Short Runner is that not only increasses peak power, but its effectivly extending the power band, with power sooner and all the way to the capability of the cam profile.

Naz

Nazman · 05-21-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

LOL..................Now show the below 4000 figures.................where's that stickpoke smilie?

Belive me Bill...I want them as much as you do! Plus...who is racing below 4000RPMs? lol!!!

Yes, I want the data............!!!!!! very much want!!

But even you must admit....bringing the power sooner, and carring the power band like that on a little bolt-on 99, with a mild peak of 311RW is unheard. You as well as I know that!

Naz

ModularSpeed · 05-21-2009, 05:20 PM

Yeah, I dream of making power under 4,000 RPM on my 4V. I go to the track and race from idle, and shift at 4,000 RPM.

nickster · 05-21-2009, 07:27 PM

got any results on your blower intakes naz

Nazman · 05-21-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickster

got any results on your blower intakes naz

20/20RWHP/TQ on Stock Eatons....25+ on bigger KB/Whipple!

Naz

nickster · 05-21-2009, 07:57 PM

thanks naz

Bmeagher · 05-24-2009, 12:33 PM

Got back from the track tonight, ran a best 12.66@108.24mph.
Only other mod was the PSR from NAZ.
Heres the break down from last year, to this year with no other mods. All runs done on 275/11.5R17 ET Streets.

Aug/17/08 ---May/23/09
60' 1.796 --- 1.705
330' 5.317 --- 5.205
660' 8.24 ---8.092
MPH 83.72 ---85.74
990' 10.686 ---10.514
1320 12.87 ---12.66
MPH 106.64 ---108.24

I have a video, but i have no idea how to put it up. And today, i did granny shift, because i hate wasting runs and missing shifts.
Tuesday Night i'm heading back to the dyno to have a before and after graph for the PSR upgrade.

Nazman · 05-24-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmeagher

Got back from the track tonight, ran a best 12.66@108.24mph.
Only other mod was the PSR from NAZ.
Heres the break down from last year, to this year with no other mods. All runs done on 275/11.5R17 ET Streets.

Aug/17/08 ---May/23/09
60' 1.796 --- 1.705
330' 5.317 --- 5.205
660' 8.24 ---8.092
MPH 83.72 ---85.74
990' 10.686 ---10.514
1320 12.87 ---12.66
MPH 106.64 ---108.24

I have a video, but i have no idea how to put it up. And today, i did granny shift, because i hate wasting runs and missing shifts.
Tuesday Night i'm heading back to the dyno to have a before and after graph for the PSR upgrade.

Very nice Brenden!

Good runs!

Email me the video at: stang32v@yahoo.com

and Ill host it for you.

Naz

ModularSpeed · 05-24-2009, 01:57 PM

Nice.

Make sure to hit the track in August for better comparison. May tends to be a little cooler then August in most parts.

Bmeagher · 05-24-2009, 02:12 PM

Aug was my last track outting, and May was my first this year.
Sorrrry for living in Canada! Our summer season is short!

Bmeagher · 05-26-2009, 07:39 PM

New numbers in.
Same dyno both runs.
Old Numbers ---------New Numbers
May/8/09 ------- -----May/26/09
SAE RWHP 287.8 ----- SAE RWHP 298.9
SAE Tq 307.7 -------- SAE Tq 308.2

Thats over a already ported intake!
I have the Graph, but his computer was old school with no flashdrive port.
I'll scan it ASAP. As much as 15rwhp at 5500rpm's. Old peak of 287.8 was at 5300rpm's, new number of 298.9 was at 5500rpm's. No loss of HP! Maybe a loss of 10rwtq between 2500-3000rpm. A gain as much of 30rwhp@6700.

tmhutch · 05-26-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmeagher

New numbers in.
Same dyno both runs.
Old Numbers ---------New Numbers
May/8/09 ------- -----May/26/09
SAE RWHP 287.8 ----- SAE RWHP 298.9
SAE Tq 307.7 -------- SAE Tq 308.2

Thats over a already ported intake!
I have the Graph, but his computer was old school with no flashdrive port.
I'll scan it ASAP. As much as 15rwhp at 5500rpm's. Old peak of 287.8 was at 5300rpm's, new number of 298.9 was at 5500rpm's. No loss of HP! Maybe a loss of 10rwtq between 2500-3000rpm. A gain as much of 30rwhp@6700.

-10 tq below 3000 RPM
+12 hp at peak ony 300 RPM higher
+30 hp at 6700 RPM

I'd say this intake is doing its job

Nazman · 05-28-2009, 10:38 AM

Great gains all across the power band! Now you know shift her higher and take advantage of the power coming on sooner and extra power on the top end! Post the graphs! -Naz

Roy · 05-28-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmeagher

New numbers in.
Same dyno both runs.
Old Numbers ---------New Numbers
May/8/09 ------- -----May/26/09
SAE RWHP 287.8 ----- SAE RWHP 298.9
SAE Tq 307.7 -------- SAE Tq 308.2

Thats over a already ported intake!
I have the Graph, but his computer was old school with no flashdrive port.
I'll scan it ASAP. As much as 15rwhp at 5500rpm's. Old peak of 287.8 was at 5300rpm's, new number of 298.9 was at 5500rpm's. No loss of HP! Maybe a loss of 10rwtq between 2500-3000rpm. A gain as much of 30rwhp@6700.

