Any personal experience with Vortech? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

swaftom · 05-31-2009, 12:38 PM

I am considering buying the Vortech kit for my Mach 1. Since this is such a big purchase for me I was wondering if anyone has any experience running Vortechs on their stangs? Could you please tell me what car and kind of Vortech you were using, and especially helpful is Mach 1 Vortech users, but any Vortech use is useful. It would be one a daily driver with 43,000 miles, never really abused, runs fine. Please provide info on:
1. any problems you had with the Vortech
2. model of Vortech and stang
3. how many miles you put on the Vortech (I'm looking for longevity, not something that will be cool for 15-20K miles then mess up).

Thanks so much in advance, as this is such a major purchase for me, any info helps.
P.S. I think I've read enough problem posts here and there for the procharger that I have ruled it out, I don't want to spend that much and have issues.

jbrad88 · 05-31-2009, 01:20 PM

If the company is as good as it was when I bought my blowers from them for my fox, you won't be disappointed.

I personally would not buy any other brand but Vortech for a centri-blower.

That is just me.

Had them for 7 years, beat the poop out of them, never a days problem.

Shane@TM · 06-01-2009, 04:57 AM

As far as I know, Vortec's require some perminate modifications. And if you break a belt you have to remove the headunit? I'm 100% happy with my Procharger, and boy was it easy to install!

Furinox · 06-01-2009, 10:12 AM

I have a vortech T trim on my car and pretty happy with it so far. Go ahead and add a custom A/A intercooler when you install it. The kits are only $200-$250 on ebay.

Best advice I can give is don't put a supercharger on your car unless you can afford to rebuild the motor. Not saying anything will go wrong, but it is possible.

Furinox · 06-01-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane@TM

As far as I know, Vortec's require some perminate modifications. And if you break a belt you have to remove the headunit? I'm 100% happy with my Procharger, and boy was it easy to install!

That's true about the belt. I thought the procharger for the mach was the same way though. I've removed my blower so many times I could change a belt in less than an hour.

2k4mach · 06-01-2009, 10:15 AM

Vortech is still 1 of the best setups around and 1 of the best companies for blowers.

mach1z · 06-01-2009, 10:23 AM

Isn't a procharger much louder also? on idle

rich1 · 06-01-2009, 10:35 AM

I think i would get a Procharger ( even though the seals go bad sometimes )the install is better suited to the Mach than the Vortech.

Braceyaself · 06-02-2009, 06:24 PM

vortech hands down a better blower

ScreeminMach · 06-02-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Braceyaself

vortech hands down a better blower

I'm shocked! I've really never even considered a Vortech only because the Procharger has such a great 3 core intercooler. Should I rethink my descision?

Braceyaself · 06-02-2009, 08:08 PM

I would i can make your a nice intercooler set up if you would like. i LOVED my vortech Never skipped a beat and never leaked! People bish about the install i dont know why i had it done in 5 hours 1st time ever messing with a blower. Ran 11.3s non intercooled that weekend!

1crazymach · 06-03-2009, 01:01 AM

Procharger

Beefy Nugz · 06-03-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Furinox

That's true about the belt. I thought the procharger for the mach was the same way though. I've removed my blower so many times I could change a belt in less than an hour.

Nope. Takes about 2 min to change the belt with a procharger.

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

Vortech is still 1 of the best setups around and 1 of the best companies for blowers.

Have any experience with procharger?

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Originally Posted by Braceyaself

vortech hands down a better blower

Have any experience with procharger?

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Originally Posted by mach1z

Isn't a procharger much louder also? on idle

Procharger sounds bad azz at idle, sounds like a turbo when you rev it.

Furinox · 06-03-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beefy Nugz

Nope. Takes about 2 min to change the belt with a procharger.

Have any experience with procharger?

Have any experience with procharger?

Procharger sounds bad azz at idle, sounds like a turbo when you rev it.

I think both the P1 procharger, and the s trim vortech don't sound that great. The D1 procharger and T trim vortech sound awesome though.

