Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

02gtfromky · 03-29-2010, 10:46 PM

Buying a procharged mach and it put down 475rwhp and i have been told anything over 415 on stock internals is like a ticking time bomb. N since the car is going to be my everyday car i wabt it to b safe to drive and not be worried about blowing it up? Thanks for any input

Unrealford · 03-29-2010, 10:50 PM

You will see many post about this.. Basically in a nutshell, keep boost 10psi and its all about a safe tune and not beating the snot outta it over and over,

ASH302 · 03-30-2010, 05:27 AM

yea like someone will prob post did you search first, i know i've started a thread bout this and got bash for it, i'm going to be around 450rwhp on my mach, around that and you will be find, that mach depending on how well the tune is on it and also what the boost is setting at. to be honest your prob going to be fine with where it is at now. if it has a p1sc you could always put a bigger size pulley on it to bring the hp down and boost, on d1sc you re kinda limited to how much you can bring it down. another thing you can do is go to power adder area and look threw the procharger sticky and see what numbers most of them guys are at, to be honest that is a normal number i have seen and also seen higher than that. so i say your good to go, but might consider lowering the hp on it,

ASH302 · 03-30-2010, 05:30 AM

also maybe if you can save up for a new engine, i'm going to be start saving for a aluminator longblock soon, that way i can up my boost and run alot hp, but for say if you wanted to stay in that hp range, you ill know you will have a engine that can handle that hp and not worry bout it blowing, something to think bout for the future. just a thought, don't have to

Fenixfire · 03-30-2010, 01:11 PM

See what boost he is running. If you stay out of boost the engine will last forever, but it will be fine at that power level too as long as you dont bounce it off the redline all the time, etc.

24kmach · 03-30-2010, 01:47 PM

Save your engine and give me the Procharger.

02gtfromky · 03-30-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 24kmach

Save your engine and give me the Procharger.

Haha couldnt do that... It has 10lb pulley on it and modular depot installed and tuned the car and said the first pull it put down more then they would feel comfortable on stock motor, so they detuned it and put a limiter on the tune at 6k... Like i stated above im going to be daily driving the car and i want it to be safe, i wont be raping the car every chance i get but when i feel the urge to lay into it every now and then i dont wanna have to worry. Sorry if this is a repost but i did a search before i posted and couldnt find the answers i wanted. Thanks

ASH302 · 03-30-2010, 03:14 PM

is it by chance a AZ blue mach with low low miles? just curious

and the guy is a younger kid?

at 10psi you will be fine, if everything is tuned right then your good to go. get it

02gtfromky · 03-31-2010, 12:23 PM

Yes it is, im going to pick the car up today or tmrw already have the loan and insurance. Just waiting to sign the papers as we speak. Seems like a super nice car and has been very well taken care of...

ASH302 · 03-31-2010, 12:50 PM

yeap if its the one with black bullitts and kooks and slp exhaust, that is a nice mach, talk to the kid a few times well taken care of. also a lot of video's on youtube with it starring in it, you will be fine, glad you got it, nice mach for sure,

04Mach1Blurr · 03-31-2010, 12:53 PM

Yea im friends with the kid on facebook. Just put up a post last night saying how much he'll miss the AB Mach in his garage. haha I think ur gonna make him cry a bit.

ASH302 · 03-31-2010, 12:56 PM

he seem to take care of it though, very nice and i'm shock by his age seems to be around 20 and took very good care of it, your getting a nice mach and already with a procharger, nice

02gtfromky · 03-31-2010, 12:57 PM

yeah i can tell hes gonna miss it, i cant blame him though.. I cant sit still im so ready to get pick it up..

ASH302 · 03-31-2010, 12:59 PM

the thing bout starting with that mach, you already got a step ahead on perfomance and can be happy where it is at, or build off of it. so you really got lucky on this one for sure, that is one of the best sounding mach's i've heard also. would have loved to done mine like that, but already had my money into mine, so your good there, just take care of it, i'm sure you will and i can just think if it was me, i would have a are time waiting for it, post some pictures when you get a chance, might see if he can burn you a copy of all the pictures and video he has of the car, they are really good video's and pictures of the car.

