6rib with an F1a? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

mastwolf · 07-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Is it possible to run a 6rib with an f1a? Reason I ask is im looking at getting an F1 after my P1 has taken a crap. And I have a $450 OD IW crank pulley that i dont really wanna get rid of. I was Making 14lbs with it and a 3.4" pulley on my P1, and If i could use a 3.4 on the f1a it would make more boost, and hopefully not slip on a 6rib. Then later I can convert to a 8rib setup and go smaller on the blower pulley.

I'd be pulling all my resources to buy an F1a and an 8rib conversion at the moment would not be possible...that and I have to have my car together for mustangs vs the world 2.

Any one have any input?

Thanks!
Chris

ScreaminMachOne · 07-11-2009, 08:17 PM

You can try that f1a will make 20psi plus with that pulley on there, My friends f1a mach with 8 rib and 4.15 pulley makes 15psi. It it will slip its *** off with that 6 rib prob

mastwolf · 07-11-2009, 09:01 PM

I can always go bigger, with a 4.0 RR pulley. Honestly 20lbs would be fine. I have supporting mods.

UrbanKnight · 07-11-2009, 09:58 PM

Honestly,

If you are squawking over a $450 pulley, and scraping your pennies together, don't get the F1... You are not putting the right resources into making it right, and it will cost you in the long run...

Perhaps looking at the D1 instead... You can comfortably make low to mid 500's on the D, and it much more wallet friendly

mastwolf · 07-11-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanKnight

Honestly,

If you are squawking over a $450 pulley, and scraping your pennies together, don't get the F1... You are not putting the right resources into making it right, and it will cost you in the long run...

Perhaps looking at the D1 instead... You can comfortably make low to mid 500's on the D, and it much more wallet friendly

Not really squawking, just Would not have the funds at the time. I can always sell the 6rib and get an 8rib conversion, or go cog setup. Im in the navy get paid every 2weeks, and I dont make that much money, but I DONT need my car...just if i can help it, i'd like to make this race coming up next month...see where im comming from?

d18urzr1 · 07-11-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mastwolf

Not really squawking, just Would not have the funds at the time. I can always sell the 6rib and get an 8rib conversion, or go cog setup. Im in the navy get paid every 2weeks, and I dont make that much money, but I DONT need my car...just if i can help it, i'd like to make this race coming up next month...see where im comming from?

this answer all depends on the power your trying to make....if its around 600 your wasting your money on the f1.....its overkill...

i still make my numbers on a 6rib.....and still get booted from epping every year

mastwolf · 07-11-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

this answer all depends on the power your trying to make....if its around 600 your wasting your money on the f1.....its overkill...

i still make my numbers on a 6rib.....and still get booted from epping every year

Have any more details on your setup?

I will deff keep my power levels south of 800hp range.

Thor · 07-12-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mastwolf

Not really squawking, just Would not have the funds at the time. I can always sell the 6rib and get an 8rib conversion, or go cog setup. Im in the navy get paid every 2weeks, and I dont make that much money, but I DONT need my car...just if i can help it, i'd like to make this race coming up next month...see where im comming from?

Where's your bonus as a submariner?

mastwolf · 07-12-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Where's your bonus as a submariner?

$85/month

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 10:59 AM

I'd think you would be fine as long as you dont go to a smaller pulley.

Thor · 07-12-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mastwolf

$85/month

That's $85.00 more than I ever received over a 27-year period...

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mastwolf

Have any more details on your setup?

I will deff keep my power levels south of 800hp range.

stock compression...(built obviously) stock ported heads, cams and some boost...13-14psi....low timing.........gave me awesome gains......104octane is 700rw

belt setup- stock 6rib....3.8 w/ iw crank

Linumup · 07-12-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

stock compression...(built obviously) stock ported heads, cams and some boost...13-14psi....low timing.........gave me awesome gains......104octane is 700rw

belt setup- stock 6rib....3.8 w/ iw crank

Id like to see this !

D1SC , 6 rib 13-14 psi

Dont think so !!!

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Linumup

Id like to see this !

D1SC , 6 rib 13-14 psi

Dont think so !!!

dude im sorry your car never made power with a d1,but you have to be the most cocky guy ive ever met.....

im sure anyone in the mass/nh area thats been to protree performance can confirm it.....and id be glad to fax a copy of my graph to someone if they want to post it being i have no scanner....i can put linemup on the front so you know its mine haha

Linumup · 07-12-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

dude im sorry your car never made power with a d1,but you have to be the most cocky guy ive ever met.....

im sure anyone in the mass/nh area thats been to protree performance can confirm it.....and id be glad to fax a copy of my graph to someone if they want to post it being i have no scanner....i can put linemup on the front so you know its mine haha

With a whole 4 posts you know me huh ?

BS !

PS
You dont need a scanner to post it up either .

Lets see pics of the car and your set-up .

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Linumup

Id like to see this !

D1SC , 6 rib 13-14 psi

Dont think so !!!

What are you thinking is hard to believe? The only thing I can see is the hp numbers seem a little high. Wouldnt a D1 14 psi car with h/c only maybe make 550 max? Unless you had a lot more cubes anyway, which me might. not sure.

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 09:02 PM

pics the best i can

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

pics the best i can

is it wavy like that cause of belt slip?