ITLRUN · 06-05-2009, 09:22 PM

I just ordered a Vortech blower for my car. I could have bought any number of blowers and was even pushed toward a Procharger. But... I have dealet with Vortech for years and I have NEVER had any problems. They used to sponsor my race car back in the day.

Braceyaself · 06-06-2009, 08:12 AM

All my experince comes from stuff I have seen in person my car made 460 ran in the 10s. My buddys vortech cobra has like 40k no issues. No leaky head units no b.s. I think my car was also faster then 90% of the procharged mach1s if seen.It's not that I dislike procharger Iv just never been imprssed other then the f1s

swaftom · 06-09-2009, 05:18 PM

thanks for all the info guys.

slderos · 06-09-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Braceyaself

All my experince comes from stuff I have seen in person my car made 460 ran in the 10s. My buddys vortech cobra has like 40k no issues. No leaky head units no b.s. I think my car was also faster then 90% of the procharged mach1s if seen.It's not that I dislike procharger Iv just never been imprssed other then the f1s

You show me a vorteched mach that beats a procharged mach and I can show you a procharged mach that can beat a vorteched mach. Not a very good argument if you ask me. Come up with some hardcore numbers on the dyno with equivalent boost or even better yet have equivalently outfitted machs on track race and see, way too many variables.

Braceyaself · 06-09-2009, 08:45 PM

Compare my car to 90%of cars with prochargers my lil. Vortech did work. How many prochargers head units last more 10 k miles shut even 5k

slderos · 06-09-2009, 08:52 PM

I got around 10K on mine and its still working strong, I can't speak for all other prochargers but I've not had an issue. With 11 psig of boost and full weight I bet I'm real close to 11 flat in the quarter on a mild tune, take a little weight off and some gears and my lil Procharger will move also.

Braceyaself · 06-10-2009, 10:20 AM

You also have a d1 with an auto with cams. My stock motor s trim ran in the 10s with a 5 speed. Also with a stock driveline minus the rear. I'm not trying to come off like an ******* just people are very agaisnt vortech on this site. A few Buddys of mine have well over 30 k on there blowers and they run mint. I'm speaking purley off what I see.

eenster · 06-14-2009, 08:50 PM

got nothing but good things still to say about vortech

cmylxgo · 06-17-2009, 10:32 AM

I've run just about every Vortech blower on my Fox. A-Trim, B-Trim, S-Trim, T-Trim, J-Trim, X-Trim, and XX-Trim. I have also run just about every ProCharger blower on my Mach. P1SC, P1SC-2, D1SC, F1A, F1C, and F1R.

Both company's make great products and both have excellent customer support. I have had seal issues with both products since they both use the same seals.

If you were to ask me for my opinion on which way to go I would say ProCharger for the following reasons...

1. Higher Step-Up ratios - Easier to make boost.
2. Self Contained - Easier to install. However, Vortech now has SC units.
3. Intercooled standard - IMHO Vortech's Aftercooler is limited and cumbersome.

-Corey

rcodemach1 · 06-21-2009, 10:43 AM

Hard to follow that great post, but I've had no problems with my Vortech on this car or ones I've run on a 2000 GT and a couple of Fox body cars.

My current setup doesn't rattle on pump gas (but I'm pretty careful with it), was easy to install, and runs great. At the track I've been adding a couple gallons of race gas. I would agree with the suggestion to run methanol/water injection.

05-31-2009, 12:38 PM	#1
swaftom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 53	Any personal experience with Vortech? I am considering buying the Vortech kit for my Mach 1. Since this is such a big purchase for me I was wondering if anyone has any experience running Vortechs on their stangs? Could you please tell me what car and kind of Vortech you were using, and especially helpful is Mach 1 Vortech users, but any Vortech use is useful. It would be one a daily driver with 43,000 miles, never really abused, runs fine. Please provide info on: 1. any problems you had with the Vortech 2. model of Vortech and stang 3. how many miles you put on the Vortech (I'm looking for longevity, not something that will be cool for 15-20K miles then mess up). Thanks so much in advance, as this is such a major purchase for me, any info helps. P.S. I think I've read enough problem posts here and there for the procharger that I have ruled it out, I don't want to spend that much and have issues.