02gtfromky · 03-31-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 460hpmach1

the thing bout starting with that mach, you already got a step ahead on perfomance and can be happy where it is at, or build off of it. so you really got lucky on this one for sure, that is one of the best sounding mach's i've heard also. would have loved to done mine like that, but already had my money into mine, so your good there, just take care of it, i'm sure you will and i can just think if it was me, i would have a are time waiting for it, post some pictures when you get a chance, might see if he can burn you a copy of all the pictures and video he has of the car, they are really good video's and pictures of the car.

Yea i sure will man. Thanks

ASH302 · 03-31-2010, 01:17 PM

sounds good, get on it for me if you would since i can't enjoy mine right now, got six months in this sand box tell i'm with her again,

gbranton · 03-31-2010, 02:05 PM

If I remember correctly, Louise popped her bottom end at significantly less than one billion horsepower.

Unrealford · 03-31-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

1 Billion HP with Bias tires in back

gbranton · 03-31-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Really? When did this happen?

Ok, here comes the part where you make me feel like an idiot, but I thought you hurt the engine in your car and that was why you were rebuilding it. At least that's the way it seemed when everyone was ragging on you.

Fenixfire · 03-31-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gbranton

Ok, here comes the part where you make me feel like an idiot, but I thought you hurt the engine in your car and that was why you were rebuilding it. At least that's the way it seemed when everyone was ragging on you.

I dont even think Bill remembers what happened it has been so long

gbranton · 03-31-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixfire

I dont even think Bill remembers what happened it has been so long

That's true, he is an old fart.

gbranton · 03-31-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

The INTAKE was "blewed up"......nutting else on the engine wuz hurt.

Well I was partially correct, it's been so long I obviously forgot the details myself.

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you drop a new intake on it and drive it until the new motor was done?

stang03 · 03-31-2010, 04:05 PM

430-450

Fenixfire · 03-31-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

The INTAKE was "blewed up"......nutting else on the engine wuz hurt.
I knows where you stays!

My memory is still better than most........except for names. Never have been good at names.

ASH302 · 03-31-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stang03

430-450

that mach should be fine at where it is at, he could put a bigger pulley on there and bring the hp down alittle, but he is at 10psi. should be fine

03-29-2010, 10:46 PM	#1
02gtfromky Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Danville, ky Posts: 165	Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? Buying a procharged mach and it put down 475rwhp and i have been told anything over 415 on stock internals is like a ticking time bomb. N since the car is going to be my everyday car i wabt it to b safe to drive and not be worried about blowing it up? Thanks for any input __________________ 2002 Gt full bolt ons, built 3650, zex 125

03-29-2010, 10:50 PM	#2
Unrealford Mustang owner since 1984 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,515	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? You will see many post about this.. Basically in a nutshell, keep boost 10psi and its all about a safe tune and not beating the snot outta it over and over, __________________ 2012 Kona Blue Metallic BOSS MOMS Racing... 11.92@115.43 stock besides drag radials http://www.dragzine.com/news/moms-ra...2013-schedule/

03-30-2010, 05:27 AM	#3
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? yea like someone will prob post did you search first, i know i've started a thread bout this and got bash for it, i'm going to be around 450rwhp on my mach, around that and you will be find, that mach depending on how well the tune is on it and also what the boost is setting at. to be honest your prob going to be fine with where it is at now. if it has a p1sc you could always put a bigger size pulley on it to bring the hp down and boost, on d1sc you re kinda limited to how much you can bring it down. another thing you can do is go to power adder area and look threw the procharger sticky and see what numbers most of them guys are at, to be honest that is a normal number i have seen and also seen higher than that. so i say your good to go, but might consider lowering the hp on it, __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-30-2010, 05:30 AM	#4
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? also maybe if you can save up for a new engine, i'm going to be start saving for a aluminator longblock soon, that way i can up my boost and run alot hp, but for say if you wanted to stay in that hp range, you ill know you will have a engine that can handle that hp and not worry bout it blowing, something to think bout for the future. just a thought, don't have to __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-30-2010, 01:11 PM	#5
Fenixfire Its stock....No really! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 4,433	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? See what boost he is running. If you stay out of boost the engine will last forever, but it will be fine at that power level too as long as you dont bounce it off the redline all the time, etc. __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5spd w/ IUP Mods: Lots of new stuff coming.....stay tuned

03-30-2010, 01:47 PM	#6
24kmach My First Mach, Jan. 1969 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 13,070	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? Save your engine and give me the Procharger. __________________ I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. Mach 1 owner since January 1969. First ride in a P51D August 28,2010. Member Based in Kent, Washington, Pacific Cascade Mustang Club is the only original Mustang club in the Puget Sound Area and according to Mustang Club of America, we are the oldest in the nation.