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Furinox

is it wavy like that cause of belt slip?

slip or its because i had light damage to the impeller...head unit is being rebuilt right now...ill email someone the entire graph if they like...it wont let me post it because of the size

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

slip or its because i had light damage to the impeller...head unit is being rebuilt right now...ill email someone the entire graph if they like...it wont let me post it because of the size

where did you get your crank pulley from?

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 09:14 PM

ebay 200 buck shipped...sweeeeet deal def helps get the most out of a 6rib....and from all my tests i could never get anything smaller than a 3.8 not to slip at 7k......with some grinding you may be able to fit an even bigger version of the o/d innovators crank pully...

as far as linemup i saw him at a track a ways back running against a blue mach1 at MIR i believe they call it...i dont know what was done to the blue mach1...lol but he(blue) didnt loose

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

ebay 200 buck shipped...sweeeeet deal def helps get the most out of a 6rib....and from all my tests i could never get anything smaller than a 3.8 not to slip at 7k......with some grinding you may be able to fit an even bigger version of the o/d innovators crank pully...

as far as linemup i saw him at a track a ways back running against a blue mach1 at MIR i believe they call it...i dont know what was done to the blue mach1...lol but he(blue) didnt loose

i'm running a vortech and wanting to make more boost. I'm thinking the crank pulley would be my best next choice.

d18urzr1 · 07-12-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Furinox

i'm running a vortech and wanting to make more boost. I'm thinking the crank pulley would be my best next choice.

im very happy with mine....getting a bigger crank vs smaller blower pulley will help with the slip problems too....what vortech are you running...? also i did one of the accufab t/bs that seemed to make a decent differance in the hp range as well...

Linumup · 07-12-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Someone post a timeslip!

At least i can post one .

Would you like me to finish that car for you ? At least it will get finished .

Now thats what is really funny .

Furinox · 07-12-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1

im very happy with mine....getting a bigger crank vs smaller blower pulley will help with the slip problems too....what vortech are you running...? also i did one of the accufab t/bs that seemed to make a decent differance in the hp range as well...

It's a t trim. Running about 12 lbs now. I'd like to make 14-15

07-11-2009, 05:04 PM	#1
mastwolf USN Submariner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Port, FL/ Sandiego CA Posts: 583	6rib with an F1a? Is it possible to run a 6rib with an f1a? Reason I ask is im looking at getting an F1 after my P1 has taken a crap. And I have a $450 OD IW crank pulley that i dont really wanna get rid of. I was Making 14lbs with it and a 3.4" pulley on my P1, and If i could use a 3.4 on the f1a it would make more boost, and hopefully not slip on a 6rib. Then later I can convert to a 8rib setup and go smaller on the blower pulley. I'd be pulling all my resources to buy an F1a and an 8rib conversion at the moment would not be possible...that and I have to have my car together for mustangs vs the world 2. Any one have any input? Thanks! Chris __________________ 2004 White Mach 1, 5spd The more You Mod, The more they break! Current Status: Down Built Motor High CR, Blower Cams Procharger D1S/C @15lbs Return Fuel System

07-11-2009, 08:17 PM	#2
ScreaminMachOne Missing Third! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sterling,Va Posts: 919	Re: 6rib with an F1a? You can try that f1a will make 20psi plus with that pulley on there, My friends f1a mach with 8 rib and 4.15 pulley makes 15psi. It it will slip its *** off with that 6 rib prob __________________ 2004 Mach1-Sold Forged-D1 10.89@128mph

07-11-2009, 09:01 PM	#3
mastwolf USN Submariner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Port, FL/ Sandiego CA Posts: 583	Re: 6rib with an F1a? I can always go bigger, with a 4.0 RR pulley. Honestly 20lbs would be fine. I have supporting mods. __________________ 2004 White Mach 1, 5spd The more You Mod, The more they break! Current Status: Down Built Motor High CR, Blower Cams Procharger D1S/C @15lbs Return Fuel System

07-11-2009, 09:58 PM	#4
UrbanKnight Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 351	Re: 6rib with an F1a? Honestly, If you are squawking over a $450 pulley, and scraping your pennies together, don't get the F1... You are not putting the right resources into making it right, and it will cost you in the long run... Perhaps looking at the D1 instead... You can comfortably make low to mid 500's on the D, and it much more wallet friendly __________________ Its easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission...

07-12-2009, 10:59 AM	#10
Furinox Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: 6rib with an F1a? I'd think you would be fine as long as you dont go to a smaller pulley. __________________ ________________________________________ Forged Shortblock with Ported Eaton using custom mounting brackets. More information here www.never2fast.net

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d18urzr1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: boston,ma Posts: 37	Re: 6rib with an F1a? pics the best i can Attached Thumbnails __________________ d1sc mach1.....700rwhp race gas 632 pump w/12' timing

07-12-2009, 09:14 PM	#21
d18urzr1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: boston,ma Posts: 37	Re: 6rib with an F1a? ebay 200 buck shipped...sweeeeet deal def helps get the most out of a 6rib....and from all my tests i could never get anything smaller than a 3.8 not to slip at 7k......with some grinding you may be able to fit an even bigger version of the o/d innovators crank pully... as far as linemup i saw him at a track a ways back running against a blue mach1 at MIR i believe they call it...i dont know what was done to the blue mach1...lol but he(blue) didnt loose __________________ d1sc mach1.....700rwhp race gas 632 pump w/12' timing

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