05-31-2009, 01:20 PM	#2
jbrad88 Original Owner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,172	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? If the company is as good as it was when I bought my blowers from them for my fox, you won't be disappointed. I personally would not buy any other brand but Vortech for a centri-blower. That is just me. Had them for 7 years, beat the poop out of them, never a days problem. __________________ JB 03 Torch Red Mach 1 21 FJG Mach 1 Stainless Steel Systems Adrenaline Series BBK long tube headers catted x pipe 18x9 18x10- Solid Gloss Black FR5's Nitto 555 g2 275/35r18's 285/35r18 MGW Shifter With Mach1 Shift Knob 4.10's & 31 spline Mosers and 31 Spline Posi Steeda Sport Springs Tokiko Illuminas J@M weight Jacker LCA's J@M Rear UCA's J@M Braided steel brake lines Eibach Sway Bars

06-01-2009, 04:57 AM	#3
Shane@TM Toledo Mustangs Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: toledo, ohio Posts: 1,433	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? As far as I know, Vortec's require some perminate modifications. And if you break a belt you have to remove the headunit? I'm 100% happy with my Procharger, and boy was it easy to install! __________________ Toledo Mustang Club Under the knife AGAIN! "The more you mod it, the more it breaks" CRT PERFORMANCE TUNED

06-01-2009, 10:12 AM	#4
Furinox Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? I have a vortech T trim on my car and pretty happy with it so far. Go ahead and add a custom A/A intercooler when you install it. The kits are only $200-$250 on ebay. Best advice I can give is don't put a supercharger on your car unless you can afford to rebuild the motor. Not saying anything will go wrong, but it is possible. __________________ ________________________________________ Forged Shortblock with Ported Eaton using custom mounting brackets. More information here www.never2fast.net

06-01-2009, 10:15 AM	#6
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? Vortech is still 1 of the best setups around and 1 of the best companies for blowers. __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

06-01-2009, 10:23 AM	#7
mach1z Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodstock,GA Posts: 544	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? Isn't a procharger much louder also? on idle

06-01-2009, 10:35 AM	#8
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06-02-2009, 06:24 PM	#9
Braceyaself Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wolcott,ct Posts: 1,598	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? vortech hands down a better blower __________________ X cal 2 jannetty racing tuned Turbo mach to many mods to list 9s or bust in 09 10.8@126

06-02-2009, 08:08 PM	#11
Braceyaself Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wolcott,ct Posts: 1,598	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? I would i can make your a nice intercooler set up if you would like. i LOVED my vortech Never skipped a beat and never leaked! People bish about the install i dont know why i had it done in 5 hours 1st time ever messing with a blower. Ran 11.3s non intercooled that weekend! __________________ X cal 2 jannetty racing tuned Turbo mach to many mods to list 9s or bust in 09 10.8@126

06-03-2009, 01:01 AM	#12
1crazymach Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: modesto,ca Posts: 96	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? Procharger __________________ STOCK

06-05-2009, 09:22 PM	#15
ITLRUN Cloud Nine Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Adairsville, GA Posts: 3,132	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? I just ordered a Vortech blower for my car. I could have bought any number of blowers and was even pushed toward a Procharger. But... I have dealet with Vortech for years and I have NEVER had any problems. They used to sponsor my race car back in the day. __________________ Joe Charles HiPoJoeCharles.com Please "LIKE" my Facebook Fan Page!

06-06-2009, 08:12 AM	#16
Braceyaself Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wolcott,ct Posts: 1,598	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? All my experince comes from stuff I have seen in person my car made 460 ran in the 10s. My buddys vortech cobra has like 40k no issues. No leaky head units no b.s. I think my car was also faster then 90% of the procharged mach1s if seen.It's not that I dislike procharger Iv just never been imprssed other then the f1s __________________ X cal 2 jannetty racing tuned Turbo mach to many mods to list 9s or bust in 09 10.8@126

06-09-2009, 05:18 PM	#17
swaftom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 53	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? thanks for all the info guys.