03-30-2010, 03:14 PM	#8
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? is it by chance a AZ blue mach with low low miles? just curious and the guy is a younger kid? at 10psi you will be fine, if everything is tuned right then your good to go. get it __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-31-2010, 12:23 PM	#9
02gtfromky Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Danville, ky Posts: 165	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? Yes it is, im going to pick the car up today or tmrw already have the loan and insurance. Just waiting to sign the papers as we speak. Seems like a super nice car and has been very well taken care of... __________________ 2002 Gt full bolt ons, built 3650, zex 125

03-31-2010, 12:50 PM	#10
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? yeap if its the one with black bullitts and kooks and slp exhaust, that is a nice mach, talk to the kid a few times well taken care of. also a lot of video's on youtube with it starring in it, you will be fine, glad you got it, nice mach for sure, __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-31-2010, 12:53 PM	#11
04Mach1Blurr Machinator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,294	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? Yea im friends with the kid on facebook. Just put up a post last night saying how much he'll miss the AB Mach in his garage. haha I think ur gonna make him cry a bit. __________________ 2004 D.S.G. Mach 1 Mustang I.U.P.(01/22/2004)-04 Cobra Longblock- Posi Ported M122 GT500 Blower - BF 2.93 Upper - 4lb Lower -MGW STS-Bassani cattless X pipe- Borla Stinger Catback-Steeda Bump Steer kit-MM CCs- MM Coilovers 350lb spring- LFP Heat-exchanger- 1inch Shaker Spacer-03 Cobra IRS with FTBR's Full Bushings kit-BF Diff Brace-3:55 gears -T56 Tranzilla- cut 04 coupe rear springs-Viper Remote Start/Alarm system-Ipod Auxilary-SLP LL-Tune coming soon

03-31-2010, 12:56 PM	#12
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? he seem to take care of it though, very nice and i'm shock by his age seems to be around 20 and took very good care of it, your getting a nice mach and already with a procharger, nice __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-31-2010, 12:57 PM	#13
02gtfromky Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Danville, ky Posts: 165	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? yeah i can tell hes gonna miss it, i cant blame him though.. I cant sit still im so ready to get pick it up.. __________________ 2002 Gt full bolt ons, built 3650, zex 125

03-31-2010, 12:59 PM	#14
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? the thing bout starting with that mach, you already got a step ahead on perfomance and can be happy where it is at, or build off of it. so you really got lucky on this one for sure, that is one of the best sounding mach's i've heard also. would have loved to done mine like that, but already had my money into mine, so your good there, just take care of it, i'm sure you will and i can just think if it was me, i would have a are time waiting for it, post some pictures when you get a chance, might see if he can burn you a copy of all the pictures and video he has of the car, they are really good video's and pictures of the car. __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-31-2010, 01:17 PM	#16
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? sounds good, get on it for me if you would since i can't enjoy mine right now, got six months in this sand box tell i'm with her again, __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-31-2010, 02:05 PM	#17
gbranton Speaking Cherry Red Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 3,476	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? If I remember correctly, Louise popped her bottom end at significantly less than one billion horsepower. __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 10/15/03 - 12/23/10 1986 GT with T-tops (black)

03-31-2010, 04:05 PM	#23
stang03 Azure Blue Fan Club Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 1,126	Re: Whats a safe rwhp for machs??? 430-450 __________________ 2007 Mustang GT Performance White UPR Catted X-Pipe SLP LM1 Axleback TOTALED 2004 Azure Blue Mach 5-speed w/ IUP -Procharger P1SC (8psi) - Lincoln Aviator Fuel Pump - Intercooler - Anderson Powerpipe - Lightning 90mm MAF - 42lb. Injectors - A/F, Fuel Pressure,Boost gauges - SLP Catted X - SLP "Loudmouth" Catback - Eibach Springs - Tokico Illuminas - Ford Racing Fr500 Wheels - Toyo Proxes 4 (245/40/18) - Pioneer AVH-P6800DVD 7" DDIN Screen 430RWHP / 400RWTQ

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