Automatic trans?

04-30-2009, 07:59 PM	#1
Nazman Nazty Performance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX. Posts: 780	Ported Short Runner Results Ok, Today we got to spend some quality time at the dyno with a Marauder! Yes! We did some back to back testing of one of our custom Ported Short Runner intake on STOCK long block Marauder (same motor as the Automatic Mach 1s). Here is the combination BEFORE DYNO: Custom Cold Air Intake Ported Intake (belive it was ported by Steen Racing) Welded Glass Packs No Tune The combination AFTER DYNO: Everything the same, replaced ported intake with Nazty Performance Ported Short Runner Intake. RHWP: RWTQ: Unfortunately, we did not have a stock intake to compare with! We estimate that the gains would have been 30+RWHP when compared to the stock intake, effectively extending the RPM range well within the stock parameters! Another thing to notice is that we did not touch the tune. With tuning, we anticipate another easy 10+RWHP gains!!! Just for "hey lets try this" we bolted a Nazty Ported Intake (fully ported/TIG welded, stock runner lenght) and it made another 8RWHP/TQ on top of the already ported intake! Have some more pics and videos to load later this evening! Naz

04-30-2009, 08:09 PM	#2
FastEddie09 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 370	Re: Ported Short Runner Results I think I'm going to be difficult, and stay N/A.............the easy road is not my style I was just looking at your H/C/I packages. I've got my 4200 stall going in from Darrin on May 4th. I think you might get my next bonus check. Nice work you do. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 (The Black Slowmatic) 13.1 @ 106mph / 2.05 60ft before stall and dr Tuned by Tim Barth @ Mr Norms Garage 4200 Stall - BC Automotive Nitto NT05-R 275/40/17 MM FLSFC HPM Megabite JR LCAs CHE adjustable UCAs Tociko D-Specs Eibach Pro Kit 31 Spline Cobra diff 31 Spline Mosers FRPP Axle girdle 4.10 Gears FRPP Aluminum DS K&N Intake Intake spacer 3/8 O/R X pipe w/ Magnaflows Shaker air diverter

05-01-2009, 02:35 AM	#4
Nazman Nazty Performance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX. Posts: 780	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Here are a few photos of the intakes! From Left to Right: Nazty Ported & TIG weled (stock runner lenght) Ported Intake Nazty Ported Short Runner Intake Ported Intake From Left to Right: Ported Intake Nazty Ported Short Runner Nazty Ported & TIG Welded (Stock Runner Lenght) Video coming soon! Naz

05-01-2009, 06:31 AM	#5
tmhutch 4v>3v>2v Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 727	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Very nice! It says a lot about your work when you are willing to consistently post the results.

05-01-2009, 08:44 PM	#6
littlemags finally paid for Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ypsilanti Twp, Mi Posts: 4,077	Re: Ported Short Runner Results man....just amazing...my intake comes off after may 16th..and getting shipped...cant wait to get this done __________________ 2004 mach 1-turbo build in progress.. Fast xfi 2.0 OLD combo- 826rwhp/720 trq -100 shot NX 9.13@154 on 100 shot NEW- in progress...

05-02-2009, 01:29 AM	#7
ponygt65 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 7,687	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Nice job C. Thanks for posting it all up. __________________ Current Stable: NO stangs.....DON'T F'ING remind me. Previous stangs: 2003 Mineral Grey Cobra Vert 1965 Factory GT K Code Coupe - mostly original and numbers matching. 14.9 (best) GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!! 2003 MACh 1 AB - MINE!..SLP LM1s, PHP Spacer, and a CAI, that wont' stop whistling. 2004 MACh 1 DSG - PHP spacer, BOrla Stingers, K and N CAI, Tune, X-pipe, 1" 1-piece raised shaker...yadda yadda.

05-21-2009, 08:36 AM	#8
crodrc51 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Land O lakes, FL Posts: 41	Re: Ported Short Runner Results My attention to your products has been peaked. I have an '03 Mach 1 manual. Checked out your website. Will be in contact by end of summer. Just one question, I believe to have the short spark plug thread cylinder heads. Your prices for the head porting is for a customer's stock heads, or are they purchasing new head cores? Reason I ask is because I am interested in acquiring the '04 heads with the longer spark plug threads. As you can see I'm interested in an HCI. Thanks for any reply.