06-09-2009, 08:45 PM	#19
Braceyaself Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wolcott,ct Posts: 1,598	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? Compare my car to 90%of cars with prochargers my lil. Vortech did work. How many prochargers head units last more 10 k miles shut even 5k __________________ X cal 2 jannetty racing tuned Turbo mach to many mods to list 9s or bust in 09 10.8@126

06-09-2009, 08:52 PM	#20
slderos slderos Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rock Port, MO Posts: 141	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? I got around 10K on mine and its still working strong, I can't speak for all other prochargers but I've not had an issue. With 11 psig of boost and full weight I bet I'm real close to 11 flat in the quarter on a mild tune, take a little weight off and some gears and my lil Procharger will move also. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 11 psig D1 procharger 60 lb/hr fuel inj, dual focus fp, 3600 stall, stage 3 cams. 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 edelbrock 88cc heads, suregrip

06-10-2009, 10:20 AM	#21
Braceyaself Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wolcott,ct Posts: 1,598	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? You also have a d1 with an auto with cams. My stock motor s trim ran in the 10s with a 5 speed. Also with a stock driveline minus the rear. I'm not trying to come off like an ******* just people are very agaisnt vortech on this site. A few Buddys of mine have well over 30 k on there blowers and they run mint. I'm speaking purley off what I see. __________________ X cal 2 jannetty racing tuned Turbo mach to many mods to list 9s or bust in 09 10.8@126

06-14-2009, 08:50 PM	#22
eenster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: machesney park,IL Posts: 332	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? got nothing but good things still to say about vortech __________________ 03 oxford white AUTO (hand controls!) best ET stock ...13.574@102.83 now... 11.593@117.19 Kooks lt's, kooks o/r X, and a magnaflow cat back. vortech supercharger, snow proformance meth injection kit, torq converter, and a tru-cool trans cooler, 4.10's moser 31 spline axles, auburn pro 31 spline diff. afs 17x10.5 with a 315 BFG DR out back!

06-17-2009, 10:32 AM	#23
cmylxgo Blower Guru Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Motor City Posts: 2,224	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? I've run just about every Vortech blower on my Fox. A-Trim, B-Trim, S-Trim, T-Trim, J-Trim, X-Trim, and XX-Trim. I have also run just about every ProCharger blower on my Mach. P1SC, P1SC-2, D1SC, F1A, F1C, and F1R. Both company's make great products and both have excellent customer support. I have had seal issues with both products since they both use the same seals. If you were to ask me for my opinion on which way to go I would say ProCharger for the following reasons... 1. Higher Step-Up ratios - Easier to make boost. 2. Self Contained - Easier to install. However, Vortech now has SC units. 3. Intercooled standard - IMHO Vortech's Aftercooler is limited and cumbersome. -Corey __________________ YouTube Videos: http://www.youtube.com/slugbitchracing 2003 Mustang Mach 1 AutoMatic (Torch Red) Born On Date: 2.28.03 Vin: 396895 Adoption Date: 9.07.09 Best ET: 9.54 Best MPH: 149.99 Best 60FT: 1.32 All done on 17" Radials

06-21-2009, 10:43 AM	#24
rcodemach1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 1,461	Re: Any personal experience with Vortech? Hard to follow that great post, but I've had no problems with my Vortech on this car or ones I've run on a 2000 GT and a couple of Fox body cars. My current setup doesn't rattle on pump gas (but I'm pretty careful with it), was easy to install, and runs great. At the track I've been adding a couple gallons of race gas. I would agree with the suggestion to run methanol/water injection. __________________ '03 Mach, Oxford White, 5-spd, Eaton '03 Mach, Black, automatic (parting out) '98 GT, 410w, C4, Vortech

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