05-21-2009, 08:43 AM	#9
Unrealford Mustang owner since 1984 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,515	Re: Ported Short Runner Results So approx 30 rwhp, with a fully welded and ported intake....Hmm seems the worth while investment.. Over 500 bucks for headers with 15 to 20 hp gain. Or 30 hp gain for the same 500 bucks using your modded intake, seems like a simple choice.But Headers and intake would be even better __________________ 2012 Kona Blue Metallic BOSS MOMS Racing... 11.92@115.43 stock besides drag radials http://www.dragzine.com/news/moms-ra...2013-schedule/

05-21-2009, 03:05 PM	#11
AsphaltKiller Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oviedo,Florida Posts: 508	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Naz, that is 32 peak on the last one with gains across the rpm range or is that mostly peak horse power. does your intake lower or increase torque. sorry if your images show this info I am at work and cannot see the pics. __________________ Here she is... DOB: 10/09/2003 Current Mods: SCT2 Tuner, C&L Intake tube, 3/8" PHP Spacer, 4:10's Steeda (CA, Upper/Lowers - Rear, Sport Springs, x2 ball joints, 3 hole CC Plates, bumpsteer kit, Aluminum rack bushings,Front/Rear STB) Stock 17x8 255's front Stock Reps 17x9 285's rear T56 swap w/Pro 5.0 Kooks LT w/ catted X Ultr Flow Catback Best 1/4 13.1 @ 108 --before mods

05-21-2009, 05:20 PM	#14
ModularSpeed Mach Underhood Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FL Posts: 1,677	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Yeah, I dream of making power under 4,000 RPM on my 4V. I go to the track and race from idle, and shift at 4,000 RPM. __________________ Stock 4.6 4V, Cobra Cammed: 11.63@117.84 - N/A T45 / 4.56 / Drag Radials - N/A 4V Video

05-21-2009, 07:27 PM	#15
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Ported Short Runner Results got any results on your blower intakes naz __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

05-21-2009, 07:57 PM	#17
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Ported Short Runner Results thanks naz __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

05-24-2009, 12:33 PM	#18
Bmeagher Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cowtown, Alberta Posts: 1,261	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Got back from the track tonight, ran a best 12.66@108.24mph. Only other mod was the PSR from NAZ. Heres the break down from last year, to this year with no other mods. All runs done on 275/11.5R17 ET Streets. Aug/17/08 ---May/23/09 60' 1.796 --- 1.705 330' 5.317 --- 5.205 660' 8.24 ---8.092 MPH 83.72 ---85.74 990' 10.686 ---10.514 1320 12.87 ---12.66 MPH 106.64 ---108.24 I have a video, but i have no idea how to put it up. And today, i did granny shift, because i hate wasting runs and missing shifts. Tuesday Night i'm heading back to the dyno to have a before and after graph for the PSR upgrade. __________________ Maximum Motorsports race series shocks/struts, coilovers front and rear, K member, bump steer kit, solid steering shaft, Panhard bar. Built Rear End with 4.30's, Hooker longtubes, Comp 106100's, Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel, Centerforce DF, *FR500 intaked 1/2" Spacer, Livernois Springs, Ford GT Followers in the works.* *SAE 378RWHP ,302 ft/lbs* 70-120mph run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqjiOeYWAE

05-24-2009, 01:57 PM	#20
ModularSpeed Mach Underhood Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FL Posts: 1,677	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Nice. Make sure to hit the track in August for better comparison. May tends to be a little cooler then August in most parts. __________________ Stock 4.6 4V, Cobra Cammed: 11.63@117.84 - N/A T45 / 4.56 / Drag Radials - N/A 4V Video

05-24-2009, 02:12 PM	#21
Bmeagher Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cowtown, Alberta Posts: 1,261	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Aug was my last track outting, and May was my first this year. Sorrrry for living in Canada! Our summer season is short! __________________ Maximum Motorsports race series shocks/struts, coilovers front and rear, K member, bump steer kit, solid steering shaft, Panhard bar. Built Rear End with 4.30's, Hooker longtubes, Comp 106100's, Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel, Centerforce DF, *FR500 intaked 1/2" Spacer, Livernois Springs, Ford GT Followers in the works.* *SAE 378RWHP ,302 ft/lbs* 70-120mph run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqjiOeYWAE

05-26-2009, 07:39 PM	#22
Bmeagher Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cowtown, Alberta Posts: 1,261	Re: Ported Short Runner Results New numbers in. Same dyno both runs. Old Numbers ---------New Numbers May/8/09 ------- -----May/26/09 SAE RWHP 287.8 ----- SAE RWHP 298.9 SAE Tq 307.7 -------- SAE Tq 308.2 Thats over a already ported intake! I have the Graph, but his computer was old school with no flashdrive port. I'll scan it ASAP. As much as 15rwhp at 5500rpm's. Old peak of 287.8 was at 5300rpm's, new number of 298.9 was at 5500rpm's. No loss of HP! Maybe a loss of 10rwtq between 2500-3000rpm. A gain as much of 30rwhp@6700. __________________ Maximum Motorsports race series shocks/struts, coilovers front and rear, K member, bump steer kit, solid steering shaft, Panhard bar. Built Rear End with 4.30's, Hooker longtubes, Comp 106100's, Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel, Centerforce DF, *FR500 intaked 1/2" Spacer, Livernois Springs, Ford GT Followers in the works.* *SAE 378RWHP ,302 ft/lbs* 70-120mph run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqjiOeYWAE

05-28-2009, 10:38 AM	#24
Nazman Nazty Performance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX. Posts: 780	Re: Ported Short Runner Results Great gains all across the power band! Now you know shift her higher and take advantage of the power coming on sooner and extra power on the top end! Post the graphs! -Naz

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